Apple Stock Sell-Off Continues After China Unveils Matching Tariffs

[Executor]

The American economy came out the covid pandemic as the strongest in the world. It took Trump a mere 3 months to turn it around. Hopefully congress will act and reign it this stupidity....but I doubt it.

 

[unobtainium]

A dollar amount was calculated based on the other country's tariffs and we implemented tariffs equal to the amount we pay the other country in tariffs (reciprocal tariffs).

The tariffs have to be placed on the other countries major exports in order to meet the dollar amount (which is why bananas and coffee are targeted).

When the other country eliminates the tariffs placed on U.S. goods, the U.S. will also end the tariffs.

If you’re even a little bit informed, you know that’s not how the “reciprocal tariffs” were calculated. Please try harder.

 

[ellsworth]

The perfect opportunity to purchase Apple stock at a discounted price. It will eventually head back up to it's all time 52-week high of $260 a pop.

 

[It’s always something]

Lately, all these events have left me deeply anxious and frustrated with the United States—and especially with Trump. I have to say, MR will never be a place for political posts, and of course, this isn't one either, even though I'm Taiwanese.

I've read plenty of Western perspectives—mostly from friends in the US and Europe. I'm still trying to unpack how Japan and South Korea are reacting, but as someone who understands China extremely well from a Taiwanese standpoint, I can say with confidence: China will go all in against the U.S. And strangely enough, despite the huge ideological divide across the Taiwan Strait, I’d argue that Taiwanese and Chinese people can probably sit down and talk more easily than many of you imagine. Whether it's cultural roots, ethnicity, cross-strait exchanges, intermarriage—these ties run much deeper than most Westerners would assume. Just speaking from personal experience, several of my colleagues are married to people from China—I even know their families.

From my perspective as a Taiwanese citizen, this new round of U.S. tariffs has completely shattered my trust—not just in Trump (as I initially wanted to say), but in America. Why? Because roughly half of Americans actively support Trump, and the other half seem unable to stop him. So I can only say: I’ve lost trust in America.

I still remember when Trump restricted Ukraine’s use of F-16s—that was when I saw Europe start canceling F-35 orders. I think most of you already understand the implication.

But even that didn’t fully shake my belief in the idea of “Make America Great Again.” What finally did it? Trump’s decision to slap a 34% tariff on Taiwan. That number—it’s disappointing. Is that how you treat a friend? The answer is pretty clear now.

As long as China remains a constant presence, Taiwan will always be America’s punching bag—a convenient target for exploitation. For decades, America has sold us overpriced, downgraded military equipment. We’ve paid billions in protection money, and accepted U.S. meat products—ones even Australians and Europeans refuse to eat. And what did we get in return? No FTA.
Now it’s even worse—outright blackmail. TSMC was pressured to build fabs, invest billions, and basically rescue Intel (which was wrecked by Wall Street).
And what did Taiwan get back?
TSMC stock crashing. The entire Taiwan market dropping. A 34% tariff.

Recently, I saw that China, Japan, and South Korea have sat down to discuss a regional economic bloc. This is, to my knowledge, unprecedented. Whether they're just putting on a show or genuinely aiming to reshape the region—we don’t yet know. But one thing is certain: this is extremely bad news for the United States.

The so-called "Indo-Pacific defense strategy" is falling apart. And what was the value of that strategy anyway? Democracy? Freedom? Human rights?
Those Reagan-era slogans have all been thoroughly dismantled in just a few weeks.
So I ask—do Taiwanese people really need to keep buying into these “values”?

If China no longer exists as a geopolitical constant for Taiwan, then Trump’s bullying collapses immediately.
And then I remember seeing Trump’s Treasury Secretary warning the world not to retaliate—calling this the “tipping point,” urging people to “wait and see,” insisting “it won’t get worse.”

Honestly? I’ve never seen a bureaucrat act like that.
It felt like watching a parody… like kids playing house. Unreal.

Of course, this isn’t a political post. That would never happen on MR.
These are just hallucinations, really—random fragments of thought.
And if these hallucinations have caused any discomfort to the fine gentlemen here,
then perhaps it’s only because… the hallucination was too vivid.
My apologies.

Your post is helpful and informative. Thanks.

