Apple Suggests Possible Conspiracy Behind Psystar

[ProwlingTiger]

My prediction: Imagine the legal implications if Microsoft is behind Pystar, which all of will remember me suggesting and everyone thinking.

Back when Apple did licensing, they nearly went belly up. They SUCCESSFULLY shut down that deal, and survived. Guess who spearheaded that operation.

Now, Microsoft is suffering. Not bad yet, but with their marketshare tanking, and AAPL on the rise, their latest OS was all but a success....The time was right for this. Microsoft is going in for the kill. The realize that Apple's OS sells their hardware. Apple's hardware sell account for 30~% of their profit. No exclusive Apple OS, stock WILL fall. Pystar will cut Microsoft a kickback if this happens.

If Apple wins however, Apple could hit MSFT where it hurts.


Moderator, please bookmark this post in case of it's startling accuracy. I could be wrong, but who would be surprised if it is Microsoft?

 

[tonyl]

This is more and more interesting, looking forward to seeing the final results.

 

[SydneyDev]

pastry is an anagram of pystar...and steve ballmer likes pastries. Coincidence? I think not.

Psystar also = "r patssy" ("are patsy")

A patsy is "a person upon whom the blame for something falls; scapegoat; fall guy."

 

[robbyx]

My prediction: Imagine the legal implications if Microsoft is behind Pystar, which all of will remember me suggesting and everyone thinking.

Quite the opposite! If Microsoft is behind Psystar, it's suicide. If Psystar wins, that means every PC manufacturer can offer OS X the next day. Microsoft loses big-time. Suddenly Dell asks each new customer, "Do you want Snow Leopard or Windows Vista pre-installed?" Think about it.

The only way the PC companies break free of the Microsoft monopoly is to release OS X from her gilded, er, aluminum, cage. Microsoft definitely does not want to see that happen!

Moderator, please bookmark this post in case of it's startling accuracy. I could be wrong, but who would be surprised if it is Microsoft?

I'd be shocked.

 

[MacFly123]

I think that this guy looks awfully suspicious:

Do you think that he might have had something to do with it?

Haha, I seriously would NOT be surprised. That was the first thing that came to my mind.

I think the new "Windows" Mojave project is a little more sneaky than we thought

 

[Sun Baked]

My prediction: Imagine the legal implications if Microsoft is behind Pystar, which all of will remember me suggesting and everyone thinking.

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Moderator, please bookmark this post in case of it's startling accuracy. I could be wrong, but who would be surprised if it is Microsoft?

MSFT needs a viable competitor as defined by the feds in order to have the antitrust handcuffs lifted.

If they shoot the one competitor on the way to moving towards the marketshare they need to get MSFT out of the antitrust straightjacket, that would be rather stupid. And likely to get them immediately in trouble with the DOJ.

 

[cameronjpu]

I don't think monopoly means what you think it means.

So what else is new

 

[tonyl]

Apple can barely keep Leopard stable on under 100 fixed devices and you want them to open it up to the world? Yeah, I went there, I only use Macs personally and I find Windows abhorrent from a user experience point of view, but Vista IS stable. Leopard kernel panics on a wide variety of machines at work while the Vista machines are rock solid, and Leopard's networking is abysmal compared to Windows. Not to mention Finder is garbage compared to Explorer.

For stability, XP is slightly better from my experience. Vista is slower than XP. another thing is about the hunger for memory, 512MB is terrible for 10.4 and 10.5, while XP is quite happy on it.

 

[rstansby]

i assume you do a lot of editing because of your distaste for glossy. i myself have no problem with glossy, my display is glossy so...

I don't do much (graphics) editing, but I prefer a matte display so I don't have to look at reflections all day.

That doesn't mean Apple has to make matte displays, but I am still allowed to have my preference. Aren't I?

 

[9Z Electronics]

so how come microsoft dont sue apple for using windows on there machines???

You cannot be serious, right?

I am sorry for the educational system of this country.

D

 

[Michael CM1]

Quite the opposite! If Microsoft is behind Psystar, it's suicide. If Psystar wins, that means every PC manufacturer can offer OS X the next day. Microsoft loses big-time. Suddenly Dell asks each new customer, "Do you want Snow Leopard or Windows Vista pre-installed?" Think about it.

The only way the PC companies break free of the Microsoft monopoly is to release OS X from her gilded, er, aluminum, cage. Microsoft definitely does not want to see that happen!



I'd be shocked.

That's a neat theory until you take a look at the gobs of applications that only run on Windows. That's the opiate that Microsoft has fed to the masses, and people with specialized software (businesses) have a hard time even upgrading, let alone totally changing systems. If the computer world was nothing but home users, Apple would probably have a much bigger market share. But when you're talking about companies that use software for a decade or longer, it takes time to prove you're worth a huge switch.

 

[Mjmar]

If it is Dell and they somehow manage to sell their hardware with Mac OSX then people will be forced to use iPods

 

[goodcow]

Yes, I'm a troll, with my MacBook Pro, Time Capsule, Apple TV, iPhone and iPod Touch.

