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Apple Sues SoC Startup Rivos for Poaching Employees and Stealing Trade Secrets
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I think they're willing to take that as a fall-back position, but their preference in the filing is for Great Sacks of Money, Now.
High rate or not, it sounds like someone was incentivized to go elsewhere... and also decided to steal stuff that wasn't theirs.
The PCs of the engineering company I am working for don’t even allow you to use a USB drive so I’m kind of surprised Apple allows this.
The thing is if Apple really has evidence that theft was committed they would have reported it to law enforcement, probably the Santa Clara County Sheriff. Maybe they did but I don’t see any mention of it in the article.
if you are employed, you might want to re-read your contract of employment ...
knowledge in your head acquired while on employment to help eg building a product does not belong to you
“Happy Employees” can be just as motivated by greed as any employee - I would imagine that the barter for intellectual property and the ability to technologically leap-frog much of the industry and catchup to Apple offeres some very nice perks and financial incentives. People don’t leave those positions at the world’s most valued company just to get a better employee cafeteria. Apple has countless satisfied employees, and more trying to land a job there everyday. And you can bet employees have left Rivos too. And, importantly, what employee “want’s for nothing”? I would argue that EVERYONE wants something more than what they have, in some measure (unless they truly lack drive and ambition). The question is, what would some people do to get the ”more” that they want for.
Between July 26, 2021 and July 29, 2021, Mr. Wen transferred approximately 390 gigabytes from his Apple-issued computer to a personal external hard drive.
That must've taken forever considering the M1's USB speeds
About 12 minutes.
Every organisation has their rotten eggs. No point trying to justify or rationalise their actions as somehow being the fault of “the system”.
EDIT: assuming it is indeed a negative outcome and a guilty endeavor, not just apple trying to apply scare tactics to previous ex-employees
At least me personally wouldn’t want to work for this company, nor its founders nor the people that are joining and found with dirty hands. Not there nor now nor anywhere else for the foreseeable future, no matter the amount of money. Why people risk it is beyond me.
I find it mind boggling the lengths people go to justify theft, crime and worse while hoping they get away with it because in their heads the world is only seen as the oppressed and the oppressor, nothing else. Doing illegal things against said “oppressor” is sadly justified.
In the video game industry, contracts imply that you can’t work for another video game company until after a year has passed since the last day on a previous one, due to competition and the fact that experience goes straight into the new one.
But this is complete bollocks, “can’t work for a year” is too vague and punishing, so nobody complies and to my understanding it is non enforceable.
It is badly off putting from the get go that a new company or hiring opportunity starts with such wrong footing… this will backfire, as it is such a deterrent.
At least me personally wouldn’t want to work for this company, nor its founders nor the people that are joining and found with dirty hands. Not there nor now nor anywhere else for the foreseeable future, no matter the amount of money. Why people risk it is beyond me.
Your reply to “karma for Apple”, kudos to you.
I find it mind boggling the lengths people go to justify theft, crime and worse while hoping they get away with it because in their heads the world is only seen as the oppressed and the oppressor, nothing else. Doing illegal things against said “oppressor” is sadly justified.
Interesting, I guess that a some point if someone’s job is fenced out (i.e. an engineer whose work is to do V8’s and can’t work anywhere because of patents, can’t design them, can’t talk them, can’t do anything basically) then that person should be compensated for the time being?
In the video game industry, contracts imply that you can’t work for another video game company until after a year has passed since the last day on a previous one, due to competition and the fact that experience goes straight into the new one.
But this is complete bollocks, “can’t work for a year” is too vague and punishing, so nobody complies and to my understanding it is non enforceable.
Just goes to show, privacy and security huh. Why would anyone trust iCloud is beyond me.
Yes, and they've also got a problem if they are poking into people's iCloud accounts to get evidence. That will blow a big hole in their "Apple is privacy and security" mantra.
Good question. Either because those those companies understand privacy and security, so it doesn't happen; or it does happen, and you're not reading MSRumors or SamsungRumors?
Bonuses with conditions. Big difference to simply improving pay and conditions, and improving working vibe, so that people want to stay. I mean, there is something that smells about Apple. They make great products. But there is a stench.They have been. Remember the bonuses Apple was offering. That's alot of money.
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Yeah, I noticed that. But we already knew it was BS, thus why we noticed.
the article didn’t say Apple saw the content of the user’s data in the cloud. They probably simply see the storage use by user and can correlate a “massive data-dump” to and from the account with a corresponding work time. the amount of storage consumed is going to of course be tracked/monitored. How else would you know if a user is at or over a plan limit. That is not a privacy violation. Circumstantial evidence such as this, especially when it exists in multiple forms, can lead to very concrete conclusions.
Corporate espionage is nothing new, and is probably more prevalent now in high tech industry, especially in companies like Apple. Right now, Apple Silicon is the magic that everyone is eyeing for.
All we need to see if somebody, a competitor, suddenly buys this company and have a very competitive alternative to the M1 out of nowhere.
All we need to see if somebody, a competitor, suddenly buys this company and have a very competitive alternative to the M1 out of nowhere.
Former apple employees with sensitive data that enjoy Rivo with stock options.
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For those in the back who can't see it:
Poaching engineers is fine, stealing trade secrets is not.
You'd burn a massive amount of your own money to spite... someone else?
That would really teach them