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I'm all for this. America has been the world's biggest blackmailer for too long. This will help the world rely on it less and find alternatives. Not going to be a fun time, but I think it's a start to much needed change. Let them deal with their mess however they see fit and hopefully the world will stop relying on it.

So many people here think aid and low/zero tariffs was "generosity" and not simply a trade for influence and power.
"Vote with us this way... Let me build a military base here... Help this guy get elected... Take a closer look at this company's bid..."
Great to see the USA downsizing. The rest of the world ha an opportunity to breathe fresh air and grow. Go USA! as far as possible.
 
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See what Biden made Trump do? Sleepy Joe, that guy.
I guess we have to look for another easy target to bully and pick on. What minority is next to keep middle America rilled up?
Why does your side obsess about race and minorities?
 
I'm skeptical of how serious Apple's efforts have been at setting up factories/supply chains in the US.

Musk is running several factories in the US between Starlink in Washington, Falcon in Hawthorne, Starship production in Texas, vehicle production in Fremont and Austin, battery packs in Nevada...

These span numerous industries where competitors insist that skilled laborers and tooling isn't available. I know lots of people who used to work at HP factories in the US and are now working at customer service desks because manufacturing jobs have largely disappeared from the US. What is Musk doing several times over that Apple can't do?

(I suspect the answer is compensate employees.)
Apple is the poster child for globalisation. Go where there’s lots of suppliers who can do their work cheaply and get them to bid against each other for the lowest price. Repeat.
 
Apple will do what all other companies will do, pass on the costs to it's customers.
They will pass along what they can, but the magnitude of the drop in their stock price relative to the market indicates that the market doesn’t think they can pass along everything.
 
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The largest trading partner of Germany is the USA. So you can see why they have a massive trade surplus. And that is good for Germany, but not for the USA.

In the long term, this is what is best for the country, because with advances in AI and outsourcing jobs to cheap countries (this isn't just manufacturing, it's also office jobs), people are going to struggle to find good jobs in the USA if this keeps up. People just have to accept some short term pain for some long term gain.

And didn't Trump made an exception for semi-conductors? So those manufacturing jobs that MacRumors are so worried about doesn't even get affected that much.
You didn’t address anything I actually said.

You keep repeating that tariffs are good for the U.S. economy with no evidence. Like a mantra.

There is plenty of evidence that tariffs will hurt the U.S. economy, and Americans. The effects of the Smoot-Hawley tariffs act being the clearest example in recent history.

Tariffs have no effect on AI displacing jobs. AI runs in U.S. data centers. Worse, slowing down AI adoption is not a positive. It’s an invitation for other countries to leap frog the U.S. with their own faster AI adoption.

Trump isn’t playing 4D chess. There is no long term benefit for any of this. He has no idea what he is doing.
 
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I'd be richer if I had a dollar for every time I hear a MAGA Republican in our government defend Trump by claiming "America voted for his mandates." Actually, HALF of America voted for Trump and pretty sure no one voted for higher prices when Trump promised to lower prices on Day 1. But his voters seem unable to discern lies from the truth as they voted for him anyways.
Nobody voted for higher prices but they were unable to figure out that his policies would cause us to go into recession. People tried to warn people but nobody listened.
 
Nobody voted for higher prices but they were unable to figure out that his policies would cause us to go into recession. People tried to warn people but nobody listened.
But even the dumbest knew he was a serial bankrupt, a sexual predator, a convicted felon. That he was rude, sneering and generally obnoxious and even his wife hates him. So, pretty stupid all round to have him represent the USA as its number one citizen.
 
phones aside this sucks for regular people with groceries and crap, plus insurance etc.... Repair cost will be higher therefore car insurance will go higher etc.............. screw phones this is not good at all. mid terms can't come fast enough.
 
All this is is investors looking for everything to be cheap to buy and the stocks will go back up. The rigged stock market always does this. When the average person is making too much money on investments, magically some event happens and sinks their gains. The elite swoop in, buy cheap, sell when high, and the cycle begins all over again. Stock market is really no different than gambling in Vegas. The house always wins.
 
At the end of the day a trade war hurts everyone, so the answer is eventually yes. Not immediately, because there will not be increased tariffs on goods coming from Asia to Europe, but long term yes inflation pushes up the price of everything.
Yeah, I’m really thinking if it’s worth testing my luck waiting for the M5 Mac mini in October or November, or if I should play safe and get an M4 mini now, even if that means losing one extra year of macOS support.
 
