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Apple Studio Display - Owners Thread
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TB4 has 40gbps
5k = 5120x2880 * 24 bit (color) * 60Hz = 21,233,664,000 bits per second * 2 displays = 42,467,328,000
now one might think that's over 40gbps but 40gbps isn't 40,000,000,000 but instead
40 * 1024 * 1024 * 1024 = 42,949,672,960
so 482,344,960 bytes = 460MB left.
so two 5k displays on one TB4 port should be fine.
The display just receives not 24 bits ("millions of colors"), but actually 30 bits per pixel ("1 billion colors"), hence the actually 26.5Gb/s for the uncompressed video stream.
And Thunderbolt bandwidth (like hardisk capacity) is not indicated on a binary scale but decimal. It is really just slightly above decimal 40Gb/s (40.000.000.000 bits/s) as far as I'm aware.
So only one 5k/30/60 video stream fits into it uncompressed.
Ordered my height adjustable Studio Display yesterday and delivered today.
You don't have any drive or any Mac with the release version of macOS which you could use just for the update?
From what people have reported so far it seems that Apple hasn't released the update for the Ventura beta yet.
No, I don’t. It’s not a big deal since I haven’t really used the speakers. I was just curious.
Confirmed the firmware update isn't available for Ventura. I had some time and reverted back to Monterey and the update immediately was available. I don't even use the speakers enough to know if my display was experiencing any problems.
Yeah, I mostly use headphones with the display. The couple of times I've used the speakers, though, they have sounded fine.
Apple’s default calibration on most stand alone and laptop displays are a little warm especially in the reds. I always suspected that the default calibration has always been done in a room with a little warm light and not in a dark room.
If I look at pure red hex values on Windows and on macOS on the same display, macOS version of pure red looks little bit off towards dark red-orange. Been like this for years.
Have you checked both against an official calibration? I would normally not trust Windows color management above the Mac's by default.
I mean default macOS profile and default Boot Camp profile.
Also if I connect my PC (that I calibrate, but even not calibrated the red is still better) and Macs to the same displays.
I have also cross checked against competitor computers like Alienware, Razor.
macOS is always not a pure red. They have their own interpretation of how it should look.
This all started around the time of the Intel transition. In the 90s and early 2000s Mac OS had red exactly how it should be and it was Windows at that time that was terrible at rendering R, G and B precisely.
any of you guys with the ASD using it as a dock? I was thinking of eliminating my Caldigit TS3 in between my current monitor and 14" MBP. I figured I'd use my USB-C dongle on the back of the ASD to plug in my USB-A light bar, and my ethernet cable...
I have a wired keyboard, an Anker 2.5Gbps ethernet adapter, and an NFC dongle for my Jabra headset, all connected to the ASD so only one wire goes to the MBP. Works fine.
I just purchased the Studio Display for my 2021 M1 MBP 16". I occasionally watch movies or tv shows. I use infuse 7.
Will I have any problems with running it through the display?
Can I play movies on my external hard drive through usb c?
Will I have any problems with running it through the display?
Can I play movies on my external hard drive through usb c?
I upgraded from an older Dell ultrasharp monitor. I used it for photo editing and was always happy with it.
I've seen the 5k Apple Monitors in the store before and was convinced the difference wasn't that great. But of course it's very difficult to appreciate the difference unless they're shown side by side. Our eyes adjust very well to different lighting and color environments, and pass it all off as normal and apparently similar.
But when I finally viewed them side by side, the difference was dramatic.
Initially, I had planned to go with a dual monitor setup. But the difference in brightness, clarity, and color (the Dell was calibrated!) was just too great. The Dell almost looked broken, like it was half-lit. It was a bit like trying to go back and forth reading something under a 100 watt bulb vs a 40 watt bulb.
Re: nano texture.
I placed my iPhone in the bezel of my Dell monitor at different hours of the day to get a sense of performance under different lighting conditions. Like an iPhone, the glossy glass finish of the Studio Monitor is more reflective. But you don't really notice it when it's on. Just as with the iPhone, the brightness of the monitor negates much of the glare. Also, your eyes focus past the faint reflections that still persist.
I watched countless video reviews of the monitor, and the vast majority preferred the glossy over the nano texture, even in most normal, bright environments.
