spazzcat
macrumors 601
And if someone owned a patent on that, you bet your sweet a$$ Apple would be getting sued...
Apple Suing Motorola Over Design of Xoom Tablet
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And if someone owned a patent on that, you bet your sweet a$$ Apple would be getting sued...
spazzcat
macrumors 601
If it wasn't for Apple there wouldn't be a Xoom...
faroZ06
macrumors 68040
I know, especially the Xoom. Why bother suing such a bad product? They should leave it in production to reduce Motorola's credibility. Even my friend, a blind Droid/Google fan, still thinks that the Xoom is horrible.
cliveren13
macrumors member
thak god
thank god i gave p my ipad for a Samsung Galkaxy tab apple is getting out of hand they dont own the world wouldnt use an apple product again people will begin to call you all cry babies go make products that compete and stop trying to sue everyone outthere
thank god i gave p my ipad for a Samsung Galkaxy tab apple is getting out of hand they dont own the world wouldnt use an apple product again people will begin to call you all cry babies go make products that compete and stop trying to sue everyone outthere
Epsilon G3
macrumors newbie
I happen to have a Dell Latitude XT tablet (running Windows Vista, bleh), which my father described as looking "just like the iPad, except for the keyboard". So, um, people are easily confused I guess?
Nevertheless, aren't there practical benefits to having a black bezel (contrast with the content on the screen)? Which would seem to make it ineligible for being mere trade dress. (And of course, unlike the iPad, Motorola tosses a big "MOTOROLA" logo on there...)
Nevertheless, aren't there practical benefits to having a black bezel (contrast with the content on the screen)? Which would seem to make it ineligible for being mere trade dress. (And of course, unlike the iPad, Motorola tosses a big "MOTOROLA" logo on there...)
cms2
macrumors 6502
The entire point of a patent is to encourage innovation. Why spend the time/money to come up with something new, just so your competition can piggyback for free?
Oh. What grmatt said.
Consumer confusion is more an issue for trademarks than for patents. If someone released an iPadd or something, that wouldn't be a patent issue, but a trademark issue and the basis would be consumer confusion.
*LTD*
macrumors G4
Apple's been the one doing pretty much all the major innovating in consumer tech for the last few years. The question really is what they'll come up with *next.*
Perhaps Moto and Samsung et all should actually do some real work and become the first-mover for a change with awesome products that create and redefine entire markets.
As it stands it's Apple doing everyone else's work for them.
faroZ06
macrumors 68040
Yeah, but that's not a reason to sue. If it weren't for Ford, there wouldn't be Toyota (but I wish they could sue Toyota for that).
Icaras
macrumors 603
Digital picture frames don't look like the iPad in my opinion. These do. The form factor may be similar, but does every other tablet need rounded corners and a thick black bezel? And yea, I'm still being serious here.
Take your laptop and Macbook analogy. Sure, the form factor is essentially the same, but there's almost no mistaking the design of an Apple design against the others. Rounded edges, uniform sized bezel, chiclet keyboard, streamlined port layout, button-less trackpad, and last but definitely not least, a unibody chassis. I can spot a Macbook miles away in any TV commercial, show, or film. It's just a cultural icon. Just like the iPad.
There are many ways one could differentiate from the originator. All you need is a little imagination in creativity and less copying machine business strategy. This is the difference between brilliant design and everything else.
*LTD*
macrumors G4
To make an example of them. That is the point. It is not to extract $ from them.
It's also being done to build a case for future litigation, for the same reason.
Anyone else notice that since MacRumors started posting these patent disputes as front page news that:
1) posts are a lot more aggressive with the conflicting nature of Apple v whoever
2) fanboys are out on both sides and there is little constructive debate (see posts above of, "can't innovate, litigate" versus "can't innovate, copy")
3) people simply don't understand either the complex nature of patent litigation, or believe they know it all. This leads to people thinking one side has 'won', when in reality, both sides will settle and continue their commercial relationships.
I believe we need a 'page 2' for this type of news, where interested parties can head. Right now, our community can look a tad ridiculous arguing over complex patent disputes as if we have the inside scoop.
1) posts are a lot more aggressive with the conflicting nature of Apple v whoever
2) fanboys are out on both sides and there is little constructive debate (see posts above of, "can't innovate, litigate" versus "can't innovate, copy")
3) people simply don't understand either the complex nature of patent litigation, or believe they know it all. This leads to people thinking one side has 'won', when in reality, both sides will settle and continue their commercial relationships.
I believe we need a 'page 2' for this type of news, where interested parties can head. Right now, our community can look a tad ridiculous arguing over complex patent disputes as if we have the inside scoop.
Well, Apple did sue NYC for using the name Big Apple and lost. Somethings never change.
faroZ06
macrumors 68040
A Vista tablet? Wow, that must suck.
And I agree, the bezel is not a real design aspect that you can sue over.
faroZ06
macrumors 68040
There is page 2, actually. The news there is not as interesting.
ChazUK
macrumors 603
Oletros
macrumors 603
Mmm, yes if they want to be ergonomic
andrewlgm
macrumors 6502
it seems apple is going to have to sue everyone in the world. Have they not gone to an ATT store? Every phone maker is making touch screen phones which look very much like an iPhone. All tablets look very much like an iPad. And most computer makers are now attempting to copy the air or the pro. Look at HP.
Thomas2006
macrumors 6502
Maybe Apple's plan is to keep competitors out while they get their foot in the door and become the dominate player. Once Apple can get people developing for the iPad then it will be that much harder for the others to get people to also develop for their tablets. If, after months, or even years, the injunction is overturned, then Apple pays for damages to the other companies, but will continue to enjoy their dominance.
With the billions at their disposal, Apple has the luxury to view fines/penalties in the 100's of millions as just another expense. Why else would Apple not pay dividends to the shareholders? Any money invested in R&D for the iPhone/iPad/iOS has been made back many times over, especially since a lot of the technology in iOS was already being used in OS X.
faroZ06
macrumors 68040
Actually, that reminded me of something. There is an HP laptop out there that looks almost EXACTLY like a MacBook Pro. I can't really find an image right now because of how many different HP laptops there are, but I saw it at Staples.
They copied every design feature of the MacBook Pro except for the keyboard, which is white. Apple needs to sue them.
faroZ06
macrumors 68040
The iPad came from the iPod Touch, not the idea of a tablet. The idea was new. In fact, Apple doesn't even call it a tablet.
Icaras
macrumors 603
And that didn't stop Motorola from designing the Razr phone, which was wildly popular at the time. How ergonomic was that?
