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i've had my iphone reboot on me all the time before i jailbroke it

That's fine, if that's true then it is fair if the image/perception of the iphone worsens. I'm not saying jail broken iphones crash all the time. It's just hypothetical....
 
Imagine if you invented the iphone, and wanted to sell it to the world. Then people start jail breaking and running things you don't approve on it which in turn hinders the speed of the phone or makes it crash etc. and then everyone starts jail breaking and people looking to buy an iphone see that its slow and crashes because they've seen jail broken phones, and then the iphone's image gets worse and worse and people stop buying it.

Except more the opposite happened. People jailbroke the phone and enjoyed more apps and freedom to customize. Others went further and unlocked the phone to be able to use a primary GSM feature: any SIM.

Even the most hardcode Apple-is-always-right fans will still point to jailbreaking as an option when someone else brings up the freedom available on other mobile OSs.

Whether or not someone agrees with jail breaking you must see apples point of view on not wanting unapproved applications running on the phone...

Their point of view is apparently at least partly about money.

When the first reports of jailbreaking appeared, Jobs laughed about it in an interview I saw. You could tell that he was even a bit proud that developers were taking an interest in the iPhone.

A few months later, that all changed when Apple estimated in a quarterly earnings call that almost 20% of iPhone sold so far had been unlocked. Not just jailbroken, but unlocked. This meant a loss in monthly royalties.
 
I'll be very surprised if the SIMs in the demo phones connect to any carrier. They'll be set up to allow activation and wifi only.

Don't know how it is now as I wasn't in a store for a while, but about a year ago in the Fifth Ave store, the iPhones were activated and on AT&T. Anyone who wanted to could go in and make free phone calls to wherever (maybe international was blocked, don't know).
 
New video on Engadget of a guy using his Nexus One wifi hotspot as Internet connection to jailbreak iPad in Best Buy when they had jailbreakme.com blocked on their wifi.
 
New video on Engadget of a guy using his Nexus One wifi hotspot as Internet connection to jailbreak iPad in Best Buy when they had jailbreakme.com blocked on their wifi.

And he's an idiot too. Apple may not remove the "user experience" from its stores. But Best Buy would in a heart beat. They don't (at least in NYC) don't even have real phones on display. They have fakes.

If people keep pulling this crap on demo models - they'll change those out to fakes as well to avoid the hassles.

It's just stupid. And what's the big deal. Whoopdedooooo I was able to type in jailbreakme.com and slide my finger.

Ooooooooh impressive. Stupid.
 
A few months later, that all changed when Apple estimated in a quarterly earnings call that almost 20% of iPhone sold so far had been unlocked. Not just jailbroken, but unlocked. This meant a loss in monthly royalties.

Not to mention their 30% cut from all App Stores sales.
 
Their point of view is apparently at least partly about money.

When the first reports of jailbreaking appeared, Jobs laughed about it in an interview I saw. You could tell that he was even a bit proud that developers were taking an interest in the iPhone.

A few months later, that all changed when Apple estimated in a quarterly earnings call that almost 20% of iPhone sold so far had been unlocked. Not just jailbroken, but unlocked. This meant a loss in monthly royalties.

I definitely agree with this. Someone already mentioned money so I brought up another reason...
 
A few months later, that all changed when Apple estimated in a quarterly earnings call that almost 20% of iPhone sold so far had been unlocked. Not just jailbroken, but unlocked. This meant a loss in monthly royalties.

That's assuming that all unlocked phones are going to rival carriers for service. There are a lot of people that unlock their iPhones for traveling, and then return to AT&T when they get back to the US.
 
Apple has a love/hate relationship with the jailbreak community. And for obvious reasons.
 
Good idea to block it. But in any case, isn't in-store jailbreaking vandalism--and in theory a prosecutable offense? If apple really wanted to, they could make an example out of someone using their in-store cameras. Not that I'd want to be the person to be made an example of, but it really is disrespectful and just wrong to jailbreak others' phones, especially apple's. It's one thing to do it for yourself (which I support). What would you do if a friend asked to borrow your phone to check their email, and you got it back and it was jailbroken??
 
All I see becoming of this is Apple spending more money and effort into making sure the iPhone 5 is even more resistant to jailbreaking. There are a lot of things Apple can do to lock out jailbreaking even more:

1: Have a daemon that runs as root that kills any processes that are not signed or on a manifest. Even non-root users, if a process isn't owned by an app, it gets killed. This definitely would prevent the install of Cydia.

2: AT&T could scan for JB/UL iPhones on their network and ban them permanently by IMEI, just like how Microsoft bans modded xBoxes off of XBL.

3: Apple could use a TPM based system similar to the PS3. It has been years, and the PS3 has had nobody even get close to any type of "jailbreak" on it. This can be done by having Apple make a custom ARM CPU with the TPM functionality and ROM on it, guaranteeing nobody can just JTAG flash the device.
 
Good. I think people who ran the Jailbreak on Apple store phones are idiots.

I'm sorry but I disagree I find it funny

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I did it to 8 devices at my local Apple Store as a protest against all the silly lil fanboiz out there.

Personally I think its hilarious

:D

+1

I went to my local mall and saw that one was just restored and was being put back on display as I was walking in... I quickly jailbroke it again and asked the same rep who restored it -- why is THIS iPhone different? and how come MY old iPHone can't do all of these things?
 
All I see becoming of this is Apple spending more money and effort into making sure the iPhone 5 is even more resistant to jailbreaking. There are a lot of things Apple can do to lock out jailbreaking even more:

1: Have a daemon that runs as root that kills any processes that are not signed or on a manifest. Even non-root users, if a process isn't owned by an app, it gets killed. This definitely would prevent the install of Cydia.

2: AT&T could scan for JB/UL iPhones on their network and ban them permanently by IMEI, just like how Microsoft bans modded xBoxes off of XBL.

3: Apple could use a TPM based system similar to the PS3. It has been years, and the PS3 has had nobody even get close to any type of "jailbreak" on it. This can be done by having Apple make a custom ARM CPU with the TPM functionality and ROM on it, guaranteeing nobody can just JTAG flash the device.

and why would Apple do it? they are already behind in features and their small team dev mentality will put them further behind if they spend time to do all these things.

and AT&T will get sued if they try to ban JB'd iphones. and they will lose.
 
You ever want to give a cop the finger because he pulled you over doing 61 in a 55? Sorta along the same lines.

No. Actually I've never wanted to give a cop the finger. Usually if I'm pulled over I accept it or I'm angry at myself for being caught. I think that's because I accept the responsibility/have accountability for my actions


+1

I went to my local mall and saw that one was just restored and was being put back on display as I was walking in... I quickly jailbroke it again and asked the same rep who restored it -- why is THIS iPhone different? and how come MY old iPHone can't do all of these things?

That makes you a bigger a#$% than the OP. Congrats!
 
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