I'm fairly sure nobody can force you to not wear a mask, other than for identification purposes (like security checks, airports, police controls and so on)
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I'm fairly sure nobody can force you to not wear a mask, other than for identification purposes (like security checks, airports, police controls and so on)
And that's why I posted the graph that showed such a proclamation was both premature and, well, wrong. Here it is again.That is why I added the link to a rapport that states that the people of Tokyo got herd immunity last year, it's impossible in Tokyo to keep 1,5 meter distance. Tradition or not.
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When's the last flu season that killed over 600,000 people DURING a time of unprecedented lockdowns? Not to mention the more contagious variants now, like Delta. SARS-CoV-2 is not like an annual flu. It's also not the end of the world, but it's clearly much more deadly.
Need it for what?
What is the motivation, the incentive?
Go ahead, square that circle for us, don’t just leave it open.
Disclaimer: If you plan to invoke “virtue signaling” in any way, don’t bother responding.
Unrelatedly, does anyone know where we can redeem these “virtue signaling” points in the Virtuous Signals Reward Program? Is there an equivalent cash value? Bonus tiers?
We certainly haven’t been out in public wearing masks and perpetuating the “COVID lie” so people we don’t know and will probably never see again (unless you live in a VERY small town/community) will be convinced of our virtue for nothing!
The strength of a “virtue signal” and $3 will get someone a ride on the bus, but so many seem to ascribe an irrational amount of motivation to it. Can never say why, though.
lol, if I knew why they needed it then I’d have a way to combat it. Interesting that you would go to virtue signaling. The mask is definitely a virtue signal.
Really the honor system?! Apple, Disney and so many others thinking the honor system will work? I get why they do it, they can say they are doing something when in reality its the absolute path of least resistance. When companies looked like they were caring about customers more than the $ now its back to "lets look like we are doing something".
With the delta variant (which is just what rocked the hell out of India in their latest wave and nearly collapsed the healthcare in that country) is rising in the US and we are nowhere near even 60% overall US vaccinated (thanks to most states being 40 and below) this is really premature.
Yes we need to open up and move on. However, big ships don't make "turn on a dime" turns, big ships steer slowly. If we even want a semblance of normal without new lockdowns or massive amounts of people getting sick and dying we need to be smart about this, not hunting for the $$$ or the political clout.
With the delta variant (which is just what rocked the hell out of India in their latest wave and nearly collapsed the healthcare in that country) is rising in the US and we are nowhere near even 60% overall US vaccinated (thanks to most states being 40 and below) this is really premature.
Yes we need to open up and move on. However, big ships don't make "turn on a dime" turns, big ships steer slowly. If we even want a semblance of normal without new lockdowns or massive amounts of people getting sick and dying we need to be smart about this, not hunting for the $$$ or the political clout.
As others have stated, the more replication you have (number of cases), the greater the likelihood of mutation.
"Variants are going to happen regardless" is pretty pedantic.
Ideally, we need to do for this what we did for smallpox - vaccinate it out of existence (ideally). We can do this by making sure that all of the lesser developed countries have ample supplies of vaccines.
The US needs to figure out how to get everyone vaccinated. Too many people have turned this into a partisan issue.
The only reason for the vaccinated to require masks now is to increase the chances that the COVIDiots also wear masks so they don't infect each other, vaccinated are effectively uninfectable and won't get terribly ill or transmit it even if they got a breakthrough infection. From the hospitalization information pretty much only those who have chosen not to be vaccinated are getting hospitalized.
We can't wait around for the modern era Luddites, they have a right to make potentially fatal mistakes same as everyone else.
The best vaccines are only 90% effective. (so you still have a 1 in 10 chance if you're in close contact with someone that's infectious).
We need to get the number of people that are unvaccinated approaching zero. The US is only about half. No-where near "herd immunity" - which is when you should be taking your masks off (for indoors or mass transit).
Explain how, in this Information Age, how every country and government can keep a scam like this quiet? This is seriously flat earth talk here. It’s not possible to keep something like that a secret.
Ah, so you’re convinced of something that you confidently project onto others that you can’t even provide a motivation for?
That’s…certainly a way to draw a conclusion.
Because there is still a chance? It’s not 100% cure of COVID. I have not been sick for one day since this whole mess started. I used to get sick a lot due to people not staying home when they feel bad.
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Link?
