Can I use this display with a game console like the PS5? If not, why not? If the new one supports 120Hz, I'd like to buy one as a replacement for my non Apple display, but I also want to be able to play games on it.
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Apple Studio Display 2 Code Hints at 120Hz ProMotion, HDR, A19 Chip
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That sucks, and some other people’s experiences with LG monitors have also been hit and miss, but I’m just reporting my own experience with the LG 6K which so far has been decent… with this n=1 anecdotal experience. Note though that the Dell 6K design looks absolutely horrible, and has bugs on macOS. For these reasons, the Dell 6K was a complete non-starter for me. In contrast, the LG 6K seems to have been designed for macOS and doesn’t have the same macOS bugs. The LG 6K also uses a newer LG panel, includes a Thunderbolt 5 hub, and costs less than the Dell.
Also, I was not interested at all in the 5K2K because the pixel is far too low. The Dell and LG 6K monitors are 224 ppi. The Apple 6K monitor is beautiful but way out of my price range and many people have reported failures of the Apple 6K after about 3 years. There is also the affordable US$1299 Asus 6K but I think that one is also ugly, but not as ugly as the Dell 6K.
The AVP is not a monitor at all for 99.9% of the population.
Probably going to want to look towards M4+ with TB5 to complete a uni-cable solution on anything above 4K pushing 120Hz+ refresh rates. There is a bandwidth limitation of 40Gbps on TB4, so 5K will only run at 60Hz.
One does wonder…
I switched to using an OLED TV as my monitor a couple years ago now and I’m never going back.
I absolutely love the huge size and having it be many feet away from me.
You represent probably <1% of desktop users. That is neither practical nor desirable for the vast, vast majority of users.
A TB5 to HDMI connector might allow you to at least input a video signal to it, but you would not have any control over brightness or such.
Probably because the new XDR display will get OLED. Probably not a cost factor why they don’t put OLED on the Studio version. Apple is know to hold back features on purpose to sell you the more expensive version. See Pencil USB C, laminated display, 120hz on screens etc.
It depends on whether or not Apple uses display stream compression (DSC) or whether they'll require Thunderbolt 5 for an uncompressed signal.
Both the current Studio Display and the Pro Display XDR use DSC (even though the Studio Display technically doesn't need to), so that might be telling.
I wouldn’t bet on that. Apple’s displays have been Thunderbolt/DP exclusive since the, well, Thunderbolt Display. I have a Thunderbolt Display that still gets daily use and I am quite fond of it, however, I would never recommend an Apple monitor to anyone that wants to use anything but Apple products on it. It’s 2025 and so this go around when I upgraded that Thunderbolt Display - I looked elsewhere. These Apple monitors do look really nice though.
That's a bummer. I don’t know why Apple does this weird things and try to lock in everything. Just put an HDMI on the display and let us use it how we want it. Its not a 200 display. Its 1700. At that price point it should be able to handle such things.
I hate that Apple has to lock in everything. Yes they look really nice thats why I want one. They should at least support gaming consoles since we are not able to game on macs.
I can tell you that Macs support DSC.
I am using an LG 6K 6144x3456 monitor at 60 Hz at 10-bit 4:4:4 with my M4 (non-Pro) Mac mini via Thunderbolt 4, and with M4 MacBook Air via DisplayPort 1.4. This requires DSC, since without DSC (like on the Kuycon 6K) it would drop down to 4:2:2.
Couldn’t agree more. For some stuff the “lock in” is whatever, or even useful. It just isn’t on a monitor, especially a $1500-$2500 monitor which this will be once you “upgrade” to a moveable stand. I have a Mac for personal, iPhones, iPads, AirPods…all the stuff. But my work kit is all Windows unfortunately. I literally bought a $60 LG monitor that sits on a shelf at my house so that when I WFH, I can have dual monitors between the laptop and an external display. Meanwhile the uber fancy Apple monitor just sits there. Sometimes I give myself the bird in the reflection of its screen, because that is how the display really feels about me. 🤣
If the 120hz is true for the Studio @ 5k, curious how Apple will approach the Pro XDR's refresh rate as it only makes sense that model would eventually get an increase in refresh as well. TB5 should have no issues transmitting the signal with a 80GBps bandwidth cap for 5k120hz, but 6k @ 120hz pushes that to its limits if even possible as I believe 6K+120hz+10bit surpasses 80Gbps. And Apple doesn't seem like the type to use DSC due to historical reliability/compatibility issues with that compression. Theoretically, ThunderBolt 6 would need to come out as well, unless Apple creates their own.
I posted above that Apple already uses DSC for third party 6K monitors. (You need DSC to get 6K 60 Hz 10-bit 4:4:4 over Thunderbolt 4 and DisplayPort 1.4.) Are you saying that Apple would refuse to use DSC with its own 6K monitors, despite already supporting DSC for third party monitors? Cuz as you say if no DSC, then there would be no 6K 120 Hz, even with Thunderbolt 5, unless it was only running in 120 Gbps mode.
Burn-in? My brother's gen 1 55" LG OLED has a very noticeable burn in where the news chyron is displayed. Granted he has it on the SAME news channel 8-10 hrs/day when he's home. Guess the channel, lol.
I really think the addition of A series processors to Apple’s monitors adds unnecessary complexity, and introduces the possibility for more problems.
Apple needs something to run the monitor, whether that is an A series chip or some third party embedded SoC.
This is incorrect. TB5 can support 6K@120Hz on a single monitor as long as the monitor supports Boost Mode. Thus far, it has been the monitors, not the standard that has prevented this.
Thunderbolt 5 supports up to 120 Gbps, 560Hz, multiple 8K
Three times that of Thunderbolt 4
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The LG panel that this new Apple display will almost assuredly be based off of, already does.
This will also trigger an upgrade cycle for Mac computers.
Maybe they’ll do something really cutting edge and make the height adjustable?
Lol! Nah 😂
Lol! Nah 😂
I said 120 Gbps would support it right in my post that you quoted. However, that would mean that it wouldn't function as a Thunderbolt 5 hub.This is incorrect. TB5 can support 6K@120Hz on a single monitor as long as the monitor supports Boost Mode. Thus far, it has been the monitors, not the standard that has prevented this.
Thunderbolt 5 supports up to 120 Gbps, 560Hz, multiple 8K
Three times that of Thunderbolt 4
The LG panel that this new Apple display will almost assuredly be based off of, already does.
This will also trigger an upgrade cycle for Mac computers.