1. Mac's don't have POST
2. Mac's don't have BIOS (they have EFI)
Technically EFI is a BIOS. it's squares and rectangles
1. Mac's don't have POST
2. Mac's don't have BIOS (they have EFI)
You mean Macs.
Incorrect. Macs do have a POST sequence. The end of the sequence is to sound the chime if everything is OK.1. Mac's don't have POST
Can't argue with that, Macs indeed have EFI instead of a BIOS.2. Mac's don't have BIOS (they have EFI)
Can you explain in detail why the judge should invalidate this claim? You obviously have detailed knowledge on this particular patent to have made such a comment.
Macs absolutely do have POST. And they also have BIOS (they use EFI primarily, but there is also a 100% BIOS-compatible mode - how do you think people boot their Macs into Windows?).
Macs do have POST. If you fire up verbose mode on boot, you can watch it occur.
Macs absolutely do have POST. And they also have BIOS (they use EFI primarily, but there is also a 100% BIOS-compatible mode - how do you think people boot their Macs into Windows?).
people amaze me, so it's ok for Apple to sue over patents and all the fanboys support it, but when Apple gets sued all the fanboys say that Apple is incapable of intellectual theft, please....
Did you read the patent? It's just stupid, patenting the idea of faster booting a computer using BIOS and POST is a little broad don't you think?
Technically EFI is a BIOS. it's squares and rectangles
Emulation.., You install all nessecary BIOS-files when using the Bootcamp assistant to partition your hdd
However, the fact that this patent hasn't been defended or enforced for a decade would have to throw some question to the viability of this suit.
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Perhaps I should patent the IDEA of a time machine and flying cars and then sue anyone who actually makes them. :/
First let me say I believe this is a bogus patent, everything back to Windows 95 with plug-n-play kept track of what hardware was previously found on the system to reduce detection time on boot...
But when it comes to BIOS and EFI... what is in a name? They are both firmware that provides basic hardware services during boot to an operating system during its initial loading stages. The exact name would likely not matter, as the patent itself was created before EFI existed. I wouldn't put too much of a defense on whether or not the mac has a BIOS - A BIOS and an EFI rom provide the same boot services and therefore would likely be considered the same by the court.
That's false. BIOS is built-in to the bootloader on all modern Macs (if you remember, when Boot Camp originally came out, it required a firmware update).
As users have pointed out in this very thread, EFI itself is a type of BIOS (basic input/output system), just not the same type as what is used in PCs. However, the PC-type is also present in the Mac's firmware.
First, LG isn't behind this. They sold the patent to a patent troll (probably because they thought it was worthless themselves).
Second, reading through the claims, it is quite clear that Apple doesn't do what the patent claims. The patent says: You boot a computer, then immediately after the boot you take the memory state and state of hardware and write it to disk. Then when you boot again, instead of going through the boot process, you just read the memory from disk and restore the hardware state from disk. (Hundred percent sure that Apple doesn't do any of these. Mostly because it is a rubbish idea in the first place). Then you check whether your config files are unchanged and if not you are in a mess that needs cleaning up (which is _why_ the patent is a rubbish idea), which is again more rubbish because the Mac doesn't have Windows config files.
So this patent may very well be valid; good luck finding anyone doing what the patent says.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
App Store anyone?