 

[ProwlingTiger]

Quite the opposite! If Microsoft is behind Psystar, it's suicide. If Psystar wins, that means every PC manufacturer can offer OS X the next day. Microsoft loses big-time. Suddenly Dell asks each new customer, "Do you want Snow Leopard or Windows Vista pre-installed?" Think about it.

The only way the PC companies break free of the Microsoft monopoly is to release OS X from her gilded, er, aluminum, cage. Microsoft definitely does not want to see that happen!



I'd be shocked.

NO, with no MAC sells, just how do you think Apple will fund MAC OS development. Sure, Microsoft would take a brief hit. And even though Apple is stronger than in the early 90's, what with the iPod/iPhone and all, they still need MAC sells.

Once Apple is weak, Microsoft will release their new "cloud" operating system and a variety of other Ace's in the hole, and they WILL slaughter Apple.

Apple MUST win. Oh, if I'm right, yall, I've had a great many predictions digitally signed, and mail certified, etc. I'm the modern day Demetrius lol.

That's how confident I am.

I truly hope it isn't Microsoft, as it will get ugly fast. But who else would have ulterior motives? And the dinero to back it up?

 

[NT1440]

Yes, I'm a troll, with my MacBook Pro, Time Capsule, Apple TV, iPhone and iPod Touch.

Well when you claim leopard is somehow hugely unstable and EXPLORER of all things on windows is good (mine crashes, i kid you not because I had a tally going for a while, an average of 8 or so times a day, on vista) it does seem kinda trollish.

 

[zap2]

Apple can barely keep Leopard stable on under 100 fixed devices and you want them to open it up to the world? Yeah, I went there, I only use Macs personally and I find Windows abhorrent from a user experience point of view, but Vista IS stable. Leopard kernel panics on a wide variety of machines at work while the Vista machines are rock solid, and Leopard's networking is abysmal compared to Windows. Not to mention Finder is garbage compared to Explorer.

10.5 is also stable, clearly you've had some issue, but the majority have not. Your personally story's are 1 out of billions of computers, it doesn't prove a large point.

Finder is garbage compared to Explorer? Thats a personal call, but I happen to be on the other side, I can't stand Explorer(has such an IE7 feeling to it!)

 

[SPUY767]

10.5 is also stable, clearly you've had some issue, but the majority have not. Your personally story's are 1 out of billions of computers, it doesn't prove a large point.

Finder is garbage compared to Explorer? Thats a personal call, but I happen to be on the other side, I can't stand Explorer(has such an IE7 feeling to it!)

I can get things down a hundred times faster in finder than I can in explorer, and I use windows all day long at work.

 

[LeoNobilis]

Oh my, oh my what does'nt a healthy dose a day of paranoia do for you =)

Anyway, who would want to buy unsupported hardware anyway?

Come on, don't you know that the average Windoze user has little concern for what is supported and what is not?
PsyStar, or whatever they call themselves, may more than likely be the first so-called "company" to infringe upon OS X's/Apple's rights, and sure as day many would follow! Every single one of them, as a matter of fact!
Think about it: Micro¢oft and quite a number of its affiliated hardware manufacturers (OEMs, etc.), copycats or not, are undergoing hell as OS X and Apple gain popularity day after day (whereof as an OS X/Apple Elitist and a true Fan I'm in no measure a proponent - quite the contrary - but I'll keep it out of my argumentation as it's irrelevant).
Of course, OS X is too good, too beautiful to run in an ugly, cheap-quality-plastic-monitor/box combination, and lack support, too, but herds of Windoze boys with no sense of aesthetic propriety or care for support or lack thereof would go for it like maggots for a rotten flesh!
I hope Apple manages to resolve the issue becomingly: they know better, and have the soundest reasons to reserve OS X's use/OS implementation to themselves and defend it fiercely...

How else do you explain Apple's failure up till now to win so evident a case!

 

[robbyx]

That's a neat theory until you take a look at the gobs of applications that only run on Windows. That's the opiate that Microsoft has fed to the masses, and people with specialized software (businesses) have a hard time even upgrading, let alone totally changing systems. If the computer world was nothing but home users, Apple would probably have a much bigger market share. But when you're talking about companies that use software for a decade or longer, it takes time to prove you're worth a huge switch.

Michael Dell has said he'd offer OS X the day it was available.

I'm not suggesting that suddenly no one would use Windows. BUT, if all of Dell's customers had a CHOICE, don't you think a measurable number would choose OS X? And don't you think that people who can't afford Macs - but want them - would go for OS X? Finally, shocking as it may seem to us Macheads, but I'm sure Dell has plenty of brand loyal customers too. They might be interested in OS X, but they want to stick with Dell.

Bottom line, if Psystar wins, Microsoft is a loser too. PC companies can start offering OS X and that means fewer Windows licenses.

 

[macsimcon]

Not a conspiracy

First, when you file a lawsuit against a corporation, you typically name the defendants as "XYZ Corporation, and Does 1-100" so that you can easily add other defendants in the future as you discover them. It does NOT mean that you suspect some nefarious shadow organization is behind the Defendant, it just makes it easier to expand the lawsuit as needed.

