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This is the tablet Steve wanted from the start -- an iPad the same size as a 8.5" x 11" sheet of paper!

Law firms and other white collar employes will be all over this.

Momenta has been avenged!
 
To me this makes sense. It may have already been stated but I'm guessing it really will be called iPad Pro. Just like we now have MacBook Air and MacBook Pro, there will be iPad Air and iPad Pro. I don't personally want a screen that large (I'm an iPad mini owner) but I could see how graphics professionals might want one, or architects or engineers. Also, those with eye problems--assuming the it allows for bigger text options than current iPad Air.

My two cents.
 
Fabulous New Device

I just want an iPad for watching movies in my sofa with my girlfriend, wide screen, 4K resolution, feather light and easy to either hold or put in lap, also some option for watching in bed...

There is already a fabulous device for watching movies on the sofa with your girlfriend. It's called a TV :D
 
This is the tablet Steve wanted from the start -- an iPad the same size as a 8.5" x 11" sheet of paper!

Law firms and other white collar employes will be all over this.

Momenta has been avenged!

It really is amazing, a tablet the size of a sheet of paper with text and pics so high res they look printed. Agreed that it's what Jobs envisioned.

I'd like to see this iPad Pro combined with iOS improvements that facilitate moving documents to an iOS device more effortlessly. iCloud needs another leap in innovation for things to really take off IMO.
 
I think apple is well positioned to build a surface type device. The device could be haswell based running x86 apps natively and ios apps in emulation. Add a clever keyboard case and an active digitizer and you have the most intriguing device of 2014. Pricing starts at $1299.
 
Tbh, the rename of iPad to iPad air should have told us this was coming.

Mac Mini
MacBook Air
MacBook Pro

iPad Mini
iPad Air
iPad...

Last time I checked the Mac mini isn't a portable device. It's a desktop computer. Not sure how that applies to MacBooks at all. Is there a Mac Air coming that makes my desk weigh less?

I personally don't see the need/point of a 13" ipad unless it's running a more OS X operating system. But that could just be me.
 
Pretty much. Tablets aren't good for everything, but for the things they are good at, they're very good at.

For instance, I wouldn't want to do a spreadsheet on one, but for photo editing, drafting, modelling, or really any type of visual design, they're beyond excellent. The form factor is perfect for it. All the iPad needs is more ram and proper stylus support. Both of which an iPad Pro can (and better) provide.



I think that, at least starting out, it's not gonna be that much different of an experience. Unless Apple has some huge changes in store for iOS8, you're gonna be single apping everything, same as you do on the current iPads.

And no, it won't be quite as good at everything the iPad is due to size alone. Games in particular will suffer a bit. Angry Birds might be alright, but anything that uses virtual analog sticks will suck due to the fact that the size will make it too unwieldy to hold.

...but the larger screen and inclusion of a stylus will be what ultimately justifies it. It's a "pro" machine, designed to be a better fit for higher end tasks. The comparative weaknesses will be offset by its relative strengths. Like if you want to play games and surf the web, you've the Mini. The happy medium? The Air. Content creation? The Pro.

Though I will agree with you on one thing, for the iPad Pro to truly succeed in the long term, we'll have to see more functionality added to iOS. What it needs is the UI paradigms of iOS, and the flexibility and multitasking abilities of OSX. Being a supplementary device will only carry it so far for so long.

All good points that I can get behind. You make a good case for the iPad Pro in this capacity. Makes me want one now.
 
it's not innovative anymore cuz the genius of Apple has left earth. They can't do anything else but increasing size and 1-2 features here and there.

They will die in 5 years if they can't come up with a new innovative product.

With ~$150B in cash reserves and a revenue stream that will last for years without any innovations at all, I'm guessing you're ex-Lehman Bros? ;)
 
Could you name a few?

