Because everybody's immune system responds differently is why that happens.Where is the logic in that? As a vaccinated person you can still carry and spread the virus!
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Apple Stores to Drop Mask Requirement for Vaccinated Customers This Week
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The only fly in the ointment is the new delta variant from India, its a lot more contagious and you still have that 10% of the population (kids under 12) with no vaccines for them.
Isn't this the truth. My friend teaches in Wuhan and was there when all this broke out. They were all confined to their apartments for about 10-12 weeks, with food being delivered to their lobby. All we've been asked to do is wear a damn mask..... even if the mask is proven to be ineffective, flu data suggests they've done a great job, all we have had to do is wear a mask and keep a bit of distance.
What an total unscientific decision. Vaccinated people can be infected and spread the decease as good as non vaccinated. The best we have at the moment is people who has been through infection and are healthy.
Apple will no longer require vaccinated customers to wear masks inside their retail stores in the U.S, a major shift in policy compared to last month, according to Bloomberg.
The new change, expected to go into effect on Tuesday, will no longer require customers who have been fully vaccinated against COVID-19 to wear masks inside Apple Stores in the United States. Bloomberg notes that Apple has been informing retail leaders and staff of the change, noting that employees will continue to be required to wear masks.
Apple last month told retail employees that mask requirements would stay in place following updated guidance from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), which states that fully vaccinated people no longer need to wear a mask outdoors or in the majority of indoor settings.
In an internal memo obtained by Bloomberg, Apple says that thanks to the progress that has been made in the U.S., it can now safely begin "moving to the next phase of resumption and will begin to operate under Phase 3 onsite protocol." Phase 3 protocol, according to the memo, includes Apple protocol being updated to "permit optional masking for vaccinated individuals." Physical distancing requirements are also being "relaxed."
As part of the return to normalcy, Apple also plans to begin a slow transition to moving back to in-person work at Apple Park this fall.
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You can still get, carry and spread COVID when vaccinated. Masks are there to protect people from you, not protect you from other people.
Simply saying "science is real" doesn't make your statement scientific. Lockdown states with mask mandates and social distancing are not doing better than the states with opposite policies. In fact they're doing worse. The charade is wearing off and thus strict lockdown states are finally catching up and relaxing their mandates. If they keep up with the lockdowns too long, the citizenry will figure out it doesn't match the "science".
Apple is a global leader, their merits don't need to be repeated on this forum. Going mask-less is something they've had to thoroughly research (unlike you), to avoid embarrassing headlines.
The amount of people posting here claiming to be 'of the science' is laughable.
Yay! Eventually the Karens will have to find a new cause and new flair. These masks are starting to become their maga hat.
Ok Mr. Science;
Do you really not see that you're just saying vaccines don't work and people should just contract covid naturally? You know....what they call....natural immunity?
If your science says the vaccine doesn't work, why should anybody risk a FDA unapproved experimental chemical cocktail shot into their bodies? Why are government organizations offering free school tuition and wheel of fortune style lotteries to promote people getting vaccines? Why did we risk people dying from a vaccine that doesn't work? Your level of self-contradiction is actually amazing.
I applaud you, ser.
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There is no common sense anymore. It has been replaced by good judgement. I’m hoping everyone uses good judgement when entering an Apple Store and uses their discretion to judge if a mask is necessary
100 years from now, people will look back at laugh at this because they can see that people 100 years before Covid-19, people took the Spanish Flu more seriously. They were fined US$100 for not wearing a mask.
My guess would be is that corporate doesn't want the bad press and liability of spreading anything. They want to be able to say they followed every safety procedure recommended. And for such a huge global conglomerate, its the smart thing to do. While at the same time, not alienating their customers, who should be smart enough to look up the effectiveness of masks, vaccines, spread/hospitalization rates, and so on.
Only a ideologically fanatic C-suite would allow masks to continue when the numbers no longer support it.
The covid paranoid (certain political grouping) still believe that over 50% of covid cases require hospitalization, and thus why we still have people today clamoring for masks.
lol This makes zero sense. You can still catch and spread the virus just as easily if you're vaccinated. Are that many people ignorant? I guess it's not about the virus after all. It's just about pushing for vaccine travel passports/identification. So you're allowed to enter an Apple store without a mask if you're vaccinated and still spread the virus to anyone else inside the store and also catch the virus. Makes sense.
The masks are actually useless because the virus enters your tear ducts and ears more easily than your mouth and nose. So personally, I don't care about the masks anyway. It's Apple's reasoning (and everyone else's) I find hilarious.
The only thing the vaccine "might" do is reduce the severity of symptoms and that is a mammoth unknown. No one can tell me that's a fact because all of them are still under stage 3 clinical trials which means nothing is fact. There's simply no way to argue that. They are not approved final stage vaccines. This means they are lab-rat-level experiments and the results may not be seen/known for a decade down the road. Maybe 20 years down the road, --maybe unknown until your kids become 30 and develop some odd genetic disease-- Can anyone show me 5 year Covid-19 vaccine clinical study results? How bout 2 year? 1 year? lol
I can understand maybe if you are 75 years old, don't really care about your health, cannot have children anymore, just want to travel to Bali before you die and are ok with potential heart and organ issues. However, if you are someone who is entertaining the idea of having children, be prepared for the possibility that any kids you have after getting vaccinated may develop very serious health issues and major disabilities.
