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It disgusts me that people have zero faith in our country anymore and think nobody can do these jobs.

Its not that nobody thinks Americans can do these jobs, but people want better jobs. Manufacturing jobs are not that great. Long hours, stress on the body and crappy pay.

We are supposed to be a first world nation.
 
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What is he bringing back? When was the United States ever the hot bed of electronics manufacturing? I don’t want to go back to the 1950s (or earlier).

Some people still whine. Give credit where the credit is due even if you do not like the person who pushed, and shamed others to get these jobs in the country.

Manufacturing jobs is still better than all the waiter jobs we created the last 8 years. Read some economics books, maybe you'll understand.
 
Or maybe their livelihood has been factory work for generations (which was a good paying job that supported a family) and bringing it back.
Bringing it back from where? Unless you mean replacing one factory job with another?
 
You do realize that some of that nonsense with respect to Foxconn has been grossly blown out proportion by the liberal media. For example people commit suicide all over the world, yet for some reason a couple of suicides in China get blown out of proportion. Mind you that is in a country with a historically low suicide rate. Here in the USA we have had suicides from workers at the plant I worked at, the only difference is that they did so off property. We also have had people stabbed right in the plant. In no case was there a reason to believe management practices where responsible. In fact in one case OBAMA could rationally be blamed for letting the mentally ill in the country.


AS for knowledge corporations certainly develop a lot of knowledge over the years but there is an issue where you can stagnation without fresh input. This is one advantage of spreading your operations across the world as you end exposed to new ideas and cultures.

I do know this, in the past I did the math and the suicide rate at Foxconn was less than 10% of the Chinese national average. It's actually a pretty decent place to work in the area, which is why when they're hiring people line up in their hundreds.

Problem is people compare it with the west, they don't appreciate the cultural and financial differences between China and the America.
 
Did you read my earlier post that went into more detail on my thoughts here? I think it was actually a reply to one of yours...

I guess if you want the TL;DR, Apple's focus is and always has been on their bottom line. Once that was about nationalism. Now, it's likely they've identified a global marketing strategy as the best way to move more product. As such, it doesn't matter so much where they manufacture their products.

I'm not saying this factory is a bad thing. As I've said elsewhere, Foxconn has probably figured out how this will enable reduced cost when selling products to American consumers in the long term. As an American consumer, that might affect me directly, so I'm down. As an American, I appreciate that it might help some folks in Wisconsin get a job they need. So I'm also down. Nothing to complain about over here. I just think you're hanging an awful lot of praise on what, I suspect, was a very capitalist decision predicated on Foxconn's desire to grow.

I dont disagree,

It appears they can and Are making moves, to secure bottom line while helping the US economy.

I see no fault with both boxes being checked?
 
“These days” and thats not the way it should be for the top US company, and top brand recognized arguably, in the world.
This sentence contains a couple of statements that seem to contradict. Apple is the top recognized brand in the world, but is still primarily a US company?

That uh... m'kay.
 
This sentence contains a couple of statements that seem to contradict. Apple is the top recognized brand in the world, but is still primarily a US company?

That uh... m'kay.

How hard is that to understand? I’m really struggling to understand if you guys are serious or not, sometimes.

I’m trying to not be rude, but I also feel like I’m educating about the most basic things.

YES!

They are an American-based company (Whose headquarters are in Cupertino, California, where Cook spends most of his time, the CEO of the company, no big deal) that has a global reach because everyone wants their products, everyone, everywhere, and they make their stuff in China.

Ever heard of Coca Cola? Same deal, (Maybe minus make stuff in China)

There is nothing contradictory about stating the facts.
 
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Great news! Ignore the naysayers fixated on the precise number of jobs or lecturing us on automation or some other reason we should not try to bring any manufacturing back.

This is great news, period.
 
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Some people still whine. Give credit where the credit is due even if you do not like the person who pushed, and shamed others to get these jobs in the country.

Manufacturing jobs is still better than all the waiter jobs we created the last 8 years. Read some economics books, maybe you'll understand.
That’s some strong kool-aid your drinking if you think Foxconn decided within the last 6 months to bring a factory to the US. Of course Trump is President so he’ll take credit but I doubt he had much if anything to do with it (and I’d say the same if Obama was in office right now).
 
I'm not a real political dude, and I don't exactly love Trump... but I find it hard to imagine this would have happened had the alternative candidate won.

Apple has been talking about building a manufacturing site in the US before. Nothing new.

Not that great? Tell that to someone without a job that wants to feed their family.

With a $7.25 minium wage , you still can't feed your family.
 
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I dont disagree,

It appears they can and Are making moves, to secure bottom line while helping the US economy.

I see no fault with both boxes being checked?
Uh... we still don't have any word actually from Apple that they'll even be investing in this plant. This is a Foxconn thing. I don't think it says anything about Apple, Foxconn does a ton of business that isn't Apple.
 
Why is it so important that a Chinese company build a factory in the United States?

A. Foxconn is not a Chinese company. It's based in Taiwan. Unless you are a card carrying member of the Communist Party of China. Then I could see how you think a Taiwanese company belongs to China.

B. After decades of outsourcing and calls to reverse that trend why isn't it important that new factories are being built in the U.S.? Are you anti-blue collar worker? These jobs will pay good wages and offer benefit to Americans. How is that not an important step for the CE industry? It seems to me to be just as notable as when foreign car makers started setting up shop in the U.S.
 
Uh... we still don't have any word actually from Apple that they'll even be investing in this plant. This is a Foxconn thing. I don't think it says anything about Apple, Foxconn does a ton of business that isn't Apple.

Sure but again, no Foxconn no Apple products to scale.

Foxconn is the dominant supplier. One cant discuss supply chain without discussing Foxconn for the manufacturing segment

Of course Apple doesn’t equal Foxconn, like as in they are synonymous companies
 
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