I could think of a few:

1. Easy switching from landscape to portrait to view full page A4 document without scrolling or zooming.

2. Graphic design work without having to use a mouse or trackpad.

3. Access to the thousands of iOS apps that are simply not available on OSX.

4. Reading interactive eMagazines, newspapers, textbooks or websites without having to scroll and zoom.

5. Better point of sale interactive displays for retailers.

6. Better experience when using it as Portable TV or watching iTunes content.
 
Do what? The iPad 2, 3, and 4 were about 1.5 pounds, give or take. The Air roughly a pound. The Mini, about 0.7. With the design advances made to the Air, assuming they build off the same bodytype, I'd peg it around 1.3 - 1.6 pounds.
The mini is about 11 grams per square inch of its display size.
The Air is about 10.4 g/in²
If the "Pro" were 10 g/in², that would be about 1.75 pounds.
If they decreased the battery life to be comparable to the 15" rMBP (8 hours) they could probably get it close to the weight of the original iPad (1.5 lbs).

But if it has Wacom or equivalent tech, which i hope it does, that will just make it heavier.
 
Using iPad Pro in the toilet

I felt uncomfortable holding the iPad 2 single handed. I am concerned that I will have the same problem with the iPad Pro.

A 13" one may be inconvenience to use in the toilet. Good if it has a phone capability.
 
How about a 3:2 3072*2048 screen?
You could run 2 classic portrait apps side-by-side.
Most pro cameras have a 3:2 sensor.
 
The changes detailed below will not only allow for Apple to expand their offerings but concurrently streamline said offerings and allow for each of their products to become identifiable and easily understood within the context of Apple's holistic product catalogue.

Much like the Mac Pro itself; Pro lines for the iPad, iPhone and iPod will be a niche product tailored towards professional and business users.

Furthermore, the name change for the iMac to the Mac Air (which fits in with the new ultra slim design) ends the name scheme anomaly and sets a clear and distinct line between what devices are intended for iOS and which for Mac OS. iOS products are distinctly marked with an "i" prefix and Mac products are similarly marked with a "Mac" prefix, with no exceptions.

The Mini, Air and Pro naming convention is universal across Apple's entire hardware product catalogue.

"iDevice" - iOS

iPad Mini (7.9 inch)
iPad Air (9.7 inch)
iPad Pro (12.9 inch) - compete with Wacom Cintiq

iPhone Mini (4 inch)
iPhone Air (5 inch)
iPhone Pro (6 inch) - compete with Galaxy Note

*notable exception iPod Nano
iPod Mini (4 inch)
iPod Air (5 inch)
iPod Pro (6 inch) - compete with Galaxy Note

Mac - OS X

Mac Mini
Mac Air (iMac renamed as it does not run on iOS and is therefore not an "iDevice")
Mac Pro

MacBook Mini (11 inch MacBook Air renamed)
MacBook Air (13 inch variant only)
MacBook Pro (15 inch variant only)
 
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The mini is about 11 grams per square inch of its display size.
The Air is about 10.4 g/in²
If the "Pro" were 10 g/in², that would be about 1.75 pounds.
If they decreased the battery life to be comparable to the 15" rMBP (8 hours) they could probably get it close to the weight of the original iPad (1.5 lbs).

It depends on what they do with the battery. The extra material and larger screen will add a bit of weight, but it'd be a relatively small amount. Assuming they were to use the same sized battery, the extra glass, aluminum, and plastic would probably add on roughly .2 - .3 pounds (on a really sloppy guess). On the other hand, if they were to fill all that new found space with one giant battery pack, it'll weigh a ton more. Easily 1.8 to 2 pounds.

I think they'd make the battery a little larger to offset the extra draw the screen will use, and suspend it in the center back directly behind the screen. It'll be heavier obviously, but I doubt Apple will want it to be too much heavier than the other iPads in the line. That'd probably be the best way to compensate.

But if it has Wacom or equivalent tech, which i hope it does, that will just make it heavier.

Not as much as you'd think. I think with the direct touch displays, they thread the stylus digitizer through the glass above the screen, much the same way they add capacitive digitizers now. Any extra hardware needed to account for pressure would be added alongside the cap hardware underneath the bezel, along the edges of the screen. Overall, I'd say the weight difference there would be negligible.
 
Costing 1,999 dollars.

(For the 16gb wifi only version).

Sounds like your grasping. It'll probably be about 25% higher than the current iPadAir's current offering, MAYBE as much as 35%, but probably not much higher than that. I don't think the market would bear much more than that. I hope it's no more than 1.5 lbs. Hopefully they'll be able to hit that weight at that price point.