 

[Student of Life]

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tr...-global-selloff-investors-fear-us-2025-04-04/

5 Trillion dollars lost thus far thanks to the tariffs. All self inflicted, all preventable. It’s safe to say many people lost fortunes, life savings, retirement funds. This wont end well…

 

[johnsawyercjs]

This comment from the cult that wants men in women's sports.

Congratulations on the most off-topic reply yet.

 

[turbineseaplane]

The perfect opportunity to purchase Apple stock at a discounted price. It will eventually head back up to it's all time 52-week high of $260 a pop.

Did you buy today?

You sure we're at bottom?
(or even close)

 

[artifex]

Tim Apple is bringing back OSX 10.5 Leopard

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it definitely looks hungry for some faces.

 

[marzfreerider]

This is just stock market manipulation at the moment. Donald and the other rich buddies will be buying up stocks at the low prices. Get them at bottom dollar then announce the tariffs are reduced or off and then watch the stocks rise, giving them even more money.

 

[Bryan Bowler]

Trump is an idiot

Along with everyone in his administration.

The moderation team said the above statements are completely fine and okay, so here’s my reply: Biden and his entire administration team was a bunch of idiots!

Can’t believe MacRumors is letting itself succumb to the political madness, but I guess it’s game on.

 

[Manzanito]

The perfect opportunity to purchase Apple stock at a discounted price. It will eventually head back up to it's all time 52-week high of $260 a pop.

The perfect time to sell before it drops even more. The orange clown has 3,75 more years in office.

 

[Expos of 1969]

Boycott who?

The companies which you feel are taking advantage of you vis a vis the tariffs as you stated in your post. For those of us outside the US, the boycotting of US companies, products and the country itself is already well underway and is gaining traction hour by hour.

 

[citysnaps]

Apple may choose to not do anything with respect to prices in the near-term until current stock in the USA has dwindled and, perhaps by then, there will be a clearer picture as to when the import tariffs will be lifted or reduced.

The problem is Apple doesn't keep that much inventory. It's a finely tuned machine where Apple keeps a minimum of products to match current near-term customer demands.

 

[laptech]

The problem Trump has is that with regards to trade he wants the US to be treated fairly which he feels the US is not. How can he expect other countries to treat the US fairly when it's own companies try to screw over the countries they reside in. Look at how many complaints US companies get from other countries due to how US companies operate in their country. Apple and Amazon are the most common to get complaints, both using their power to get what they want. There was also the case of when the UK left the EU (Brexit) and was looking to create new trading partners, there was one in the works with the US (it had a specific name I cant remember what it was). It fell through because the US demanded access to the UK's NHS so it could introduce the US system of medical insurance. The UK said no, the NHS is off limits thus the deal was off.

Over the years the US has not played fair with other countries so why should they treat the US fairly now. All that Trump is doing is causing a trade war with the rest of the world and companies such as Apple are seeing the harsh result of that by having billions of $$$ wiped off it's value in the stock market.

There will come a point where Tim Cook will realise he will not be able to increase product prices to recover what they have lost because customers will just refuse to buy. It probably wont be the retaliation of tariffs from other countries that will stop Trump, it will most probably be US companies due to them losing billions of $$$ in their value. Yes the stock markets will eventually stabilise but if other countries keep hitting the US with retaliatory tariffs it could cause US companies to lose more and more of their value in the stock market. Question will be, how long would US companies be prepared to accept this?

 

[0049190]

The companies which you feel are taking advantage of you vis a vis the tariffs as you stated in your post. For those of us outside the US, the boycotting of US companies, products and the country itself is already well underway and is gaining traction hour by hour.

Seems a bit unfair to boycott a whole nation for the actions of one man. It would be better to target companies directly associated with Trump such as Tesla but not the whole country. I’m not going to boycott Apple products for example.

 

[Expos of 1969]

Seems a bit unfair to boycott a whole nation for the actions of one man. It would be better to target companies directly associated with Trump such as Tesla but not the whole country. I’m not going to boycott Apple products for example.

Nope. When the Head of State of a country makes ridiculous statements and threats like he has to Canada (becoming the 51st state) and to Denmark (we need Greenland and will take it), his whole country will face the consequences.
This anger and disgust felt by those outside the US started prior to the tariffs imposed this week.

 

[robvalentine]

Seems a bit unfair to boycott a whole nation for the actions of one man. It would be better to target companies directly associated with Trump such as Tesla but not the whole country. I’m not going to boycott Apple products for example.

