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I guess this means Apple plans to support the A13 for quite some time which means good news for iPhone 11 users who plan to keep their phones for a long time.
 
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Anyone else try to connect the iPP 12.9/11 or even an older iPad that’s not on the list of compatible iPads?
 
This is the exact same build number as iOS 15.4 and iPadOS 15.4, indicating that the Studio Display runs the full version of iOS
No, it doesn't indicate anything of the sort, any more than iOS having the same version number as iPadOS "indicates" that iPhones are running "full" iPadOS.

What it probably means is that the kernel and other code it happens to have in common with iOS are based on the same version of the sources as the current versions of iOS and iPadOS.

I doubt that it’s the full iOS stack. There’s no need for that. And the bloat and storage issue is real.
Exactly.

You're not gonna be making phone calls on that thing, or using it to find your location with GPS, or running a web browser - all of which are part of "full" iOS. Even if they left that code in there, it wouldn't run without an input device, cellular modem etc.
 
It's only a matter of time before somebody jailbreaks (?) this thing and actually turns it into a PC.

Amiright?
 
It's a display for goodness sake, it does not need an A13 chip and ios!!! geez Apple, what are you playing at?

Also, having the A13 chip and ios will mean that it will not be easy to change the screen if i gets damaged because I have no doubt Apple are using the chip and ios to tie down the screen to the board meaning if you do not get the board reprogrammed to accept the new screen, it will not work. Well that's my opinion anyway.
 
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Ok, but do tell: with 15.4 installed now is the camera much better?
No, it's not. Version 15.4 is what all reviewers who complained about the camera used.

I couldn't notice any difference in camera quality between 15.3 and 15.4. Equally bad ;)
 
While exciting for some features, one could assume this could become difficult to update in the future. Especially if ever used with something other than a Mac-based system. Guessing a 5-7 year update life at most? Security vulnerability patches probably done after that.

I think the attack surface should be pretty minimal. It may be running iOS, but there are far fewer entrypoints than on an iPhone. The display isn't loading webpages, or receiving iMessages, or running third party apps. It is rendering graphics, and presumably doing some sort of processing... hopefully that code doesn't interact too much with the rest of the system. It's also not obvious how you'd get data out once you were in, as the monitor doesn't have an internet connection. I wonder how much it interacts with the host computer?
 
I am wondering if you could use the display as Airplay device even though the Mac would be turned off.
 
I wonder how much it interacts with the host computer?

It is a Thunderbolt monitor with a built-in USB hub + built-in "peripherals" so there is quite a bit of 2-way communication involved over that single cable.

I'd imagine business customers would want a guarantee on updates if they're investing. Usually get 5-7 years on other products and no immediate reason to believe this would be different. Personally would probably look for a display without these "limitations" and more of a straight DP and/or other input methods, but the price and convenience factor could be a big sway for many.

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IMHO, putting an A Series chip inside a monitor was not a great idea; it will just further confuse consumers, and is somewhat misleading (unless maybe they plan on doing more with it later).

Why not make a new chip called ‘D1’ or something?
 
IMHO, putting an A Series chip inside a monitor was not a great idea; it will just further confuse consumers, and is somewhat misleading (unless maybe they plan on doing more with it later).

Why not make a new chip called ‘D1’ or something?

Because designing and fabbing a different chip costs a lot of money, and there‘s no point to it?
 
When will the VESA version be available? so far no store has it and online says not shipping till May...?
 
Because designing and fabbing a different chip costs a lot of money, and there‘s no point to it?
That’s true, and you’re right, but they still could have named it something different, purely because it’s in a different type of product.

I don’t find it impressive that an A-Series chip is in a monitor, just misleading.
 
That’s true, and you’re right, but they still could have named it something different, purely because it’s in a different type of product.

I don’t find it impressive that an A-Series chip is in a monitor, just misleading.

It‘s not intended to be impressive, and it‘s not at all misleading. There is an A-series chip in the monitor.
 
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Wonder if it’s ever going to get jailbroken
Not that I’d ever use it but it would be very amusing to see a Studio Display running iOS with mouse and keyboard control.

While running iOS officially is out of the question Apple should definitely consider adding more features down the line, such as allowing the display to act as an AirPlay display.
That would definitely make people feel better about putting down 1.5k for a display

EDIT I just realized the fact that it’s got an A13 doesn’t imply it has Wi-Fi and Bluetooth. Technically it would be possible to use USB-C adapter for that but I doubt Apple considers this an acceptable UX
 
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I'm convinced the poor webcam quality comes from using an ultrawide lens and then cropping in on the sensor to make it look more normal. This always increases noise and artifacts and is now a hardware problem.
 
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