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Manipulation. Trump is counting things like VAT in that number, even though VAT is also put on local production so has nothing to do with import tariffs.
The Trump Admin is using the trade deficit as well as VAT and other bad business practices (like the EU trying to fine Apple billions) to calculate the amount of tariffs.
 
By the FEC’s numbers the President received 49.8% of the popular vote, which means that 50.2% wanted anyone but him.
Incorrect- those numbers take into account the ~2% of people who voted for other candidates, neither Trump nor Harris. Therefore, it's more correct to say that those 2% wanted anyone but Trump OR Harris. Fixed that for you ;)
 
All this is is investors looking for everything to be cheap to buy and the stocks will go back up. The rigged stock market always does this. When the average person is making too much money on investments, magically some event happens and sinks their gains. The elite swoop in, buy cheap, sell when high, and the cycle begins all over again. Stock market is really no different than gambling in Vegas. The house always wins.

Perfect summation. I'd add that this is also a plan to purposefully tamp the overall prosperity in the country down and box us all in a walled garden as Americans. Pit us in an "us vs them" narrative and keep everyone thirsty to continue hoping that things flip and America finally becomes "great again." Meanwhile rich oligarch cronies become richer and we become more and more downtrodden like Russia. Just sucks because half of us didn't vote for this and most of us work hard and do what we got to do to stash away some savings for the future, which is looking bleaker everyday this unserious circus is in charge of the country.
 
Yeah it’s just a shocking coincidence he picked key architects behind it for his cabinet and that 43% of Project 2025’s goals are already complete.
Which key architects? There is some overlap, I do acknowledge that. Still, it's better than letting 20 million more illegal immigrants into the country and giving them resources meant for American citizens and giving them pathways to vote.
 
Which key architects? There is some overlap, I do acknowledge that. Still, it's better than letting 20 million more illegal immigrants into the country and giving them resources meant for American citizens and giving them pathways to vote.

 
Well those who voted for him and support him are getting exactly what they voted for.
This is exactly right. Trump voters voted exactly for this and did it knowing an iPhone might see price increases. I've been telling people since 2016 if you want to know what Trump is doing, read Art of the Deal. Whether you like it or agree with it or not, he told you exactly what he was going to do and now he's doing it.
 
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I'm skeptical of how serious Apple's efforts have been at setting up factories/supply chains in the US.

Musk is running several factories in the US between Starlink in Washington, Falcon in Hawthorne, Starship production in Texas, vehicle production in Fremont and Austin, battery packs in Nevada...
Most of the parts for the Starlink terminals come from Taiwan, China and Vietnam. Tesla's biggest car factory is in China, and even Teslas assembled and sold in the US have ~60% parts content from Mexico and China. Tesla also sources the majority of its batteries from LG (South Korea) and CATL (China) these days.
These span numerous industries where competitors insist that skilled laborers and tooling isn't available. I know lots of people who used to work at HP factories in the US and are now working at customer service desks because manufacturing jobs have largely disappeared from the US. What is Musk doing several times over that Apple can't do?
Last I checked the US still has aerospace and car manufacturing other than SpaceX and Tesla, and Musk isn't making any large scale consumer electronics.
 
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I am going to start this thread so the post don’t get political:
I don’t have any will to upgrade new iPhones because it’s the same every year
It's only the same phone, the software changes and if you want those "security updates" you'll be getting a new iPhone.
 
Depends on their situation , some might be a lot, some very little. Hence my comments on retiree diversification.

You know what HAS impacted everyone? Massive inflation for the last 3 years. Home prices up 30-80%, etc, etc , etc.
I would love to see your sources stating that home prices have gone up 30-80% in the past three years. That simply does not comport with reality. I'm sure there are certain markets that have - for many reasons - seen outsized inflation. There always are, and they tend to be unique to those markets. Just like there are always markets that show little to no inflation. Nationwide housing inflation was 4.2% year over year in February, a decrease over the same numbers since 2021. Housing inflation peaked at around 8% two years ago and it has been cooling since.

And of course with the just-announced tariffs sparking this stock market turmoil, experts are saying that inflation is only going to get worse.

So inflation has been rocky and looks like it will be getting worse. And if unemployment surges (gov't firings have obviously taken off, and private corporations such as car manufacturers have already announced layoffs), then we'll have stagflation. A word we're going to see a lot more of.
 
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