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Apple Stores to Drop Mask Requirement for Vaccinated Customers This Week
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I live in MO and the mask requirement for vaccinated people was lifted after the CDC said it was ok maybe a day after. I would say 3/4 of people have ditched the mask. My company followed a few days later. I have not worn a mask for a month now.
I did try to go into the Apple store to pickup my new Apple TV I ordered online and they would not let me in without a mask. They brought out to me. They said because their HQ was in CA they were still required to wear one. I just laughed and left.
Actually I might start doing that because I haven’t even gotten a cold or any other ailment in 18 months. I thank the mask for it.
almost all evidence to date, and almost all studies to date indicate "vaccines help keep people with no symptoms from spreading COVID-19" that is a fact. if that evidence isn't conclusive, doesn't have the volume or time for scientists to say it is certain is another thing. it certainly is good enough that the director of the CDC and the President of the United States have stated on the public record that the evidence that vaccinated individuals don't spread COVID-19 (again, nothing in life is 100%, I'm talking nearly 100% of the time) is WHY they issued the nationwide guidance that vaccinated people do not need to wear masks inside or outside.
Where in my message do I get all uppity with others because they don’t want to wear it? I didn’t know this mask topic was so polarizing (just like nowadays politics).
In my message, I’m just talking about my wish to keep wearing a good mask to protect myself, and a good ventilation system on the facilities, with HEPA filters, to protect others. That’s it, we have to try, as a society, to contain the spread of the virus while we keep vaccinating the population and evaluating the effectiveness of it against new mutations, that’s all.
They’re not, if you read the article. But it’s been a lingering question on my mind so I figured I’d turn to the medical professionals here on MacRumors haha
Yeah, because I'm sure if you were in a hospital and having surgery or any kind of procedure you wouldn't mind if the physicians and nurses didn't wear mask.
Or maybe not and strengthen your immune system. That has worked for hundreds of years.
IMHO the CDC has way more information than you do, and its not based on your "Me" vision. Now that Joey B is running the government we can't blame their decisions on the other guy.
What you left out of your equation of vaccination numbers is the number of people that have had it as well. The walking immune. You have....vaccinated people, those that have had it, those that have had neither and those that have passed. I would bet we are at least at the 70% mark if not higher for the vaccinated, those that have had it or those that have passed.
Also around the end of March hospitalizations starting going down. It was theorized at the time that vaccinations were up, those that had it already were was way up and those getting then/now were a younger group of the population that if they did have symptoms just rode it out like any other cold/flu.
Where I live the pandemic is over. My state followed the CDC directive a day after and I hardly see anyone wearing a mask anymore.
Much like their chosen politicians, many people "Follow the Science" and "Listen to the Experts" when it supports their pre-conceived positions.
Which countries? And what is the source on masks "working well" in these countries to prevent the flu?
And in early June 2020 WHO director-general Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said that "in light of evolving evidence, the WHO advises that governments should encourage the general public to wear masks where there is widespread transmission and physical distancing is difficult, such as on public transport, in shops or in other confined or crowded environments".
But you probably know they changed their recommendations then and blame it on political pressure or whatever. But it’s certainly not science to make a decision about something that hasn’t really been studied and stick to the initial decision regardless of what new evidence is brought to light by new studies. Now that would be pure bull.
The WHO previously argued there was not enough evidence to say that healthy people should wear masks. That’s not saying there is evidence that healthy people should not wear masks.
Actually, no. That was the question that remained so the CDC suggested that the vaccinated still wear masks early on. But data showed that even in breakthrough infections of vaccinated the viremia was so low the individuals were effectively uninfectious. That’s why the CDC massively relaxed the mask wearing recommendations for the vaccinated outside of long term mass close exposure.
I think it will be 10 years before we know the real death count of covid. I am skeptical. I would literally cut the US count in half. That is still 300k which is bigger than the flu many times over. You already have some counties in various states revising they're numbers down.
Was their a financial incentive for a hospital losing lots of money from people choosing not to have their elective procedures done during a time when the hospitals were packed with covid patients, to label a death from say a heart attack or already established cancer, as a covid death, because the person tested positive for covid??
We will never know some of that truth but I suspect, as usual, follow the money and you will find your answer.
On top of the often overlooked fact that even the CDC admitted tens of millions more were infected than were actually recorded. The current downward trend is as equally due to infection as it is to vaccines. It will all come out soon enough that the truth was all along we never needed the 70 percent “magic number” of vaccinations. Natural immunity plays into all of this way more than all the “experts” and virtue signalers are willing to admit.
Well not over. Still plenty of people being hospitalised it’s just that 97% are the unvaccinated. Other than the immune compromised and children less than 12, their vulnerability to illness is by their own choice. As my dad used to say “This is America and you have a right to do 10 stupid things before breakfast if you want.”
Doesn’t mean I don’t have the right to point and laugh, schadenfruende is an actual right too.
That is why I added the link to a rapport that states that the people of Tokyo got herd immunity last year, it's impossible in Tokyo to keep 1,5 meter distance. Tradition or not.
Containing Covid-19 in megacities: Japan’s thoughtful urban planning has a lesson for the world
Tokyo shows other cities how to maximise space, integrate their public transport systems and places relentless emphasis on quality of life.
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No, but I will wear one this season. (Don't care what anyone thinks).
The precious vaccine is pretty effective so there’s not much to worry about ……
Vaccines highly effective against B.1.617.2 variant after 2 doses
New study by PHE shows for the first time that 2 doses of the COVID-19 vaccines are highly effective against the B.1.617.2 variant first identified in India.
The precious vaccine is pretty effective so there’s not much to worry about ……
Vaccines highly effective against B.1.617.2 variant after 2 doses
New study by PHE shows for the first time that 2 doses of the COVID-19 vaccines are highly effective against the B.1.617.2 variant first identified in India.www.gov.uk
43% fully vaccinated is better than most countries but still not there yet.
You have to understand puppy that they NEED this virus. They need it deeply. They care about tv scientists, not actual science.
I'm happy to see a great inprovement in the state of things, but I still think leaving masks behind so soon is a bit of a risk.
Would it be so horribly unsustainable to keep the masks on for like 2 more months?
Just letting the rest of the vaccinations go on and the warm weather roll in.
We've been wearing these masks for a year and a half...what's just 2 more months?
And I don't especially like wearing them...like anyone else
I'd rather wear masks for an extra few months and then not wear them anymore, instead of dropping it now and (god forbid) going into an other mini-lockdown in autumn
Would it be so horribly unsustainable to keep the masks on for like 2 more months?
Just letting the rest of the vaccinations go on and the warm weather roll in.
We've been wearing these masks for a year and a half...what's just 2 more months?
And I don't especially like wearing them...like anyone else
I'd rather wear masks for an extra few months and then not wear them anymore, instead of dropping it now and (god forbid) going into an other mini-lockdown in autumn
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I hope you're right. The CDC probably has access to some sources I personally don't lol, I was talking not about the epidemiological or medic part of the assessment, Im sure if they say vaccinated people don't spread or spread marginally the virus is of course sound, and yes the vaccinated should be rewarded with being able to stop using masks.
I was talking about the social factor and the honor system. Look, Mexico and Canada have only 11% of its population fully vaccinated, and we have the same low hospitalization numbers as the US. Chile, on the other hand, has more vaccinated than the US and its going into a new full lockdown. I'm no expert nor a scientist, I just think across North America we're seasonally in the lows, let's hope the region reaches at least 60% fully vaxed soon and that it stays like that.