Fair enough, and this should indeed help Apple's case
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Apple Sued by U.S. Department of Justice, Says Lawsuit is 'Wrong'
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That is at the core of what EU forces on Apple, but this DOJ case goes further.
It seeks to deny Apple to take advantage of developing multiple devices (HW and SW), then making them interoperate better than the mix-and-match competition. I think this is ridiculous.
Apple’s time is ending. Their monopoly is over.
This is one monopoly that was allowed to run for too long.
This is one monopoly that was allowed to run for too long.
They've already done this with Mac OS. I'm kind of at a loss as to why so many think a security model that works perfectly fine on the Mac wouldn't also be great on mobile. These operating systems are already thoroughly sandboxed and secure on a very fundamental level. iOS and Mac OS aren't Windows 95.
Is there a parallel here with Microsoft and Xbox? American company that has (I don't have an Xbox so I'm guessing) just one store to purchase Xbox games from? Can you load an Xbox game from a website? Sideload? Where are the alternate Xbox games stores? I mean, if Apple or whomever is in the wrong as they claim, when will they go after Micorosft's Xbox game "walled garden" and monopoly on Xbox games. An imperfect analogy, to be sure, but there are similarities.
They worked on it for five years and have seen how the previous cases against Apple have played out, so, I am assuming they would have done their homework. I doubt Apple will escape unscathed this time. Especially, since it will be buckling down to the EU in the DMA implementation, I doubt judges will be lenient with them.
Several other countries are proceeding along the same lines, it seems.
Interesting days ahead (not for Apple, though) /s.
An attack on Apple is an attack on the essence of Americana.
This is an absolute disgrace. Tim Apple needs to engage with Donnie.
This is an absolute disgrace. Tim Apple needs to engage with Donnie.
What does Biden have to do with this lawsuit? Do you live in a dictatorship. I don't think so. I would hope the Justice Department follows its own rules in the US and does not have to depend on a single individual like Putin Russia
Do you like using apps that break UI guidelines in OS X? The UI is probably one of the biggest factors on whether an app will be successful or not IMO.
I strongly support anti-trust activity, but this one is bogus.
Apple making their devices work well with each other, collecting fees for apps, etc., sold through their own platform, et al. are simply examples of a company developing an ecosystem that works well 🤷♂️
If anything, that makes them MORE competitive - other companies need to keep up, rather than Apple needing to slow down.
Apple making their devices work well with each other, collecting fees for apps, etc., sold through their own platform, et al. are simply examples of a company developing an ecosystem that works well 🤷♂️
If anything, that makes them MORE competitive - other companies need to keep up, rather than Apple needing to slow down.
If you're referring to the antitrust case against Microsoft, that would mean Apple was wrong as well since they backed the DoJ's case and provided testimony in it.
Is this satire? Otherwise it’s the best joke I’ve ever read. Macrumors really becomes an echo chamber.
Yeah not to derail, but I am pissed about that also. Let's burn a **** ton more coal so we can charge EVs. Not to mention more than likely strain or kill the power grids that are not ready for the task.
Based on what I read, the lawsuit is about Apple restrictions related to:
-iMessage on other devices
-NFC/Wallet access to third party
-Game Streaming (which Apple just allowed)
-Other watches integrated with iPhone
These are very weak issues and will be difficult to prove anti-trust.
-iMessage on other devices
-NFC/Wallet access to third party
-Game Streaming (which Apple just allowed)
-Other watches integrated with iPhone
These are very weak issues and will be difficult to prove anti-trust.
Well we'll see where this goes. They were hit with an antitrust lawsuit with the iPod and they won that. They're probably guilty of anticompetitive behavior with the iPhone, but I'm not sure if it rises to the level of monopoly.
What monopoly? If you want to say apple abused power sure.
Apple is not a monopoly because I have the ability to use lagdroid
Right? When you pick the money guy to replace the ideas guy... its surprising what happens
Incoming: another embarrassment for the Department of Jokes.
"... and create a magical experience for our users."
Say wha? Do they think they're Disney World? They sell telephones.
Say wha? Do they think they're Disney World? They sell telephones.
People don’t chose iPhones cause they’re forced to, but because it’s different than Android. If we force all systems to be the same, there is no choice.
Nothing wrong with that per se. What is not fine, is not giving competitors access to the same APIs to make their products equally well integrated. I'm thinking about headphones, keyboards and similar accessories.
Yes I brought up third party apps notification guidelines that are literally in the human interface guidelines
Notifications | Apple Developer Documentation
A notification gives people timely, high-value information they can understand at a glance.
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Donnie as in the guy who actually did attack America?
I think it would be more of a flex if Apple said "we intent to nonchalantly defend this DOJ action"
From a legal standpoint that phase doesn't carry any legal meaning... though maybe it indicates that top corporate anti-trust lawyers can at least this year and for a few years raise their rates sky high and start looking at new yachts and Gulfstreams.