I have a sliding glass door behind me. It's bright most of the day, and I get direct sun on my desk in the late afternoon. But I angled my monitor ~30˚and that eliminates the glare. [I have a VESA mount so it's easy to adjust angles as necessary]
The matte finish of Dell diffused reflections into an indistinct blur; this was a little less distracting, since there's nothing to focus on. But that matte blur can sometimes be brighter and more disruptive. Not always. But it's a bit more "6 of one" or "half dozen of the other" than I expected.
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I see no reason why that shouldn't work – it works for me!
Have fun! 🙂
(I'm running my media HD through a different USB3-Port on my Mac Studio but it shouldn't matter – the bandwidth needed for that should always be much lower than what's available through an ASD USB-C port. And I'm not using infuse, but I see no reason why it would cause any trouble on an ASD if it runs on any other monitor.)
My ASD is arriving tomorrow. Went for base model since I checked measurements and the standard height is about what I used for my current monitor anyway.
Coming from a 4K 27 inch LG which will now slide over and be my side monitor.
Coming from a 4K 27 inch LG which will now slide over and be my side monitor.
Thanks this helps a lot. After looking at them some more at the apple store I can definitely tell there will be a huge improvement. The ASD was an excuse to move my dell 27" to my girlfriends home to use when I am there. Based off of your experience I hope the dell doesn't get rendered useless and I end up with two ASD's!
Generally speaking I don't have much problems working on my glossy 14" or 2019 i9 16" screen. I do remember working in a design agency and we had 27" standard/glossy iMacs facing a huge floor to ceiling window and all we did occasionally was bring down the window covers but I don't remember having much issues.
I have control over most glare in my home office and have a fully articulating VESA arm so really I don't need the Nano-texture, but echo'ing what I put in the nano vs standard thread I really liked how photos looked on the nano- looked like a print and quite natural- different from matte. Whereas photos looked a little overly digital on the glossy but the contrast, UI, text and everything else looked better on the standard. The apple store lighting is bright... but quite diffused and both fared well but the nano definitely looked better in standard conditions. I did run into a standard/glossy at Best Buy and there was some harsh lighting behind it and it seemed a little annoying.
Still have no idea which I want to buy but maybe I'll start with the cheapest
That's what I will likely do if I'm not happy with the performance of them both plugged into my TB4 dock (or if the dock doesn't support both of them attached). I'll find out today as they're due for delivery. I'll post back.
I am with a 14" MBP and it works well. I have a Belkin USB-C/Ethernet adaptor plugged in and a Samsung T5 SSD attached and Velcro'd to the back of the stand. No problems at all.
Mine finally arrived!
Just noticed that being much lighter than my old iMac it is easy to move on the desk. It could even fall.
What do you guys use to make the base safer, stickier?
Just noticed that being much lighter than my old iMac it is easy to move on the desk. It could even fall.
What do you guys use to make the base safer, stickier?
My two displays were delivered (standard-glass VESA mount). They're gorgeous! At the moment I've got one plugged in to each side of the MBP, but I tested briefly with both connected to my Thunderbolt dock and they at least both displayed an image. I've got to move some cables in the back to get them both connected to the dock (dock was too far away from one of the displays to reach with the included TB4 cable; I knew it was 1m in length but seems shorter). But at the moment, they're both working nicely.
They're glossy, but I don't think I needed the nano glass, which is good.
Edit: I have to admit, the clarity of text (which I spend the most time looking at) is truly astounding. I'd been using a very high quality 32" 4K display for the last year or so, and I thought that looked pretty good. I did think, however, that my 52 year-old eyes were catching up to me as small text wasn't as sharp as it could be. Guess what... wasn't my eyes.
I've played with the 5K iMacs and the 5K Ultrafine at the Apple Stores in the past, but I've never had one in my home. I don't think I can go back to 4K. I take back everything I've ever said about 4K being "good enough"... lol.
They're glossy, but I don't think I needed the nano glass, which is good.
Edit: I have to admit, the clarity of text (which I spend the most time looking at) is truly astounding. I'd been using a very high quality 32" 4K display for the last year or so, and I thought that looked pretty good. I did think, however, that my 52 year-old eyes were catching up to me as small text wasn't as sharp as it could be. Guess what... wasn't my eyes.
I've played with the 5K iMacs and the 5K Ultrafine at the Apple Stores in the past, but I've never had one in my home. I don't think I can go back to 4K. I take back everything I've ever said about 4K being "good enough"... lol.
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The included cable sure is short. And 1.8m would be too long. They could have done like 1.2m, that would have been nice, maybe even 1.4m but I guess these are not so standard length.