Apple Suppliers Said to Begin Production of 12.9-Inch Retina Display for Early 2014 'iPad Pro'

[iRun26.2]

That's some mighty fine wishful thinking... But the 11" Air is unique. If it gets updated to 12", it will be thicker and the battery life likely won't be as good.

Wrong!

1) IGZO displays use a lot less power
2) Broadwell uses 30% less power.

There's plenty of power savings available for the 11" MBA just like the iPad Air gained.

 

[violaboy]

I'm curious as to what you would use one of these for.

I read and conduct from full orchestral scores and they are just too darn small on my current iPad. The larger one would be amazing.

 

[iRun26.2]

It's very possible we will get both.

I think they may well combine the 11" & 13" MBA into one new design 12" model.

Then add all new design 14" and 16" MBPs to replace the current 13" & 15" models.

Simply shrinking the current border around the display would be enough to increase the screen sizes without increasing the overall size of each device by too much.

But the bezels of the MBPs have already shrink (unlike the MBAs). I think 14" and 16" MBPs would require a bigger screen size.

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Almost Ultra-High Definition, or AUHD for short.

I like that! Very clever.

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Everyone who just spent hundreds of dollars getting the iPad Air can now face palm themselves. Seriously, Apple releases a new iPhone or any of their other products once a year, so why do they feel the need to release a new iPad every 6 months?

Because it is for a new market. I think the iPad Pro is not meant to compete against the iPad Air. They are very different.

 

[violaboy]

I just want ONE iPhone/iPad that will allow me to resize the entire device (using pinch gestures of course) so that I can have ANY size screen I want.

Come on Apple, where's the innovation??

 

[patent10021]

I just want an iPad for watching movies in my sofa with my girlfriend, wide screen, 4K resolution, feather light and easy to either hold or put in lap, also some option for watching in bed...

How can you watch a movie with her when she's in the shower with me?

 

[iRun26.2]

To be honest I can't see why a big iPad makes any sense. The original one does, and so does the smaller one. For some people, at least.
But such a large device goes beyond me. A Mac is about the same size, and at least it runs OS X.

Both things have different usages, and at such large screens I can't see why anyone should use an iPad instead of a Mac. The extra portability is just gone...
Yes for the current iPads, but I'm very skeptical about this one. I hope it's just a new Mac...

I'm sorry, but you are not very imaginative.

 

[cocky jeremy]

"Make just a few things, but make them Insanely Great". - SJ


iPhone 5C (yeah, that was a success... :roll eyes: ), iPad Mini, iPad Pro, etc....

Cook needs to stop expanding the lineup. Seriously.

If you don't think the iPad Mini is a success, you're crazy. It's probably more popular than the iPad/iPad Air. I just paid $500 for an Air and I'd gladly give up the $100 extra to trade it for an iPad Mini with Retina.

 

[iRun26.2]

I could see some people wanting to do all their work on a iPad Pro.

I am just fine with the MB pro, but aren't we really just talking about a Mackbook pro with a detatchable keyboard?

The big difference is ARM based iPads vs Intel based MBPs. They are two different camps that can't necessarily merge right now (Intel is still way more powerful and software is not compatible).

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I don't see Apple releasing a bigger iPad anytime soon. The iPad can do specific things better than a laptop. For everything else, a Mac makes more sense.

I think this is actually a screen for a new ultra-portable laptop, 40% thinner than the MacBook Air.

- The current MacBook Air can get up to 15 hours of battery life With Broadwell coming out soon, we will see another 20-30% in efficiency increases. A MacBook does not need 18-19 hour battery life. They can cut the battery size in half and still get around ten hours.
- IGZO displays are extremely efficient compared to today's screen panels. They can probably double the resolution while keeping the energy consumption the same.

I think the combination of Broadwell, IGZO, and 10.9/10.10 will allow Apple to make a radically thin MacBook Air with retina displays.

I sure hope you are right. I'd spend $3K for it without hesitation!

 

[tbrand7]

I'm familiar with the words. I am asking who heard Steve say them. A name of a person.

Steve admitted himself that he said it. Hence, Steve Jobs Biography.

 

[Renzatic]

Do you have a source for your claim?
I figured they used something like the sensor boards on this page:
http://wacom.jp/en/products/components/devices/sensorboard/index.html
The board there that would cover an iPad Pro size is about 0.1 lbs.

I think those are the old standalone tablet boards. What you're looking for, and what's currently being used in all the recent stylus equipped tablets, is this. Or if you prefer a less marketing spiel oriented, more tech based explanation, this.

If you want a good working example, compare the weights of the latest Galaxy Tab 10.1 vs. the latest Galaxy Note 10.1. Assuming they're completely equal in all respects save for the digitizer (which it doesn't look like they are, but we'll roll with it anyway), there's only a 35 gram difference between the two, which, according to this math thing I just fired up, is about 0.07 pounds. More than I thought, but still not a whole bunch.

Edit: I just read through a little more. The Tab Note has a bigger battery than the Tab 3, so that'll account for a good bit of the weight discrepancy between the two. How much? I dunno. But on a really wild conservative guess, I'd say the wacom digitizer adds...maybe...15 grams.

 

[Renzatic]

With the right hardware / software upgrades, everything you described can be done on an iPad Air just as well. Other than a bigger and higher-res screen, the iPad Pro doesn't offer huge advantages, if any.