The best anyone can say is that the vaccine hasn't made you vomit for what 30 days? Is that good enough for you? If so, then you don't deserve to give birth/have kids if that's how little you value your new child's health. If you don't get the vaccine you might die you say. So what you're saying then is you value your life over your newborn's. Good logic.
The masks are actually useless because the virus enters your tear ducts and ears more easily than your mouth and nose. So personally, I don't care about the masks anyway. It's Apple's reasoning (and everyone else's) I find hilarious.
The only thing the vaccine "might" do is reduce the severity of symptoms and that is a mammoth unknown. No one can tell me that's a fact because all of them are still under stage 3 clinical trials which means nothing is fact. There's simply no way to argue that. They are not approved final stage vaccines. This means they are lab-rat-level experiments and the results may not be seen/known for a decade down the road. Maybe 20 years down the road, --maybe unknown until your kids become 30 and develop some odd genetic disease-- Can anyone show me 5 year Covid-19 vaccine clinical study results? How bout 2 year? 1 year? lol
I can understand maybe if you are 75 years old, don't really care about your health, cannot have children anymore, just want to travel to Bali before you die and are ok with potential heart and organ issues. However, if you are someone who is entertaining the idea of having children, be prepared for the possibility that any kids you have after getting vaccinated may develop very serious health issues and major disabilities.
The best anyone can say is that the vaccine hasn't made you vomit for what 30 days? Is that good enough for you? If so, then you don't deserve to give birth/have kids if that's how little you value your new child's health. If you don't get the vaccine you might die you say. So what you're saying then is you value your life over your newborn's. Good logic.
Why? Apple is following the science and the cdc guidelines. 🤦🏾♂️
i identify as a liberal but someone of them are nuts. Liberals screamed believe the science and trust vaccines for a year. Now the science says people dont need to wear a mask if youre vaccinated. Like a bunch of two faced hypocrites, the science isnt good enough for liberals anymore.
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Yes you do and others have a right to not wear a mask. So dont get all uppity with them because they dont want to wear it when they are not sick.
Haha these threads are always good for a laugh. You may want to Google “per capita deaths” to better understand this basic concept. Population has nothing to do it.
The death rate per capita here is 1,000x lower than the US, despite a population density higher than any US city. But sure, keep telling yourself fairy tales and making yourself the laughing stock of the world.
Where did I say they don't work? If you take 10 mins of your busy life and read Biontechs report about how that vaccine should work you would know this as well. They are NOT, I repeat, NOT designed to hinder infection. They are designed to limit symptoms. Why goverments et all are saying they offer a way of stopping infection spread is beyond my imagination. But countries around the world are not using the vaccines the way the manufacturers intended either. Ie too long time between doses, mixing dose 1 and does 2 between different kinds etc.
The more people take the vaccine the better, but dont for a second think you are protected from beeing infected, not spreading it because then you are living in a lie.
From the CDC (last updated 23 May 2021):
"Early data show that vaccines help keep people with no symptoms from spreading COVID-19."
This is not the same as saying "almost all evidence" because the latter would imply that the evidence collected so far is in any way conclusive.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/keythingstoknow.html (archived)
You don't get it, do you?
"I don't want the vaccination."
"THEN WEAR A MASK! YOU ARE PERFECTLY FREE NOT TO DO SO IF YOU JUST WEAR A MASK."
"But I don't want to wear masks."
"THEN GET VACCINATED! YOU WON'T HAVE TO WEAR A MASK IF JUST GET A VACCINE."
"But I don't want the vaccination either."
"I don't want the vaccination."
"THEN WEAR A MASK! YOU ARE PERFECTLY FREE NOT TO DO SO IF YOU JUST WEAR A MASK."
"But I don't want to wear masks."
"THEN GET VACCINATED! YOU WON'T HAVE TO WEAR A MASK IF JUST GET A VACCINE."
"But I don't want the vaccination either."
No way in hell am I taking a vaccine where the corps making them have been made immune to prosecution. If they weren't given that bypass, these vaccines would still be in development.... tells me everything I need to know.
I will continue to wear my mask, rather be safe and protect myself and others. It just feels normal now since i BEEN doing this since the pandemic began.
I must admit though, with it being Winter here in Australia, I am finding my mouth being nice warm with the mask covering it quite a god send.
It just feels normal now since i BEEN doing this since the pandemic began.I must admit though, with it being Winter here in Australia, I am finding my mouth being nice warm with the mask covering it quite a god send.
Read some science about masks and you will end up not wearing one either. To quote WHO May 2020 pre politicians took over: Face masks should not be used by the public. Masks in fabric should "not be used in any setting".
This is science, all else is pure bull. Virus particles is much smaller than the silly paper filters filtration.
This is science, all else is pure bull. Virus particles is much smaller than the silly paper filters filtration.