Here, I'll help you out:
WHO - herd immunity topic:
Coronavirus disease (COVID-19): Herd immunity, lockdowns and COVID-19
Updated 31 December 2020
Mayo Clinic:
Herd immunity and COVID-19: What you need to know
Get the facts about coronavirus and herd immunity.
www.mayoclinic.org
We're going to enjoy a false sense of hope as the warmer weather reduces the contagion (see last year), with the cold and flu season coming back in the fall, if we don't have almost everyone vaccinated by then, we could have a 4th wave.
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Here in Georgia (US) we've been largely opened up for a while now, with the remaining restrictions largely eliminated in early April. Some folks choose to keep wearing their masks, but in effect most do not - even indoors and in stores (just my personal observation)
Vaccine supply has exceeded demand for weeks now, with mass-vaccination sites closing from lack of interest, and thus IMHO nearly everyone over 12 wanting vaccination has had ample opportunity to do so.
The seven day moving average has continued to trend downward since January. Local TV news ran a story a week or so ago about the drop; a doctor they interviewed said he's seen people still hospitalized but none were vaccinated. Yes, anecdotal, so take it for what you will.
We shall see what effect this delta variant has, and I imagine if there's a spike we'll see a response accordingly.
Source: https://dph.georgia.gov/covid-19-daily-status-report
It wouldn’t violate HIPAA. HIPAA is about need to know and accountability. Does your employer know you drink and drive? No. Does a store that needs to protect employees need to know if your vaccinated? I’d say yes. To protect employees and others in the store. Does an employer need to know if I’m on drugs? Yes, that is why you do those screenings when you apply for a job. Does an employer need to know if I’m on heart medication? No.
Well the store employees will be safe, hope everyone else uses common sense.
Masks don't protect you - they protect others from you.
There has not been a recorded covid death in my state since May 31st. It was one on that day.
They do both, but they're also not complete protection. You can get contaminants on your hands, touch your eyes.
They stop you from inhaling (if it's an N95) any airborne virus. If it's not an N95 mask, the virus can get through it, but it does significantly reduce what you're able to put into the air.
Really, what is this, bot invasion?
Your mask has done nothing whatsovever from day 1, the wax doesn't work in fact it makes everyone really sick, and coN-vid is easily cured by drugs that are cheap, widely available, have been around for 50+ years and also ... all have been suppressed by media and social media.
Even the US Senate is getting it which means the truth wave is unstoppable, no matter how thick the lies were, and no matter how many trillions the ones behind all this are making from their waxes. Truth prevails.
All these facts are now widely available on the internet, nothing is hidden, there's no hidden conspiracies, there's only out-in-the-open and hiding-in-plain-sight conspiracies, which, if you do about 5 minutes of looking, you'll find.
Apple is unfortunately playing along in this dystopian nightmare soap opera, but the narrative is currently falling apart like a house of cards, Fauci emails prove to everyone what we - who were paying attention - knew for over a year already. Stick your head in the sand, your choice, but it's gonna get really uncomfortable...as the story collapses like the house of cards it always was..
PS: The US Senate is going after big tech for censorship and suppression of truth. They're going to get hit hard.
"Historically, only the truth has ever been censored" ~ F. Niezsche
Even the Great Dr. Fauci was finally pressed into giving a real answer two weeks ago about those vaccinated. I can't believe CBS was the one to press him on this, but good on them.
He said if you are vaccinated and you get the virus its basically game over for the virus. The viral load that you will carry is so small that it can't infect anyone else. He said that the data showed the same thing for those who had covid already....than you can get it again, in rare cases, but the load you carry is not transmissable.
Combine vaccinated with those that have had it....and I am going to say you have at least 70% of the population covered in the US.
I don’t blame you. And I’m being serious, I do not blame you. If I lived near enough an Apple Store so shopping there was convenient I don’t think that I would not wear a mask. There is a store in Omaha but it hasn’t been open except by appointment and it’s around a 50 minute drive each way. Not impossible but I have to really need to go there to not just order something online.
That isn't going to happened. The COVIDiots are about 30% of the population and say they will never get vaccinated. They just don't care and there is no way to make them develop critical thinking this late in the game. There will be no herd immunity.
Vaccination is NOT a cure. You can still get it with your party of 50 people.
And since a vaccine is NOT a cure, I think it’s reasonable for me to keep wearing masks. Just like how I HATE when co workers come to work sick, I’d hate to spread my illnesses. I’m hoping this causes the US to become like Japan. They wear masks a lot there pre-COVID.