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This change will not only allow for Apple to expand their offerings but concurrently streamline said offerings and allow for each of their products to become identifiable and easily understood within the context of Apple's holistic product catalogue.

Much like the Mac Pro itself; Pro lines for the iPad, iPhone and iPod will be a niche product tailored towards professional and business users.

Furthermore, the name change for the iMac to the Mac Air (which fits in with the new ultra slim design) ends the name scheme anomaly and sets a clear and distinct line between what devices are intended for iOS and which for Mac OS. iOS products are distinctly marked with an "i" prefix and Mac products are similarly marked with a "Mac" prefix, with no exceptions.

The Mini, Air and Pro naming convention is universal across Apple's entire hardware product catalogue.

"iDevice" - iOS

iPad Mini (7.9 inch)
iPad Air (9.7 inch)
iPad Pro (12.9 inch)

iPhone Mini (4 inch)
iPhone Air (5 inch)
iPhone Pro (6 inch) - compete with Galaxy Note

*notable exception iPod Nano
iPod Mini (4 inch)
iPod Air (5 inch)
iPod Pro (6 inch) - compete with Galaxy Note

Mac - OS X

Mac Mini
Mac Air (iMac renamed as it does not run on iOS and is therefore not an "iDevice")
Mac Pro

MacBook Mini (11 inch MacBook Air renamed)
MacBook Air (13 inch variant only)
MacBook Pro (15 inch variant only)

They use the term "AIR" for lightweight devices, which the iMac isn't. I think they need to come out with a MacMiniPro, which is a headless unit in the $1200 to $2500 price point that has higher end i5/i7 processors, up to 32GB of RAM, fast SSD, TB2, discrete GPU with something like 2G of VRAM or more, etc. I think that would hit the market that the MacMini and MacPro don't hit.
 
Yes and it'll be awesome as a Wacom competitor. Although the current iPad Air starts at $500 so the pro may just be near that grand.

In order to compete Wacom, the iPad must have pressure sensitivity in the glass or with a stylus designed for that reason. It's one reason why Wacom IS the king of professional tablets. Take a look at the Cintiq line they have. iPad is nothing like those devices.

So for the iPad Pro, it may go between $700 to $900 bucks considering other factors.
 
Panasonic has put on sale this 4K 20" full blown Windows 8 tablet/PC for the professional market, so this rumour of a 12" iPad Pro is more then possible I say?

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And the Surface Pro 2 in You Tube videos certainly seems capable of keeping up with the supposedly more powerful Razer Edge gaming Windows 8 tablet/ PC. So Apple could certainly get a powerful and efficient Intel chip in it.

Right. The "super" tablet is what's coming around the corner and Apple needs to do something about that area. There is no way the iPad is going to stay at 9 inches for the next 10 years.

If Apple went with a 17 inch or "Tabloid" size tablet, instead of 13 inches, it would be perfect. The 11 x 17 size is exactly the size of magazines when they open up flat on the table. And moreover, it's perfect for the exact reading scale without having to pinch and zoom PLUS it's great for graphic designers or illustrators to do page layout or creating artwork/concept art with that much room and space.

Even splitting two screens or apps the size of TWO iPad minis at once.

Hello!?! Is that SINKING in Apple's head?!
 
Sounds like your grasping. It'll probably be about 25% higher than the current iPadAir's current offering, MAYBE as much as 35%, but probably not much higher than that. I don't think the market would bear much more than that. I hope it's no more than 1.5 lbs. Hopefully they'll be able to hit that weight at that price point.

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They use the term "AIR" for lightweight devices, which the iMac isn't. I think they need to come out with a MacMiniPro, which is a headless unit in the $1200 to $2500 price point that has higher end i5/i7 processors, up to 32GB of RAM, fast SSD, TB2, discrete GPU with something like 2G of VRAM or more, etc. I think that would hit the market that the MacMini and MacPro don't hit.

Irrespective of it not being a lightweight device, it makes a lot more sense to call it a Mac Air (due to its ultra thin profile) than it does to call it an iMac, which implies a inter genus device intended for both Mac OS and iOS.
 
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