Did I start off my post with "you're wrong..."? nope.You didn’t so why should I.
Did I start off my post with "you're wrong..."? nope.You didn’t so why should I.
If customers want iTunes so bad on Windows and Microsoft blocked it, customers would leave Windows and get a Mac which means Apple would be better off. Clearly Microsoft doesn't want Apple to sell more Macs so they didn't block iTunes
Very few people switch operating system - let alone purchase a new computer/phone for just a single particular app.Plenty would leave Windows if Microsoft arbitrarily blocked whatever it wants for no valid reason
I switched to the Macintosh because it was a better experience.If Microsoft arbitrarily blocked whatever it wants for no valid reason, plenty would leave to Mac
Plenty do that too.I switched to the Macintosh because it was a better experience.
That was one judge's opinion based on what the lawyers presented.I mean, a judge already ruled that Apple was abusing their position, so I don't see how that is in doubt. It has been fully appealed and is final.
Hmm, not sure that was the case.
That was one judge's opinion based on what the lawyers presented.
My point was that app developers were making money before the Apple AppStore and would still be making money if there was no iPhone. Apple can’t take credit for the work done by app developers.And your point would be? No one claimed that Apple invented the concept of an Application Store.
I think (s)he has one point:You’re wrong on both points.
An individual developer needs Apple more than Apple needs any individual developer.one needs more than the other.
It could simply indicate that people are purchasing more from iPhones & iPads than on whatever computer they happened to have. Of course that could also indicate that the only traditional computer they have access to is a company supplied computer where personal usage is prohibited and they have to use their iPhone or iPad to make personal purchases.It's true we should be skeptical. It does not, however, mean Apple's data are incorrect. It can be true that this is PR spin and a generally accurate reflection of the impact of the App Store.
It's of course likely that some of the economic activity would occur elsewhere (e.g., purchases through Amazon app could be instead through website on a laptop or desktop computer). However, there are data that suggest Amazon app users visit the app more frequently than website users do, and more more purchases (https://mfour.com/wp-content/upload...n-App-and-Browser-Consumer-Behavior-Study.pdf). That's using Amazon as an example.
There's a lot of uncertainly with analyses like what Apple sponsored, but it does have a lot of the data to be accurate with the core app store activity estimates. The broader economic benefits data is where it gets fuzzier.
So you are advocating ignoring Apple's contributions because something existed before? Apple did make it easier for developers to get the products to customers and that should not be ignored.My point was that app developers were making money before the Apple AppStore and would still be making money if there was no iPhone. Apple can’t take credit for the work done by app developers.
So you are advocating ignoring Apple's contributions because something existed before? Apple did make it easier for developers to get the products to customers and that should not be ignored.
I and many others will not trust third party application stores or sketchy websites for purchasing anything.Yes, acknowledge it, and then realize that it was almost 20 years ago. The world is a different place, and they have been handsomely paid for it. Time to open things up. Phones are too important in society to be locked behind the whims of profit-seeking middlemen.
By that logic, Sony should take credit for iPhone's success because if iPhone didn't have a camera, no one would buy it.My point was that app developers were making money before the Apple AppStore and would still be making money if there was no iPhone. Apple can’t take credit for the work done by app developers.
That’s how the legal system works. Judges make decisions based on the evidence presented.That was one judge's opinion based on what the lawyers presented.
I and many others will not trust third party application stores or sketchy websites for purchasing anything.
I and many others will not trust third party application stores or sketchy websites for purchasing anything.
I have the book as well, I have not had a chance to read it. Of course that points out that Steve Jobs was not unreasonable and there could have been a very good reason to exclude it to begin with, who really knows. When developing a new product, you have to focus on the required features to get it out the door and that could be the initial reason to the first version of the iPhoneOS to not have an Application Store. Native applications are better than websites masquerading as applications in every respect.That is from the Walter Isaacson biography, not from the Guardian. I have a copy on my shelf at home and have read it.
He also said it himself, on stage, at the unveiling of the iPhone. Watch a copy of it on YouTube.
..and you don't have to! I would get to chose 3rd party stores, and you would stick to Apples. Choice is grand!
No, I’m saying Apple can’t take credit for the whole thing like they’re trying to. They’re trying to imply that without the Apple AppStore non of this revenue would have been generated which is clearly complete BS.So you are advocating ignoring Apple's contributions because something existed before? Apple did make it easier for developers to get the products to customers and that should not be ignored.
Based on legal analysis, not their opinion. At least that is how it is supposed to work.That’s how the legal system works. Judges make decisions based on the evidence presented.
I do not see Apple trying to take credit for developers building applications for people to purchase. They are simply showing that the App Store is great for the economy and allows smaller developers compete with large enterprises.No, I’m saying Apple can’t take credit for the whole thing like they’re trying to. They’re trying to imply that without the Apple AppStore non of this revenue would have been generated which is clearly complete BS.
Based on legal analysis, not their opinion. At least that is how it is supposed to work.
They could've complied properly with the original ruling instead they didn't as they thought that they were right and beyond the law and now they've lost a significant amount of control in the App Store.Agree with said Judge or not, that was the ruling. This Appeals court seems to agree, and the Supreme Court has already agreed with the original anti-steering ruling. It's not looking good for Apple.
They could've complied properly with the original ruling instead they didn't as they thought that they were right and beyond the law and now they've lost a significant amount of control in the App Store.
The same situation is playing out in the EU.
Apple thought that they were bigger than nation states and political blocs, but they are not.
That is an Apple problem, not a problem for me. If a developer does not provide an option to purchase through the App Store, then I just do not need their product.Agree with said Judge or not, that was the ruling. This Appeals court seems to agree, and the Supreme Court has already agreed with the original anti-steering ruling. It's not looking good for Apple.
That is an Apple problem, not a problem for me. If a developer does not provide an option to purchase through the App Store, then I just do not need their product.