Apple Studio Display 2 Code Hints at 120Hz ProMotion, HDR, A19 Chip

[Hajj.david]

Hopefully it will continue to feature a beautiful glossy coating and offer more connection options than just Thunderbolt, such as DisplayPort and HDMI, so that the ASD2 can also be used with a PC.

I know that the Studio Display didn't play particularly well with PCs when it was first released - has that situation improved any? Anyone using these for both a Mac and a PC on their desk?

Works fine with PC, my dad uses one with his dell laptop. I downloaded a 3rd party tool from git (free) for the brightness adjustment. In the past I was burned by installing bootcamp drivers on a non Apple computer (it bricked the Windows installation) because it does more then install drivers. So I would proceed with extreme caution.

That being said the instructions on this page are completely correct: https://gist.github.com/akshayverma1/27c5d6e803d809f6d1298548ad821444

if you do it this way youll be completely fine. Do not do what I did which is be lazy and just try to run the install.

 

[dmr727]

If the Apple Studio Display 2 is a 27" 5K monitor, then $2299 seems way too expensive unless it's mini-LED with 1600 nits of brightness or something like that (which I highly doubt). OLED at that price would be interesting though, for those who don't mind the 27" size.

I tend to agree. There are a lot of other players in the 5K market now. It'll be interesting to see how Apple prices this.

 

[Gloor]

And how do you like the LG 6K? I'm thinking about it too but not sure so any feedback is welcomed

I paid just over US$1500 for my LG 32" 6K after discounts, and the LG 6K includes Thunderbolt 5, 99% AdobeRGB coverage, and height adjustable stand. If the Apple Studio Display 2 is a 27" 5K monitor, then $2299 seems way too expensive unless it's mini-LED with 1600 nits of brightness or something like that (which I highly doubt). OLED at that price would be interesting though, for those who don't mind the 27" size.

 

[Gnattu]

Just wondering why Apple is not using OLED for the new displays, considering the iPad Pro/iPhone is OLED and supposedly so is the next MacBook Pro?

I own a Studio Display and I love it, but I also have an LG C5 right above it and the colors on the OLED are incredible.

Because when OLED displays go bigger, its full screen brightness is harder to maintain. For example, a panel as big as your C5 can only maintain ~200nit full screen brightness and the HDR peak > 1000nit can only be achieved with a small window size like 10% or smaller of the full screen.

For smaller screens like iPhone sized and even iPad sized, OLED displays can archive already superior full screen brightness level, but for larger screens, the technology is simply still not mature enough, and MiniLED is still the most feasible approach to have >1000nit full screen brightness in practice.

 

[enricoclaudio]

I'm still loving my pair of Studio Displays purchased right after released. A new model with improved contrast and brightness + higher refresh rate (120Hz) would be a day one purchase for me, alongside with the new Mac Studio M5.

 

[jouster]

With an A19 it will have about the same compute as my Mac Mini 🤣.

 

[R2FX]

make a space grey version to match M4 MBP and my credit card is ready

 

[ErneX]

Put that in a 32" 6K and I am ready to order. Did not buy the LG 6K and wait for spring (and hoping not only 27" is coming)

Same here. I got tired of looking for the Asus 32 inch 6K here, imo it was a paper launch, nowhere to be found.

 

[geta]

Why would anyone need a computer screen ‘powered by the A19 chip’ ?

 

[satchmo]

I'm curious if they'll reduce the size of the bezels...or perhaps impossible if they keep the webcam.

 

[Student of Life]

The specs look good if not overdue, hopefully Apple maximizes this screen by putting it on new 27 inch or bigger iMacs.

 

[cardfan]

Patiently waiting and not buying current one.

 

[Jay-Jacob]

I bought an ASD on release day, and it is still perfect. Excellent monitor.

Same here. I am not planning upgrade this one until it is minimum of 10 years, probably little longer.

 

[abowlby]

This is going to be closer to the PDXDR than the SD in terms of price. Also, tandem OLED monitors are already starting to trickle into the market, so I’m not sure that mini-LED is the “long term” play here.

 

[bradman83]

Just wondering why Apple is not using OLED for the new displays, considering the iPad Pro/iPhone is OLED and supposedly so is the next MacBook Pro?

I own a Studio Display and I love it, but I also have an LG C5 right above it and the colors on the OLED are incredible.