Second, the DMCA is not going to send anyone to jail at Psystar; companies don't get put in jail for criminal violations, they get fined. It's terribly unfair that individuals go to jail for criminal convictions, and not companies, but that's the way it goes.

Lastly, like all software EULAs, there's no way to agree to Apple's EULA before you buy the software, because you're only exposed to the EULA once you purchase it. Have you ever tried opening software, and then returning it? They'll never give you your money back, only store credit, even if you claim that you didn't agree to the EULA.

As far as I know, this policy has never been tested in court, and it should be. No one should be forced to enter into a contract (the purchase of the software) without knowing and agreeing to the terms and conditions BEFORE the purchase is made, not after.

If a court invalidates Apple's EULA on these grounds, it would invalidate Microsoft's and everyone else's, because they all do it the same way.

 

[robbyx]

NO, with no MAC sells, just how do you think Apple will fund MAC OS development. Sure, Microsoft would take a brief hit. And even though Apple is stronger than in the early 90's, what with the iPod/iPhone and all, they still need MAC sells.

Once Apple is weak, Microsoft will release their new "cloud" operating system and a variety of other Ace's in the hole, and they WILL slaughter Apple.

Apple MUST win. Oh, if I'm right, yall, I've had a great many predictions digitally signed, and mail certified, etc. I'm the modern day Demetrius lol.

That's how confident I am.

I truly hope it isn't Microsoft, as it will get ugly fast. But who else would have ulterior motives? And the dinero to back it up?

How old are you?

 

[goodcow]

Well when you claim leopard is somehow hugely unstable and EXPLORER of all things on windows is good (mine crashes, i kid you not because I had a tally going for a while, an average of 8 or so times a day, on vista) it does seem kinda trollish.

And I'll easily back those claims up then, but don't go and call me a troll just because somebody doesn't think Leopard and Finder are these amazing gifts Apple has bestowed upon us that are perfect from Lord Steve.

I work on at a college as a "digital content manager," meaning myself and a team of student interns whom I supervise go around campus archiving events in HDV and editing in Final Cut Pro, converting for the web, making promotional videos, etc.

We have two quad core G5s and I have an octo-core (2x4) MacPro. The G5s kernel panic about once every two weeks or so, and I'm almost positive it has to do with networking issues (all our servers are Windows and Linux NAS devices), but the point is, Leopard's networking stack is buggy. My MacPro has two, 2TB GRAID units connected via FireWire 800, and a lot of the time, the other systems can't see them, because Leopard has issues sharing external drives over a network. I don't know if this is because they've basically given up on the PPC code or not, but there are serious work related stability problems I deal with in regards to Leopard.

In regards to Finder, here's a list of flaws compared to Explorer just off the top of my head:

- no way to quickly "get to" a deep down folder structure, because there's no path bar to copy/paste the location to/from. I know you can drag the little folder from one Finder window into another to "jump" to that path, but it's a pain, and half the time you can't grab it properly
- no cut and paste
- when Finder is generating thumbnails for media files (which it doesn't even cache, so it has to do this EVERY FRICKIN TIME) if you want to rename a file, it'll stop the rename process while you're typing once it gets to the next file in the window it needs to generate a thumbnail for. So if you have hundreds of files in there that need thumbnails generated for, you essentially can't rename things until it's done. WHY ISN'T THIS FIXED?
- anytime I want to save something and it defaults to column view, there's no way to make it auto-expand the column length for the necessary width required to show the longest file name
- search is totally busted. Why does it always default to showing the results of the entire system? If I'm typing specifically in a Finder window to search for something and not universally using Spotlight it should default results to just that damn folder (or window) and its sub-folders
- you can't even sort search results by size
- in Vista you can set literally HUNDREDS of different columns to sort things by. Megapixel, sure? You can do it. Give us the option.
- give Finder a small to large view slider like iPhoto for window management

Again, that's just off the top of my head.

 

[LeoNobilis]

I can get things down a hundred times faster in finder than I can in explorer, and I use windows all day long at work.

Concur, absolutely!
Lack of tabbed browsing aside, Finder does not deserve the criticisms of many a nagger! Of course, there's no contest between the Finder and the Windoze Explorer!

 

[huntercr]

Hope the Groklaw guys are better in making legal references than references to literature.... Alice said "Curiouser and curiouser".

So even if you assume the Groklaw author knew this and was adapting it, that should be "interester and interester", which is equally silly.

If one must try to link "interesting", go for a "Laugh in" reference; you'll sound more worldly ( and by worldly I mean "old" )


/ or you'll sound... stupid

 

[robbyx]

And I'll easily back those claims up then, but don't go and call me a troll just because somebody doesn't think Leopard and Finder are these amazing gifts Apple has bestowed upon us that are perfect from Lord Steve.

I agree with you and I'm a 25 year Apple customer. I have TONS of networking issues with Leopard in my home (iMac, NAS, Airport Extreme, and iDisk). And Finder is weak, very weak. I'd rather have NEXTSTEP's old Workspace Manager back any day! The Cocoa Finder...15 years ago. At least it didn't hold my entire machine hostage when something network-related happens.