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Regarding ports these days, one thing I never understood was why Apple didn't include a Lightning to USB-C charging cable for the iOS devices. How are we to charge our phones if we only have a MacBook with USB-C? Carrying 2 charger blocks is a little redundant if you're trying to travel light.
 
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I use the SD slot pretty regularly. I use the headphone jack frequently. I also like MagSafe better than other types of power connections - my boss has the new MacBook, and I've seen that USB-C cable pull that thing across the table more than once.

I'm so glad I bought a MacBook Pro last year.

I'm also wondering if it'll be the last Mac laptop I ever have. I switched to OS X from Linux (for my personal machine, anyway) back in 2003 - on a Mac, it was easier to get the work I needed to do done. But, little by little, they're hell-bent on making it more difficult to do actual anything but play Angry Birds. I don't want to have to hunt around for a card reader every time I need to download photos for someone. And bluetooth headphones while working on video? Forget that - the frequent sync issues make that a non-starter.

Do they all really not care, or does Mr. Ive just have too much say in things?
 
I use my 3.5mm plug every day at work. That said, a lightening to 3.5mm adapter would make zero difference.

In my music studio I literally NEVER use the 3.5mm plug. My PRO headphones (Sennheiser HD650s) plug into my Metric Halo audio interface via 6.5mm plug.

The DA and amplifier in the MBP is not professional standard. It is discernibly inferior to the Metric Halo DA and amplifier.

So those arguing that Pro machines need a 3.5mm plug are wrong because:-
It's not professional quality.
6.5mm is the standard for the best studio headphones
The built in amp is not professional standard for driving top of the line headphones.

I do agree that a 3.5mm jack is not professional, considering that most if not all audio professionals use a different set up for their listening.

But for someone who uses their headphone jack at the school library, I do like the convenice.

But maybe right now, the forward goal for Apple might actually be targeted toward heavy professional use of very particular gear.

Most students I see these days just use their laptops Mac/PC for web browsing, music, and documents. As far as professionals go or pro devices, it's getting rather repetitive to hear about what a "pro" or "professional" does. Just as long as the product can get the work done that in its own right could be considered a pro device.

People call the surface pro a pro device but still has very underpowered hardware, but is capable of doing the things that a good portion of "pro" users need.

I'm probably going to get a lot of hate for saying this, but not everyone professional uses 3D rendering software, video production suites, or has 20+ plus instruments for their full orchestral scores for music creation.

Maybe Apple is actually creating a line specifically geared towards those that are heavy users of powerful software and those that don't.

If that's a problem, there are always alternatives like in Windows and Linux.
 
Apples profit from audio enthusiasts has to be close to zero
I'm not saying music enthusiasts. That's a tiny portion of their sales. I'm saying music producers, studio engineers, mastering engineers, etc. Walk into almost any professional studio and they've got a Mac. They would lose a huge portion of their market base if they drop this port
 
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How about Apple survey existing Mac Pro customers about user-replaceable parts and internal upgrade capabilities? Those of us who want a headless desktop machine but did not buy the 2013 cylinder Mac Pro did not buy that model for a very particular reason. It was not the system we want or need. That does not mean that we do not want a capable desktop Mac, only that we did not want THAT desktop Mac.
 
I use my 3.5mm plug every day at work. That said, a lightening to 3.5mm adapter would make zero difference.

In my music studio I literally NEVER use the 3.5mm plug. My PRO headphones (Sennheiser HD650s) plug into my Metric Halo audio interface via 6.5mm plug.

The DA and amplifier in the MBP is not professional standard. It is discernibly inferior to the Metric Halo DA and amplifier.

So those arguing that Pro machines need a 3.5mm plug are wrong because:-
It's not professional quality.
6.5mm is the standard for the best studio headphones
The built in amp is not professional standard for driving top of the line headphones.
I can't same the same for my studio. My headphones do connect to a headphone amp, but my monitors are connected to another headphone amp that takes an RCA cord from my 3.5mm output. Mixing on the road completely requires the 3.5 output because my headphone amp rig can't be taken with me
 
This thing is getting way out of control, time to mount a protest.. Don't buy the iphone 7, that will send a pretty sharp response. I know there are more then enough fanboy out there that want every bloody thing Apple ships, but please for God sake.. There was no reason to remove the headphone jack off the iPhone, in the first place
 
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I'm not saying music enthusiasts. That's a tiny portion of their sales. I'm saying music producers, studio engineers, mastering engineers, etc. Walk into almost any professional studio and they've got a Mac. They would lose a huge portion of their market base if they drop this port
I think that most audio engineers use headphones that connect through some sort of audio mixer and not directly to a 3.5mm jack.