There's two different OLED technologies, and panels in this size class using the same technology as the iPhone, iPad Pro, and upcoming MBP aren't available.

TVs and larger monitors like the LG C5 generally use all-white OLED panels (WOLED) that use color filters or quantum dot layers to render colors. The masking reduces the brightness of the display output and can reduce color accuracy at peak brightness.

Phones, tablets, and some laptops use RGB OLED panels, meaning each OLED pixel emits either red, green, or blue light without needing a color filter or QD overlay. These panels are much more expensive and much more challenging to manufacture in larger sizes. But they can achieve greater brightness and color saturation/accuracy than WOLED panels.

There are some 27" panels out there that use RGB OLEDs but they're usually hybrid tandem panels (the primary panel is WOLED and the tandem panel is RGB OLED) and the ones currently on the market are limited to QHD resolution. Pure RGB OLED tandem panels would likely be available for sizes up to the 16" MBP but likely not much larger.

 

[abowlby]

Yeah there’s no way Apple has this priced at $1599. They will probably charge more like $1599 for an upgraded base model and have a best model with 120Hz and charge $2299 for it.

Don’t forget the markup on stands that allow you to adjust the thing.

 

[EugW]

And how do you like the LG 6K? I'm thinking about it too but not sure so any feedback is welcomed

The TFT Central review of the LG 6K is here:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/lg-ultrafine-6k-announced.2446818/page-11?post=34247380#post-34247380

And my experience with it begins on October 29 in the same thread.

Overall I think it’s a very good monitor, but I ended up buying a new aluminum stand for it. The stock LG stand looks nice and is height adjustable but doesn’t go very low. It’s good for tall users but not shorter people like myself.

 

[dominiongamma]

Sucks it took so long to get to 120 hz

 

[Shalev Lazarof]

M3 Pro TB4 can push 5K 120Hz?

 

[Hajj.david]

The TFT Central review of the LG 6K is here:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/lg-ultrafine-6k-announced.2446818/page-11?post=34247380#post-34247380

And my experience with it begins on October 29 in the same thread.

Overall I think it’s a very good monitor, but I ended up buying a new aluminum stand for it. The stock LG stand looks nice and is height adjustable but doesn’t go very low. It’s good for tall users but not shorter people like myself.

My experience with LG monitors have been pretty poor. At this point I will only buy monitors from Dell and Apple. They are the only ones that bother to do proper quality control and have solid metal stands that dont shake and wobble with every key press. My LG 5k2k had to be replaced so many times the VP of LG of America basically said if it breaks again they will "lemon law it" so to speak and just give me a full refund despite buying it 2 years ago.

Also the AVP is an amazing monitor.

 

[Nyx1]

Just give US Apple studio pro 2 with chip M5 variant (pro) or X

 

[UMHurricanes34]

I hope Apple returns to offering size options for their display lineup.

If we break off 2019 Apple and the Mac Pro apology plus the over-engineered and overpriced XDR, I think it would make sense to return back to sanity and offer the same display in more sizes, like the Cinema Displays of yore.

Studio Display in 27” 5K or 32” 6K. Feature parity, design parity. Get back to basics.

 

[CWallace]

Hopefully it will continue to feature a beautiful glossy coating and offer more connection options than just Thunderbolt, such as DisplayPort and HDMI, so that the ASD2 can also be used with a PC.

You can be confident that it will only offer a single TB5 connection.

Just wondering why Apple is not using OLED for the new displays, considering the iPad Pro/iPhone is OLED and supposedly so is the next MacBook Pro?

1) Nobody making a 5K OLED display panel, so Apple would have to custom design one and then have LG or BOE fabricate it which would drive the price up significantly.
2) Concern about burn in with static desktop images like the menu bar and dock

I know that the Studio Display didn't play particularly well with PCs when it was first released - has that situation improved any? Anyone using these for both a Mac and a PC on their desk?

There is a large thread dedicated to this topic: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apple-studio-display-windows-compatibility.2338993/

Why would anyone need a computer screen ‘powered by the A19 chip’ ?

To handle the Center Stage camera functionality. As to why it would be A19, I have a feeling Apple ordered so many of these SoCs that they can use them in other products (as it is rumored to be in the next base iPad).

 

[anthony13]

Yea I have two of the originals and there isn’t really any reason to upgrade for me. These should last quite a long time.

 

[ikir]

Can't wait to buy one! I have the current one and I love it it but mini LED and ProMotion would be super cool