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I'm not suggesting that the gripe isn't legitimate, but is that 1.5" THAT big a deal? To some, obviously yes. I just don't think Apple cares, nor do I think they're going to one day care. Their laptop line is complete. You either get on board...or you don't. One of the perils of being an Apple customer!

Yeah, I've accepted it, I just figure having spent such hideous amounts of money on their products over the last couple decades, I get to bitch a little :D
 
This is so funny...

The people behind this... Gates, Ballmer, IBM, Motorola, Xerox Parc, that uhh that guy who invented the ipod and didn't get any royalties? I'm sure I forget some but those are the people that come to mind this moment.
 
Interesting, because I find their product line more compelling than ever. I love good design. I'm thrilled with the overall design of the iMac. I really don't see how anyone is going to improve upon the concept and form factor. It's absolutely beautiful.

I've been holding out for a 15" Air. I love the idea of a lightweight laptop. I have no need for a DVD drive when I travel, for example. But I want a bigger screen. Although my resolve is crumbling and I have a feeling an Air is in my near future. :)

I'd pay $2,000US without blinking I could get an Air with the footprint of a 12" PowerBook, in black, with a matte screen. Maybe even more if it had a version of OS X without all the bloat :p
 
And I want the guts of a Ferrari in my Toyota. It certainly doesn't cost the premium that Ferrari charges to actually make those engines and components ... why won't Ferrari just open up and license their technology?

It's just not fair! ;)


If you somehow came across a Ferrari engine and it fit in your Toyota there would be nothing stopping you from doing it as far as I know.
 
why would ms or gates be behind this ? they have almost 100% of the market on pc's shipped. allowing mac os x on there would hurt them.

my guess is that it is dell or hp.
 
I certainly hope Apple keeps pushing this line in court. They'll look a right bunch of chumps. The DMCA addition was desperation. It just doesn't apply.

This is beyond desperation.

If only Apple hadn't changed to making PC clones and trying to limit OS X to their machines, by EULA... talk about dumb.

And now they're going to pay. The EULA is going to be declared invalid in court, and everyone is going to get their Mac netbook ! It just won't be made by Apple... because they're too up themselves to serve their customers needs. (We make a netbook, it's called the MacBook Air... right...)

If people want to buy a leaf-blower and run OS X, that's a sale of OS X for Apple that THEY were never going to get anyway. Somebody wants a quiet, quality machine that won't let them down... they'll buy Apple.

Apple is under no obligation to support crap PC hardware, but if manufacturers make something to Apple's standard, let them sell OS X. Might even improve the general standard of PC's too.

Now that's a legacy worth having, Apple.

Bullsh**, just look at microsoft. People make crappy PC hardware that can't run Vista well and everyone bitches (granted I can't say much for Vista in general). I'm sure there are some high-end, expensive machines that run vista swell, but the masses don't see that. Apple opens Mac OS X to everyone, and then suddenly someone is bitching about something and that will fall on Apple. Open your eyes. Apple makes their hardware and develops their software to compliment the hardware and make a PRODUCT. A product is the sum of it's components and only companies that work hard to differentiate their components can get ahead of the others. Apple's intellectual property is hard-earned and paid for in R&D and programmers' mental abuse (haha). Machining unibody laptop parts from solid aluminum? Yeah, that costs more. But the results are really darn impressive and hence a small price increase on the new MacBooks. But man, talk about improving their product. Adding all the little pieces that make people want Mac. And you want them to rip out one of those star components that they worked hard on and hand it out to everyone else. Get real.
 
I'd pay $2,000US without blinking I could get an Air with the footprint of a 12" PowerBook, in black, with a matte screen. Maybe even more if it had a version of OS X without all the bloat :p

Just a tad specific, ne? :rolleyes:

But I do think Apple is planning a netbook, so you might get something close.
 
Just a tad specific, ne? :rolleyes:

Only wants and wishes tend to be unspecified. Needs as in "tools" on the other hand, tend be rather specific.

But I do think Apple is planning a netbook, so you might get something close.
Yes, and if they ever came out with one, it would most likely be glass over glossy, no ports, duo-coloured and with a huge, huge bezel (as in: an 6 inch screen where a 10 inch screen would fit.
 