The nation (notnall to be fair) voted for Putin's lackey so I'm cutting back on as much American products as I can (not easy)

 

[arkitect]

The nation (notnall to be fair) voted for Putin's lackey so I'm cutting back on as much American products as I can (not easy)

Actually, it's easier than you think. 🙂
There are options and alternatives.

Unless you specifically mean Apple products then sure, you're SOL.

 

[decafjava]

The nation (notnall to be fair) voted for Putin's lackey so I'm cutting back on as much American products as I can (not easy)

Trump is an idiot but stop with this "Putin puppet" nonsense, Russia will not abandon BRICS or especially China. Trump has not touched sanctions against Russia, wants to enrage commercial adversaries like China and allies like the EU and Canada. If, god forbid, Trump attacks Iran we will see how much of a "lackey" he is. Anyway, the US, UK and most of the West deserved sanctions for unquestioned support of Israel since October 2023.

I admit it's almost impossible to boycott US tech, my work uses Office 265 amd I would not be able to use Libreoffice or say Linux as we communicate with Outlook and Teams for example.

 

[Burger Thing]

I am not so concerned (anymore) about the economical outcomes from this tariffs. I have concluded (and made peace with myself) that with this incompetent idiot at the helm (hello 7 or so bankruptcies) the world is going to a recession - if not depression. Just like in the 1930s after the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act. To all the Trump supporters: Google up the effects of tariffs in human history.

What I am more concerned is, what he will come up - probably something even more drastic - to deflect from the economical results of the tariffs and his obvious incompetence. And he won't be able to blame Biden or Hillary anymore. I am afraid he might even start a war and the Trump supporters, who already failed do see through his obvious idiocy, will march right along him. It's a cult after all already.

I am so so sorry to see what happened to America.

And no, your tariffs will not have the effect that American companies will for example sell more cars outside the US. No one wants your fuel guzzling oversized monsters. And the other clown from South Africa just destroyed the only car brand which head a head start in its segment. Not anymore.

 

[Burger Thing]

Lately, all these events have left me deeply anxious and frustrated with the United States—and especially with Trump. I have to say, MR will never be a place for political posts, and of course, this isn't one either, even though I'm Taiwanese.

I've read plenty of Western perspectives—mostly from friends in the US and Europe. I'm still trying to unpack how Japan and South Korea are reacting, but as someone who understands China extremely well from a Taiwanese standpoint, I can say with confidence: China will go all in against the U.S. And strangely enough, despite the huge ideological divide across the Taiwan Strait, I’d argue that Taiwanese and Chinese people can probably sit down and talk more easily than many of you imagine. Whether it's cultural roots, ethnicity, cross-strait exchanges, intermarriage—these ties run much deeper than most Westerners would assume. Just speaking from personal experience, several of my colleagues are married to people from China—I even know their families.

From my perspective as a Taiwanese citizen, this new round of U.S. tariffs has completely shattered my trust—not just in Trump (as I initially wanted to say), but in America. Why? Because roughly half of Americans actively support Trump, and the other half seem unable to stop him. So I can only say: I’ve lost trust in America.

I still remember when Trump restricted Ukraine’s use of F-16s—that was when I saw Europe start canceling F-35 orders. I think most of you already understand the implication.

But even that didn’t fully shake my belief in the idea of “Make America Great Again.” What finally did it? Trump’s decision to slap a 34% tariff on Taiwan. That number—it’s disappointing. Is that how you treat a friend? The answer is pretty clear now.

As long as China remains a constant presence, Taiwan will always be America’s punching bag—a convenient target for exploitation. For decades, America has sold us overpriced, downgraded military equipment. We’ve paid billions in protection money, and accepted U.S. meat products—ones even Australians and Europeans refuse to eat. And what did we get in return? No FTA.
Now it’s even worse—outright blackmail. TSMC was pressured to build fabs, invest billions, and basically rescue Intel (which was wrecked by Wall Street).
And what did Taiwan get back?
TSMC stock crashing. The entire Taiwan market dropping. A 34% tariff.

Recently, I saw that China, Japan, and South Korea have sat down to discuss a regional economic bloc. This is, to my knowledge, unprecedented. Whether they're just putting on a show or genuinely aiming to reshape the region—we don’t yet know. But one thing is certain: this is extremely bad news for the United States.

