Oh, how I just love it when other members are so upset when Apple’s success continues to rise. There’s a reason this company is continuing to grow and they killed it this past year with their product expansion. Shareholders must be pleased.
Stop this nonsense. Cook has created $1T. Jobs was a genius, but Cook has made seemingly all the right moves with a little innovation of his own.Jobs set him up. Apple coasts mostly on the efforts of a dead genius. For all the money they have, their software quality has never been worse and the Mac has never had a decade of neglect like this.
The 2022 iPhone must come with 6G and a trifold display or Apple is doomed. Hehe.Tim Crook must go! That’s how this works, right?
Anyway the stock will take a nose dive after the 5G iPhone comes out and sell side analysts start panicking about iPhone sales in 2022 or whatever.
In my own opinion, if it were that easy to get to $1T, Apple would be lost in the dust as "coasting would be the way to go". For at least today, Apple is ahead of Microsoft by 100B.Stop this nonsense. Cook has created $1T. Jon’s was a genius, but Cook has made seemingly all the right moves with a little innovation of his own.
You're completely over-simplifying business and ignoring Tim Cook’s incredible stewardship of Apple.
There is no “coasting” your way to $1T in incremental value. Apple sells so much more hardware, more services, and has created the wearables segment. Cook gets credit for a lot of this.
I have been very critical of Cook but you are correct. What he has done IS impressive. I still don't care for certain things he does but numbers-wise he's done goodNo one said it is. Jobs was a genius, but Cook is COMPLETELY under-appreciated. That's the point.
Jobs brought Apple to roughly $300B, not $500B just FYI.
Stop this nonsense. Cook has created $1T. Jon’s was a genius, but Cook has made seemingly all the right moves with a little innovation of his own.
You're completely over-simplifying business and ignoring Tim Cook’s incredible stewardship of Apple.
There is no “coasting” your way to $1T in incremental value. Apple sells so much more hardware, more services, and has created the wearables segment. Cook gets credit for a lot of this.
I have been very critical of Cook but you are correct. What he has done IS impressive. I still don't care for certain things he does but numbers-wise he's done goodNo one said it is. Jobs was a genius, but Cook is COMPLETELY under-appreciated. That's the point.
Jobs brought Apple to roughly $300B, not $500B just FYI.
What everyone else forgets is that Cook was Jobs' left hand man way back in 98. Ive was crucial to breakthrough design but without Cook's supply chain expertise, iPad would've started at $1,000 and not $500.No one said it is. Jobs was a genius, but Cook is COMPLETELY under-appreciated. That's the point.
Jobs brought Apple to roughly $300B, not $500B just FYI.
I still see plenty of room for growth. $375 is very possible in the next 18 months depending on how they do with services and wearables.
Hey everyone let’s ride Tim apples nutz because he made another ton of dough for himself.
Without doing it this way I would have half the shares at a average cost of $218
Exactly. Cook is the best supply chain executive in the world.What everyone else forgets is that Cook was Jobs' left hand man way back in 98. Ive was crucial to breakthrough design but without Cook's supply chain expertise, iPad would've started at $1,000 and not $500.
Everything, including leverage, works when stocks go up...particularly fast like Apple.I bought the original $20,000 here and there and had a cost average of $218. The rest I bought on margins getting my cost average down around 180-ish. With out leverage I would have had less than half the shares with a much higher cost average. If I paid the leverage off now The half I have paid for would be pretty much for free.
I don't understand what you mean by forced stop loss. You must be willing to pay the margins. I treated my margins like a mortgage and add money. If you don't keep adding money you should sell sooner than I am doing now. It is a good way to swoop up stocks if you are pretty certain they are trading low. As long as you have the money to add quickly to defend or are selling as a simple trade.
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I use it only temporarily and stop buying more until I have it under control. Right now the entire market could dip 40% in a single day and it wouldn't matter. When the market is high like it is now I take the opportunity to pay for the stocks I am renting. By doing it that way I also save the 3.9% for the margin loans so it is an easy investment to keep doing and I feel satisfied that I am at least getting more paying the margin than I would on a dividend or bond or whatever.
I appreciate the advice but for $20,000 of my own money, I now control around $65,000 of AAPL and owe around $10,000 on the balance. Since the margin rate is 3.9% I am paying around 2% to hold the entire lot.
Figures are an example but it is something like that am I missing something about how to use margins?
Im fine with being critical, but it needs to be with respect and recognition for what he’s accomplished. It’s freaking impressive.I have been very critical of Cook but you are correct. What he has done IS impressive. I still don't care for certain things he does but numbers-wise he's done good
It’s better than decent. Look at the 10 year chart. Few companies have done better and its more impressive due to Apple’s size. Moving the needle is hard.In 2017 and 2018, I actually thought Tim Cook and Apple were coasting and there really wasn't anything in the pipeline. I was proven wrong. The AppleWatch and the AirPods have been quite successful and I expect the new Mac Pro, which I consider the pinnacle of desktop computer engineering, will also be very successful for content production in the entertainment industry. Maybe things just take time to come to fruition but I believe Apple is doing the things that are necessary to build good products. Apple's overall value is really something I didn't expect, even as a shareholder. Maybe another CEO could have done better or maybe worse, but I think Tim Cook has done a decent job as Apple's CEO. I have no complaints.
Well said. Impossible to time the market. And difficult to swallow buying a stock at $300 when it was just $142 about a year ago. Difficult because my back hurts from kicking myself.Markets are experiencing a good amount of irrational exuberance.
Hard part (most say impossible) is figuring out when the exuberance ends.
They aren't called business cycles for no reason.
Yes, but even he didn’t buy any when it went down to $142 a year ago. Granted, he already had over 40M shares...Absolutely amazing. Buffet made another great call.
My Edward Jones advisor in early 2007 said the excitement over the iPhone was priced into the stock price at the time ($90, pre split). Thankfully, I didn’t listen to him.Hahaha my arrogant Uncle called me reckless for not selling in 2007. I should send him this article.
Great advice. I never have, but have ran it through in my head, especially when stocks are depressed.I think you listen to me sometimes and I would advise against using leverage, particularly since you're not a professional trader. Things seem easy when the market is with you. Beware of leverage. It will destroy you.
Sarcasm, right?
It must be Lol.
Stop this nonsense. Cook has created $1T. Jobs was a genius, but Cook has made seemingly all the right moves with a little innovation of his own.
You're completely over-simplifying business and ignoring Tim Cook’s incredible stewardship of Apple.
There is no “coasting” your way to $1T in incremental value. Apple sells so much more hardware, more services, and has created the wearables segment. Cook gets credit for a lot of this.
Good for him but ... as a customer, who exactly cares?Tim Cook may be in the running for best CEO of all time. Why?
For you haters, Tim Cook has now added $1,000,000,000,000 (1 Trillion dollars) in shareholder value since taking over for Steve Jobs, more than any CEO in history.
This has been absolutely phenomenal to watch come to fruition. Apple's earnings prowess has been disrespected and misunderstood for so long. We are starting to see Apple's real value come through.
Congratulations to Apple and to all the shareholders.