But then again, I guess there could be varying production costs.
 
I think that most audio engineers use headphones that connect through some sort of audio mixer and not directly to a 3.5mm jack.

But then again, I guess there could be varying production costs.
I agree for iMacs and Mac Pros for sure. But for mixing engineers and indie artists, being able to mix on the go with a simple headset plugged into the 3.5 mm jack on a MacBook Pro is just a necessity
 
YES! Take the headphone jack away on everything. Push for wireless. Move forward.

I really hope the next iPads and MacBook Pros don't have one. I'm ready to move on. There's plenty of older models to tide people over for a few years while the industry transitions and new tech/products are developed. The 6s series is great! The iPad Pros are great! Even the current Macbook Pros are still good.

Make them lighter! Give us more USB-Cs. And a Lightning port on the MBP would be nice, especially if they wanna push people to get Lightning headphones.
I agree to an extent with what you said.. until you said "Make them lighter!".
Go for your life in minimizing the weight on the Air, and to an extent the Macbook.

But the Macbook Pros are not about weight. They're marketed towards professional use.

Chuck in a big fat battery, bump the processors way up, put in a decent gpu.
Now you're talking..
 
lol. ok.
whatever you say
:rolleyes:
I'm not sure how familiar you are with audio, but from what I can hear with my Solo 2 Wirelsss set anything below around 200 Hz is muddy and seems decreased by at least 6 dB. The high end seems to have a boost from 12 to 15 kHz and then cuts off pretty harsh after that, leaving harsh highs and muddy lows that just ruin the audio experience for me. Maybe the music you listen to doesn't have huge frequency range, but in my experience they're some of the worst headphones for music. I use mine for my Apple TV as they're fine for watching TV, just not for high quality music listening
 
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I like a wired headset for video conferencing and when I use voice recognition. Also, it is really nice when your bluetooth headset is dead.

A single thunderbolt port... /sigh/ - I guess I'll be buying multiple USB-3 Ethernet adapters and be ditching my Thunderbolt Ethernet adapters....

Since monitors are all mini display port, I won't have any available Thunderbolt ports.
I don't personally use the SD Card slot, but I know lots that do (I prefer USB3 reader).
Speaking of the loss of USB3-A.... what a pain in the ass. External mice, External HDD...

Come on Apple - do me a solid and keep at least one USB3-A port....
Oh yeah, please leave magsafe power as well (doubting that happens, but crap)
 
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You know what the problem is? You're arrogant and smug (and some others like you have the same toxic apologist attitude). You don't give a damn if so many other people want to still use the headphone jack, EVEN IF it has no affect on you at all.

Do you have ANY idea of how insulting you are to basically everyone?

It's amusing to read criticism like "smug" or "arrogant" by someone who has no problem with posting this judgmental garbage. You poor, offended victim :D

On topic: Keep it, thanks.
 
I also receive a similar market research survey today about my 5K iMac with a few questions about ports (questions about all the ports).
 
I use it daily...so does all my students in the art and music program. They can't expect everyone to shell out money for those ugly EarPods or any other 3rd party wireless?
 
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I think they should be asking "Would you want a combo audio/Spdif input jack?" And maybe an few extra USB ports? .But no :(

Emperor - clothes ......(which is actually figurative, but here literal)

Maybe it's some fixation with 'holes'


Its more about what Apple dose not control and will never control.. A smarter move would be to replace the lightning post with a USB Type-C, and leave the bloody headphone jack alone.. I have been a big Apple fanboy for many years and have spent $10,000 on their products.. But this more recent moves by Apple are really starting to anger me..
 
Yes to headphone jack and SD card slot! Anyone else missing a built-in Gigabit Ethernet port?
So where is the innovation then?
Apple could invent the MacBook Pro Custom Ports series. Imagine if you could order the exact ports that you need and get a customized MacBook Pro with a smart built-in docking solution....and the spare space goes to an extended battery.
That would be the future I'd like to have! And you?
 
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