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The MAGA People are fine with Trump being a moral degenerate, they are fine with his bullying the world etc…however once their little retirement nest eggs start rapidly dropping they will turn on him in a second. This might do it.
A large number of Americans have no retirement savings, let alone enough cash to handle an emergency.
 
Everything will be priced higher. No pay increases for the masses. Health care is being decimated.

We will have our own purge of the population as folks loose access to to both food and health care. Seniors and the economically challenged populations numbers will decrease probably in the fall as cold weather hits the USA.

I watched an oligarch youth is Russia speeding down the road that was for pedestrians in a sports car. No issue if he hits and kills a few citizens.

With less than 500 billionaires, there will not be many economic slaves needed to clean their homes.

The largest percentage of the population does not have cash on hand for even a minor emergency.

What possibly go wrong?

Just a heads up, decimated means ~10% is destroyed, or "taken as a tenth". Root decimus, meaning 10th.

As for everything else, I agree. Feeling thankful that the wife and I fully own our home and land, and have no debt. Most don't fare as well.
 
Let me clarify the some things on Trump tariffs. I am not his supporter:

1. Number one reason for these tariffs is budget deficit, rather than trade deficit. Tariffs are taxes on imported goods so they are paid by US consumers but the US government gets tariff revenue.
2, tariffs may not increase US prices that much because of the theory of large world economy. Inflation will be up but less than expected
3, Trump’s treasury wants oil prices down and the budget deficit go down. Actually he is closing to both goals
4, US exports will also decrease
 
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We have not won a war sense WWII, Ukraine holding off one of the most powerful military, Israel still has not won the Gaza war, and a little country like North Korea would make our life miserable. Sum it up, very effective inexpensive powerful military weapons available worldwide because of technology. The poorest country, ideologies can now afford advanced military weapons technology. Back to old school thinking.

We haven't fought a war since WWII, we've had police actions. The gulf 'war', desert storm, Iraq, Grenada, Vietnam, Korean 'war' were all police actions.
 
No one's coming to save us. The "sane people in the administration" are not in the administration this time. Dr. Oz is running Medicaid. A Fox News weekend host runs the entire military. An anti-vaxxer is running HHS.

There are no sane people in this administration.

Holy **** Dr Oz is running medicaid. I had to look that up. It sounds made up.
 
Everything will be priced higher.

Consumer prices can only go up so high before consumers will stop buying or switch to something else.

Countries are now negotiating for a mutual end to the tariffs so who actually thinks that in a couple of months the tariffs will still be there.

I wonder how low Apple stock goes before investors jump in and buy it back to its previous level. Somebody is going to make a lot of money :).
 
Apple may choose to not do anything with respect to prices in the near-term until current stock in the USA has dwindled and, perhaps by then, there will be a clearer picture as to when the import tariffs will be lifted or reduced.

If you want to by what Trump has said, he stated this morning that they are permanent.

It's going to be a little rough before things get better. But they will be better than ever once we get rolling again. It's time to stop America from getting ripped off.

..the government is now ripping of the US populace with a giant tax hike. Great switcharoo.

The world will learn do without the US, and supply chain and trade will just route around and avoid the US altogether. We're not as essential as the president thinks we are.
 
A dollar amount was calculated based on the other country's tariffs and we implemented tariffs equal to the amount we pay the other country in tariffs (reciprocal tariffs).

The tariffs have to be placed on the other countries major exports in order to meet the dollar amount (which is why bananas and coffee are targeted).

When the other country eliminates the tariffs placed on U.S. goods, the U.S. will also end the tariffs.
That is ABSOLUTELY false.

What they did was place a tariff on a country equal to half of the trade decifit they run with us. Here's a pathetic example of how stupid it all is. A trade deficit, despite what Trump believes, is not a tax or a tariff. It is just a the difference between what we export and import from a country.

Lesotho is a landlocked country in southern Africa. It was hit a 50% tariff yesterday. Our trade deficit with them is about $237 million dollars. We buy high value items- gold, diamonds, etc from them. They export mostly textiles to the United States. Why don't the roughly 2.25 million citizens of Lesotho buy more from us? Well, there isn't much we make that they need and the average income there for a textile worker is about $100 a month. Yes, A MONTH.

So now the price of those exports they have to the US will go up by 50%. What will happen to their textile industry? Experts say it will probably die as we were their biggest customer. The main customers for that industry here in the US- Levis and Calvin Klein. The textile industry there is 90% of their manufacturing. Trump's insanity will kill that small, already poverty stricken nation.

How can anyone think that a country with just 2.25 million people, who make less $1000 a year on average, could possibly spend over 10% of all they earn on American made products so there is no trade deficit. It is beyond all sane and rational thought.
 
I'm hoping Trump reverses himself quickly. None one will question it. Hopefully, there are enough sane people in the administration to humor him enough to make it happen. What worries me most is that if some of these tariffs go into effect, companies will see people get used to the higher prices and not lower prices if/when the tariffs are removed.
It doesn't matter of they're reversed. Politics and business are about relationships. Trump has shattered the reputation of America on the worldwide stage. Even if tariffs are eventually reversed, irreversible economic damage will be done, and no one will trust America like they did before.
 
I'm hoping Trump reverses himself quickly. None one will question it. Hopefully, there are enough sane people in the administration to humor him enough to make it happen. What worries me most is that if some of these tariffs go into effect, companies will see people get used to the higher prices and not lower prices if/when the tariffs are removed.
There are no sane people left, they’re long gone.
 
That is ABSOLUTELY false.

What they did was place a tariff on a country equal to half of the trade decifit they run with us. Here's a pathetic example of how stupid it all is. A trade deficit, despite what Trump believes, is not a tax or a tariff. It is just a the difference between what we export and import from a country.

Lesotho is a landlocked country in southern Africa. It was hit a 50% tariff yesterday. Our trade deficit with them is about $237 million dollars. We buy high value items- gold, diamonds, etc from them. They export mostly textiles to the United States. Why don't the roughly 2.25 million citizens of Lesotho buy more from us? Well, there isn't much we make that they need and the average income there for a textile worker is about $100 a month. Yes, A MONTH.

So now the price of those exports they have to the US will go up by 50%. What will happen to their textile industry? Experts say it will probably die as we were their biggest customer. The main customers for that industry here in the US- Levis and Calvin Klein. The textile industry there is 90% of their manufacturing. Trump's insanity will kill that small, already poverty stricken nation.

How can anyone think that a country with just 2.25 million people, who make less $1000 a year on average, could possibly spend over 10% of all they earn on American made products so there is no trade deficit. It is beyond all sane and rational thought.
Don’t forget other countries also are hit by tariffs. Meaning that even after tariffs Lesotho will sell to US cause everyone else also got more expensive
 
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