Yup. There's nothing stopping Apple from adding a stylus and a bunch of extra features to the Air. I'd almost prefer it, in fact. Though I'm thinking they probably won't happen due to pricing issues. I doubt they'll do anything to push the 10" iPad beyond its traditional $499 starting point. At least not anytime soon.

 

[v0lume4]

MAYBE this is the display the Retina Macbook Air.

Maybe.

Who knows. It's nebulous.

 

[SusanK]

Steve admitted himself that he said it. Hence, Steve Jobs Biography.

Deceased. Requesting name of person corroborating alleged statement.

 

[Rad99004]

An ipad pro makes sense now due to the air's naming, but I don't know what it would be good for...artists maybe, but who else? But a retina screen for macbook air seems likely too, though with the lower grade retina in the mini, I am guessing the macbook air will suffer the same fate. But I hope apple doesn't start spreading themselves too thin.

If this ran OSX or a merging of IOS would it make more sense. My guess is this will be a Surface competitor.

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Seems kind of silly to me. If I want a 13" screen I will use my 13" MBP.

Does your MBP have a touch screen?

 

[Max(IT)]

If this ran OSX or a merging of IOS would it make more sense. My guess is this will be a Surface competitor.

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Does your MBP have a touch screen?

Do you really think Apple has to "compete" with Surface ?

 

[HarryWild]

Looks like I going to return my iPad rMini when I get it!

I was fearful of this happening but I rather wait a few more months and get a better product! iPad rMini has good resolution but the color gamut is lacking as well as no 802.11ac.

 

[DFZD]

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[Max(IT)]

I was fearful of this happening but I rather wait a few more months and get a better product! iPad rMini has good resolution but the color gamut is lacking as well as no 802.11ac.

They aren't going to release any 13" iPad, BUT I'm very puzzled about an user looking for an iPad mini that returned it to buy a totally different tablet ...

 

[DFZD]

If this ran OSX or a merging of IOS would it make more sense. My guess is this will be a Surface competitor.

Why would they merge, when iOS is a fork of OS X?

That's like saying, you make butter and then mix it back with milk.

Plus it's bad for business, why sell 1 device when you can sell two? It's also in the favour of developers, if they merge, developers will have to develop Universal apps that work on iPhone, iPad and Macbook, imagine what will happen to the download size let alone the prices.

 

[ctross]

In all honesty, I would make this my first iPad. I primarily use my girlfriends only to read magazine subscriptions, so something closer to an 8.5"x11" would make it worth having.

 

[Jensend]

I think those are the old standalone tablet boards. What you're looking for, and what's currently being used in all the recent stylus equipped tablets, is this. Or if you prefer a less marketing spiel oriented, more tech based explanation, this.

The sensor boards I linked are for displays:
http://wacom.jp/en/products/components/
(besides, is there any 3rd party product that has Wacom tech that isn't used for a display?)

This image on the second link you posted shows that the sensor is behind the LCD:
http://www.wacom-components.com/english/technology/img/emr/01.gif

But on a really wild conservative guess, I'd say the wacom digitizer adds...maybe...15 grams.

What the heck is a really wild conservative guess?

 

[rowspaxe]

imagine what a 13" version would feel like, its probably not going to be as comfortable to support in one hand. .

this would be less like an ipad and more like a win 8 hybrid. I own the sony viao duo and it is essentially a 13" tablet and i find it amazingly useful.

A niche marker? Wouldnt this product greatly appeal to students who need digitizer support for math and science? I think there is a huge market for a device like this--but it has to deliver a pen experience on par with the surface

 

[Wanted797]

Seems a bit ridiculous if it's running, either OS X or iOS if I want something that big I'd get a MBA and have more power of OS X.

Pretty much a touch screen Macbook? MacPad pro?

 

[panther quest]

Very astute. I think you hit the nail right on the head.

Sounds interesting. It looks increasingly like Apple is taking the opposite approach from Microsoft. Instead of trying to scale down a desktop operating system to run on mobile devices, they want to scale up their existing mobile OS to become more powerful. I wonder if the "iPad Pro" will have a souped up A7 or A7X?

Think about it. Mac OS, including OS X has been a niche OS for decades. iOS is the #2 mobile OS overall, close to #1 in the US, and accounts for more than half of mobile profits and mobile app downloads. There's a reason Apple was first to introduce a 64-bit ARM processor and 64-bit mobile OS. They see it as the future of computing and want to secure their place in it. It's also why they ported the iOS versions of iWork over to Mac rather than the other way around. They want to promote iOS as the future, and Macs will be "dragged along" to further interoperability.

Microsoft prefers the opposite approach, which makes sense since Windows is by far the dominant desktop OS. Hence the whole drive to push a single Windows 8.1 for desktops, notebooks, and mobile devices.

The wild card here is Google. Android is the dominant mobile OS, but Google's control over it is tenuous. Chrome is fully within Google's control, but it doesn't have the same market penetration. Logically, I see Chrome and Android converging over time, but don't know whether Google will build up Chrome so that it replaces Android, or keep the two separate, but converged, much like iOS and OS X. I think Google would prefer the former but am not sure they can get there.

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Apple needs to make the screen more pressure sensitive.

Before they make the screen more pressure sensitive they need to make it pressure sensitive first.

 

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