Now who's reaching?
Foxconn makes stuff for hundreds of other companies beside Apple.
And why would Apple be interested in an LCD plant when OLED is the future?
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Apple Supplier Foxconn Confirms Plans to Build TV Display Factory in Wisconsin
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Foxconn makes stuff for hundreds of other companies beside Apple.
And why would Apple be interested in an LCD plant when OLED is the future?
yeah but that won't stop the trump sycophants on this forum from getting on their knees.
This is what baffles my mind. They think companies are making billion dollar decisions based on Trump when these decisions were made months and even years ago.
Wake up buddy it is the truth.
Think about it, why do you think the Obama administration did nothing to help inner city economies in some of the worst parts of the country? Let face it he could have done a lot including pursuing manufacturing jobs. He didn't because the party he was part of depends upon keeping people poor and regularly institute policies to keep people poor. The record is pretty clear on this.
The Democrats where the party of the old south and frankly the only thing they understand is slavery. The welfare system is their modern approach to slavery. The just wrap the program in cloths of "compassion".
I heard Steve Bannon is proposing a 44% tax on the rich. Populist pandering at its finest.
And this would not happen if Obama was president. Oh and technically he is only half black.
I dont follow/if there was supposed to be a sense of sarcasm it completely eluded me.
“Would not happen” if he was president.
no need whatsoever for conditional future statements: He was president, and it objectively didn’t happen.
To respond to your second bit, yes he’s half black but even that AGAIN doesn’t take away that he was the first black president. Further re-instating my point that NOTHING can (or quite frankly, should. That’s an objective rather obvious statement to me)
It was political policy to outsource much of manufacturing in the first place. So yeah if someone resists a turn around in political policy it can make an administration look bad. If Apple doesn't work to correct their direction then I'm really hoping that Trumps administration takes punitive actions against them. One approach would be to tax Apple for off shore earnings wether they bring them back to the USA or not.
I am also a republican and can I just say we are not all crazy like that guy ok thanks
Funny, those cheering for this are the same that previously villianized Foxconn for suicides, low wages, horrid working conditions, and slave labor practices.
At least this low pay, low education, low fit work will fit right in in Wisconsin.
At least this low pay, low education, low fit work will fit right in in Wisconsin.
Making America (and the rust belt) great again. Thank you, Mr. President. I wake up each and every single day, happier and more content. We have a real President again. Truly blessed!
Yes. Trump. Who was born into a millionaire family knows the struggle of working class Americans .
You talk as if Trump is somehow different from the republican base in terms of political ideology.
Yah, I'm trying to understand the benefit of this to Foxconn. It will likely be more expensive to run the factory, but they will save on transportation across the ocean, import taxes, and may have access to a broader range of educated workers.
We've all seen the factories in China and heard the stories. Nobody will *want* to sit there for 8 hours a day doing the same mundane task over and over again. This new factory will be highly automated in many ways, you can bet your bottom dollar.
We've all seen the factories in China and heard the stories. Nobody will *want* to sit there for 8 hours a day doing the same mundane task over and over again. This new factory will be highly automated in many ways, you can bet your bottom dollar.
It appears he would have to be different from traditional republicans, for as many establishment Republican politicians who are against him and his every move (similar to most establishment politician Democrats, of course, the opposing party/ideology on this Star Wars light side-dark side spectrum thing).... Even though republican base in terms of voters, as a separate matter of “his base,” likely voted for him over Hillary, in the end, no matter their skepticism or reservations.
Also, he was given 1 million dollars by his pops and that was it. That sounds like “that was it” is snooty, but imagine getting 1 million dropped on you to start an enterprise.
Most people would burn it away on drugs, and showing material stuff off, and paying out their “friends,” etc etc.
I think to go from 1 mill to where he is, a at the very least a marginally successful business man (people will contest, fine), and now president (another thing people contest), is quite an accomplishment. Even if you cant stand his face, hair, or hands, or the words coming out of his mouth and the tweets coming off of his little fingers.
Trump is taking us into the future. A future where people with all abilities can share in the growth of the country. Right now we live in a country where only the very wealthy have benefitted from trade with China.
As for Amazon there is plenty of talk about subjecting them to anti trust legislation but not surprisingly that isn't coming from the Trump camp.
People claim that because generally agreements on factories have to be studied, reviewed, agreements drawn up, budgets created, plans drawn up, factories built or bought, etc, etc. Of course people are going to side eye whether or not that actually happened in six months. I wouldn't necessarily attribute it to Obama, but I wouldn't attribute it to Trump, either.
That’s a rather naive non-commital position to hold, that no one is responsible.
How egalitarian of you. It came from the sky.
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That’s why its 2020 expected to roll out.
Takes several years.
Also, seems like
Plausible- guy w no biz experience did it, maybe, but not necessarily, on unfounded speculation that major moves happened during his term, which is now in the past
implausible- guy w biz experience had anything to do with it whatsoever, under his term, and expected to roll out at end of first term, completely beyond reasonable doubt
It's never about skill.
It's always about dollars and cents.
Clothing manufacturers have moved from country to country depending on where the cheapest labor is.
China decided to be a manufacturing powerhouse decades ago. They started by building plants that make screws and widgets. Then moved up the food chain.
Now it's about logistics and component sourcing.
Assembly jobs like putting together iPhones, etc are not coming back. There is no money in it.
Jobs at fabs like display manufacturing, are process engineers, along with raw materials logistic people, etc. They are going to soon find out though, that the blue color job has turned into a white color jobs and the education requirements for the highest paying jobs are not met by the existing blue color workforce.
I was not aware Foxconn even made displays - thought they came from LG and Samsung.
Is this their first display plant, period? Is the US (and Apple) subsidizing this plant?
