Wow how stupid of LG. I hope Apple gives them the finger and uses Samsung as a sole display supplier.
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Apple Sued Over 'Fast Booting' Patent Linked to LG
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This is a stupid lawsuit, suing over how a computer boots up. That is like a car company suing another for how their car starts when you turn the key in the ignition.
LG has in the recent past provided rather shoddy displays to Apple, prompting Apple to switch away from them in terms of iPad parts.
I'm curious if this is LG using a shell company because they're wimps (See Intellectual-ventures...I mean Lodsys).
Don't be so naïve. Next you'll tell me the cold war was really just a bunch of wars fought by random countries and the USA and USSR had nothing to do with it.
Don't be so naïve. Next you'll tell me the cold war was really just a bunch of wars fought by random countries and the USA and USSR had nothing to do with it.
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Wrong. Macs do not use BIOS. They have a BIOS compatibly module added for dual booting support into windows but OS X does not use it in their boot process.
Intel macs did not initially even ship with a BIOS module because OS X boots quickly from EFI and then ignores it for the rest of the process.
How do I know this? Because I bought one of the first Intel MBPs and I experimented with booting into windows with a third party hack called Re-EFIt until Apple released and update to the MBP firmware with the Bootcamp beta which I also tested.
First, any post that uses the word "fanboy" pretty much discredits the maturity of the poster.
Second, people don't always support Apple. No one supported them over the changing of in app subscriptions, and there was another recent lawsuit no one backed them on.
That being said usually when they sue its for a good reason (Samsung making the iSamsung or whatever that phone is called that looks identical to the iPhone down to the menu system).
The patent LG has A. Shouldn't even be honored it changed hands so many times and B. Should have never been granted since finding a way of doing something faster should not be patentable (since devices in labs have been doing it for years), its not a physical device that was made.
You know, I'll say I'm a Mac fangirl (as in I love my Mac and actually I love my iPhone too) but I have to admit I gotta agree with others that it seems very funny how responses in general all the sudden shift between this thread and the thread about Apple winning the case against those two android phone manufacturers.
Personally I lean towards the if they own the patent and Apple used that technology, then Apple has to pay up. Kind of like in the case with the phones.
And if people don't like it, they need to change the patent laws.
Personally I lean towards the if they own the patent and Apple used that technology, then Apple has to pay up. Kind of like in the case with the phones.
And if people don't like it, they need to change the patent laws.
My thoughts exactly. Maybe LG is trying to taunt Apple due to the patent lawsuits by Apple against other major brands.
This is an interesting one, that I generally agree with. However, I think most of the antagonism is toward groups known as "Patent Trolls" rather than the innovating companies themselves. I am perfectly happy to support LG's or any innovating companies patent claims against Apple, but third parties who do nothing but live off patents are frustrating.
Similarly, I am not sure the Apple consortium should have been allowed to buy all those Nortel patents without buying the company as a whole. Personally, I think that patents should die when the company dies, and move in to the "public domain."
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I'm going for a patent on pooping. Imagine the royalties!!
Really that's how stupid!
I'm going for a patent on pooping. Imagine the royalties!!
Really that's how stupid!
And you people wonder why people hate Apple. It's because of people like you. Just one read of this thread shows exactly why people refer to a lot of Apple customers as iSheep or Fanboys. You have no problem supporting Apple with their ridiculous patent trolling, but as soon as Apple gets sued, it's considered a pathetic practice. And when Apple loses lawsuits, you get all angry at the company that sued them. WTF?!?!? Really?!?!?!?
The irony is that the so called iSheep will be the reason for Apple's own undoing. You will continue to buy the same crap year after year from Apple, while all the real innovation comes from the real OEMs. Because of this, Apple obviously have no reason or motivation to offer industry leading devices. Apple's on top because of fashion, but no longer a leader in what is offered in the mobile world hardware wise. Yes, that's right, hardware mattes. If it didn't, then go get a 3GS. They are on the same path RIM started years back. Look where RIM is now.
The irony is that the so called iSheep will be the reason for Apple's own undoing. You will continue to buy the same crap year after year from Apple, while all the real innovation comes from the real OEMs. Because of this, Apple obviously have no reason or motivation to offer industry leading devices. Apple's on top because of fashion, but no longer a leader in what is offered in the mobile world hardware wise. Yes, that's right, hardware mattes. If it didn't, then go get a 3GS. They are on the same path RIM started years back. Look where RIM is now.
Reading these comments is hilarious. Theyre so one sided and full of extreme bias, its pathetic. It reminds me of this;
Where are all those logical comments 'Apple is only protecting their property' for LG now?
Where are all those logical comments 'Apple is only protecting their property' for LG now?
oh yeah? I don't see you expressing the same opinion when Apple alleges HTC infringes its mid 90s patents.
If people truly hated products because of their fans, Android has far more to worry about.
The fact is that it is silly to judge a company by a small subset of their users frequenting a pro-Apple site.
It's generally the responsibility of the applicant to define the patent as broadly as possible. So when a patent refers to something specific it is generally *not* assumed that the term could also apply to something more general. E.g., the patent could have referred to a firmware interface to input/output routines including by not limited to BIOS, but it didn't.
However:
* I was under the impression that Macs include an implementation of BIOS anyway, but I certainly don't know that for sure.
* Seems like a bonus patent since it is obvious. The essential mechanism is "make subsequent operations less expensive by caching the results of previous expensive operations." That's obvious to even junior software and hardware engineers. The tricky part to caching is efficient cache validation and that's not even covered in that claim. (not that tricky necessarily meets the standard of novel imo).
Well said. Bias and fanboism go hand in hand. Can't have one without the other. And these forums are full of both.
Not necessarily. (And *especially* when discussing patent claims.) If I claim a patent on a device which uses a series of gears to transfer motion from point A to point B, you can create a device which does the exact same thing, but uses a series of wheels & belts, or sprockets & chains. More importantly, if my patent hinges on the gear mechanism, your alternate method (which performs the same function) is non-infringing.
Absent any specific definitions for POST and BIOS in the patent document, they'll probably be assumed to carry industry-standard definitions, at which point BIOS and EFI are *very* distinct animals.
It's because at some point it ends up raising our prices.
Apparently you didn't read this a few posts up:
I gotta agree. Also, most MR members think Apple trying to trademark "App Store" is idiotic.
The patent system needs a massive overhaul anyway.