Not sure how long you've been a Mac user, but trust me, the cult of Jobs has been very very strong since day one. I see nothing more "radical" about Mac users today than twenty years ago. Nothing's changed! ;)

1992 or so. The cult of Jobs didn't reach this level of insanity until 2003 or so. There's a difference in being confident in the superiority of your machine and rubber stamping any and all decisions Apple made. I could give you a rational reason why my PMG3 was a much better than my neighbors Compaq or Dell. These days its so because Steve says its so whether it actually true or not. The rationalism is almost completely gone.
 
Yes, and if they ever came out with one, it would most likely be glass over glossy, no ports, duo-coloured and with a huge, huge bezel (as in: an 6 inch screen where a 10 inch screen would fit.

That's pretty much what I'm picturing, except with the same ports as the Air. You'd be disappointed, but you have to admit it would still sell. :eek:
 
That's pretty much what I'm picturing, except with the same ports as the Air. You'd be disappointed, but you have to admit it would still sell. :eek:

Yup, but so does McDonald's eat, baggy pants, hoodies, Windows, Sony "stereos", Bose, and iPhones :eek:
 
Hear it from me here first in a post a month ago

Wouldn't surprise me a bit to find out US Gov intel phony front firms are behind Psystar... their love of cutsie names they think no one will ever figure out... anyone ever hear of psyops?

They want backdoor hooks in Mac OS that Jobs has so far refused to provide... took a monopoly lawsuit against Microsoft to get Bill Gates to cave, and part of the reason Vista was such crap and Windows in general so vulnerable to attack.

Couldn't attack directly this time because Apple operates differently, so they tried a different tact.

Good luck and Godspeed to Apple AND Jobs; even the new US Admin is apparently Firm-owned and operated according to much on the net.

:apple:
 
Wouldn't surprise me a bit to find out US Gov intel phony front firms are behind Psystar... their love of cutsie names they think no one will ever figure out... anyone ever hear of psyops?

They want backdoor hooks in Mac OS that Jobs has so far refused to provide... took a monopoly lawsuit against Microsoft to get Bill Gates to cave, and part of the reason Vista was such crap and Windows in general so vulnerable to attack.

Couldn't attack directly this time because Apple operates differently, so they tried a different tact.

Good luck and Godspeed to Apple AND Jobs; even the new US Admin is apparently Firm-owned and operated according to much on the net.

:apple:

Sounds like this is a site meant for you:

http://www.dhmo.org/

:p
 
Keep an eye out for this suspicious looking guy

I think he has something to do with all this...

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:apple:
 
MS has to much to lose over being caught,just imagine the new I am a PC ads which would follow that outcome.


The best candidate would be Dell I think,mind you it could also be some company some of us have never even heard of....time will tell,or Apple could also just be bluffing.
 
There's a difference in being confident in the superiority of your machine and rubber stamping any and all decisions Apple made.
At the same time, there's a difference between critical analysis and being disappointed that a product didn't shape up the way one hoped and the hand-wringing and histrionics of the equally powerful cult of Apple Personally Wronged Me.

As much as it might shock both sides, Apple is a corporation, and neither the answer to all life's problems nor the personal destroyer of electronic paradise. They make products and money and have a demonstrated talent for doing both. They can't serve everyone, and they don't try. If they don't have something suitable, get yourself something that is. You can't always get what you want no matter how entitled to it you might feel.

Some people can't seem to get over it and feel so personally victimized by a simple business that they have to stomp around complaining about minitowers, or Apple's thin and style obsession, or the unholy evils of a deviant port connector, or Apple "monopolies" on their own products instead of just buying something that suits their needs and moving on with their lives. Life is about making choices from less-than-perfect options.
The rationalism is almost completely gone.
What little of it there was to begin with. People have never been rational about their attachments or their need to complain.
 
If you somehow came across a Ferrari engine and it fit in your Toyota there would be nothing stopping you from doing it as far as I know.


Except I think Ferrari builds their own engines in-house. Someone correct me if I am wrong. And they are not obligated to sell their engines to wanna-be companies.

I always thought there was something weird with a small company having the guts to hire a big lawyer agency. To just think there are companies like Microsoft or Dell behind all this just makes me mad. They think they have the right to steal someone else's work because they are finally realising that Apple is a big player and a real threat. Apple better win or I will have no faith in our court system.
 
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