Is this their first display plant, period? Is the US (and Apple) subsidizing this plant?
This is simply an example of the ignorance many in the forums have with respect to "factory work". For example an electrical technician might make around #30 per hour. A CNC programmer might be making $25 and lets not forget the managers, technicians, Safety departments, metrology departments, IT departments, industrial engineering and a whole host of other occupations that are needed in a modern factory. The reality is that there are a broad spectrum of employees required to keep a factory humming along.
By the way this is just the factory itself, any factory ends up providing business to the local community and its employees like wise fuel the local economy. It is really sad but people just don't get that manufacturing is a great equalizer. There are few business opportunities that provide the broad spectrum of jobs that a sizable factory does.
Everyones been leaving out the $3bn tax subsidy required to make this happen. Oh and the factory is only going to employ 3,000 people, the other 10,000 are only temp construction jobs to build it.
So for at least $3bn in tax payer dollars we get 3,000 jobs where the profits go to a foreign country and how the hell is this a good idea?
Just take the $3bn and divvy it up to the 13,000 people thats $230k per person and they can each go and start their own small business that employs people and is way the heck better than building LCD screens…
So for at least $3bn in tax payer dollars we get 3,000 jobs where the profits go to a foreign country and how the hell is this a good idea?
Just take the $3bn and divvy it up to the 13,000 people thats $230k per person and they can each go and start their own small business that employs people and is way the heck better than building LCD screens…
For people who contest whether or not this will be Obama’s to claim or Trump’s, before diving into semantics of 3k vs 13k jobs if it does in fact turn out to be his as a fallback, and big fat cheetoh liar stuff to pad it with:
Genuinely how HARD is it to believe someone who has repeatedly ripped on Apple for making all their stuff in China, before being elected and criticized for being too harsh on Apple in the past as well, is responsible for big changes whereas someone who never campaigned on that or ranted about that, and also never brought it up as a key issue during his 8 years, someone who also isnt modest popping up on every late night show possible and cares to win the public’s affection (just like how Trump isnt modest either but in a different capacity— thats a fact), would be responsible for such a big achievement?
I think thats a fun mental exercise of demonstrating how obvious the bias is in clouding whats otherwise rather obvious to correlate from a timeline of “who’s president and when will this be implemented” and historical context showing he “cared about it”-type perspective.
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Perhaps if indeed Trump is unfairly taking this one from Obama, Obama will speak up eventually and tweet “No @RealDonaldTrump that is mine.” Or something to that effect in a speech. Stranger things have happened
Genuinely how HARD is it to believe someone who has repeatedly ripped on Apple for making all their stuff in China, before being elected and criticized for being too harsh on Apple in the past as well, is responsible for big changes whereas someone who never campaigned on that or ranted about that, and also never brought it up as a key issue during his 8 years, someone who also isnt modest popping up on every late night show possible and cares to win the public’s affection (just like how Trump isnt modest either but in a different capacity— thats a fact), would be responsible for such a big achievement?
I think thats a fun mental exercise of demonstrating how obvious the bias is in clouding whats otherwise rather obvious to correlate from a timeline of “who’s president and when will this be implemented” and historical context showing he “cared about it”-type perspective.
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Perhaps if indeed Trump is unfairly taking this one from Obama, Obama will speak up eventually and tweet “No @RealDonaldTrump that is mine.” Or something to that effect in a speech. Stranger things have happened
I tend to blame some of this on young people not realizing how badly manufacturing in the USA got screwed over by government policy that benefitted the very few. The Silicon valley got its name due to manufacturing all sorts of electronic products.
By the way NAFTA is the North American Free Trade Agreement. That actually hasn't been as damaging to the USA as separate deals with the pacific Rim and China. Frankly running a business in Mexico isn't all that glamorous and easy with many companies failing. One of the reasons that China and other pacific RIM countries have done so well taking American jobs isn't that the labour is cheap bet rather that they have better infrastructure and an ethical desire to succeed. Lets face it labor is cheap in Mexico but there is not the same sort of work ethic that you see in Asian countries.
Unless the facts are incorrect. Apple is an American multinational corporation, which is different to an American-based company. Yes they have a headquarters in California but they also have a headquarters in Ireland, along with regional offices/subsidiaries in other countries.
Multinationals don't exist to boost the economy in the country they started, they help multiple economies, rather they exist to get the most benefit from each country in order to maximise shareholder returns. Around 60% of Apple revenue comes from outside the US, investors don't care where products are made as long as they get as much of that 60% as possible instead of giving half of it to various tax authorities.
We don’t know if this is true. Several times over the past several years, Gow has promised to open factories in the USA. Specific factories, but didn’t. He also promised to open them in India and other places, and didn’t. I’m not talking about nebulous plans, but specific ones.
When it happens I’ll believe it, not before.
When it happens I’ll believe it, not before.
They are a company that has to be regionally identifiable by somewhere
One COULD argue Apple is Foxconn dependent heavily so perhaps China-dependent company more than American company in a full blown sense but the reality is they were founded in America and headquartered in America, and i wont disagree with the other stuff you’re saying
This is semantics thing though, and they are ultimately an American company.
I dont know what else they could be.
It is not fallible to say Apple is an American company is my point. (They aren’t a Russia company or an Irish company, even with another headquarters in Ireland) There are many caveats to that, being an American company, of course especially with how whack and pervasive tech is, but by the end of the day that’s the only thing to call them by standards of where was a company created and where is their headquarters is, and the person who created them was an American, and founded it in a garage in California. It doesn’t get more American than that.
Sorry but this is just getting nuts nad exhausting to clarify, it feels we’re back to square one. I might need to step away from the ‘is Apple an American company?’ Sub-debate. I’m losing interest on this one,
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