The so-called "Indo-Pacific defense strategy" is falling apart. And what was the value of that strategy anyway? Democracy? Freedom? Human rights?
Those Reagan-era slogans have all been thoroughly dismantled in just a few weeks.
So I ask—do Taiwanese people really need to keep buying into these “values”?

If China no longer exists as a geopolitical constant for Taiwan, then Trump’s bullying collapses immediately.
And then I remember seeing Trump’s Treasury Secretary warning the world not to retaliate—calling this the “tipping point,” urging people to “wait and see,” insisting “it won’t get worse.”

Honestly? I’ve never seen a bureaucrat act like that.
It felt like watching a parody… like kids playing house. Unreal.

Of course, this isn’t a political post. That would never happen on MR.
These are just hallucinations, really—random fragments of thought.
And if these hallucinations have caused any discomfort to the fine gentlemen here,
then perhaps it’s only because… the hallucination was too vivid.
My apologies.

As a European living in Hong Kong (after having lived Asia for almost 25 years, including China) and also having lots of Taiwanese friends: I totally agree with everything you wrote.

I would go even as far amd say: the Americans probably haven't grasped the fact yet, that many countries and their leaders will also have lost any respect of USA (especially Russia with having most of the Republicans whistling to their tune).

Idiots and kids like educational challenged persons (former Fox hosts, etc) are running the government of one of the former world's most powerful countries. After being elected!

And a clown wearing a cheesehead is heavily involved in their decisions. Unbelievable.

 

[turbineseaplane]

I would go even as far amd say: the Americans probably haven't grasped the fact yet, that many countries and their leaders will also have lost any respect of USA (especially Russia with having most of the Republicans whistling to their tune).

The sad thing here in America is that we have a large chunk of the population that is so unworldly and poorly read that they simply can't grasp anything other than "America is the best country in the world".

The jingoism here is off the charts in many parts of the the country and population.

The true "freedom" in America, is the freedom to go totally broke with very little, if any, social safety net.

Get really sick?
Go broke.

Need infrastructure to get around and live and work?
Provide your own very expensive car travel.

On... down... the ... line.
America has been coasting on "vibes" and folks telling themselves "we are the best", with very little data to support that view (especially if you're just a normal lower or middle class worker bee).

It's a GREAT place to be millionaire or beyond!

 

[Expos of 1969]

The sad thing here in America is that we have a large chunk of the population that is so unworldly and poorly read that they simply can't grasp anything other than "America is the best country in the world".

The jingoism here is off the charts in many parts of the the country and population.

The true "freedom" in America, is the freedom to go totally broke with very little, if any, social safety net.

Get really sick?
Go broke.

Need infrastructure to get around and live and work?
Provide your own very expensive car travel.

On... down... the ... line.
America has been coasting on "vibes" and folks telling themselves "we are the best", with very little data to support that view (especially if you're just a normal lower or middle class worker bee).

It's a GREAT place to be millionaire or beyond!

It must be extremely frustrating for those of you who fall into the worldly and well read segment of the population. And as someone else eloquently articulated, these issues have been present long before Trump arrived.

 

[Expos of 1969]

As a European living in Hong Kong (after having lived Asia for almost 25 years, including China) and also having lots of Taiwanese friends: I totally agree with everything you wrote.

I would go even as far amd say: the Americans probably haven't grasped the fact yet, that many countries and their leaders will also have lost any respect of USA (especially Russia with having most of the Republicans whistling to their tune).

Idiots and kids like educational challenged persons (former Fox hosts, etc) are running the government of one of the former world's most powerful countries. After being elected!

And a clown wearing a cheesehead is heavily involved in their decisions. Unbelievable.

Speaking of idiots .... Do you find that every once in a while you see a face that immediately gives off strong vibes of "I am quite stupid and my face should be slapped"? I had not seen any for a while but last week I saw two in the space of a couple of minutes on television: Pete Hegseth and Mike Waltz. Go on, have a look.

 

[Burger Thing]

Speaking of idiots .... Do you find that every once in a while you see a face that immediately gives off strong vibes of "I am quite stupid and my face should be slapped"? I had not seen any for a while but last week I saw two in the space of a couple of minutes on television: Pete Hegseth and Mike Waltz. Go on, have a look.

Yes. But you are kind with just slaps. Ronald Reagan would have probably shot them personally.

Unbelievable what happened to the once grand party of the US.