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Apple SVP of Design Jony Ive Removed from Leadership Webpage [Updated]
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Source? And what was the time frame of the survey?
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Sorry, Steve wouldn't have approved that.
Greg Christie, who is VP of Human Interface, reports to Craig Federighi, not Jony. Ive.
I'm not aware of any sources that mention software design teams reporting directly to Ive. According to The Official Board, product design VP Steve Zadesky reports to Ive. His linkedin bio says he "oversees the mechanical engineering for dozens of Apple products including the first iPhone, first iPod and hundreds of accessories. Additionally he manages a team of EE, FW and SW engineers responsible for the engineering of the audio and accessory products for the iPhones, iPods, and iPads."
If you have a source that confirms Craig Federighi has nothing to do with software UI I'd be curious to read it.
Finally, just to be clear, I never argued that Ive has nothing to do software design. Of course he does as it's part of his new role. My argument is that he alone is not the only one responsible and if software designers were/are against the changes being made (or against Ive being given a role that according to you he's not qualified for) it would have leaked by now. Stuff like that doesn't stay secret - case in point the Bloomberg article I posted about hardware engineers complaining that Dan Riccio wasn't ready to replace Bob Mansfield. Any Apple rumor site would rush to publish a story like that as it would generate tons of page views.
These Bloomberg and USA Today interviews of Federighi and Ive I think gives a good indication of how the two work together. I don't think it was an accident that Apple PR decided to have the two of them interviewed together.
http://www.businessweek.com/printer...ve-and-craig-federighi-the-complete-interview
http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2013/09/19/apple-jony-ive-craig-federighi/2834575/
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According to you Safari crashing more than ever
iOs 7 seems to be the Lion release before we get Mountain Lion.
The flat design is personal taste, but taking away features is a no no.
To not have a SELECT ALL and DELETE ALL option in mail is a joke. One has to search for the work around and then it's totally convoluted.
Also, we all age, so slighty thicker type wouldn't kill ya Jony. (I know it can be adjusted)
I'm at the point that I don't care what it looks like, I just want the page reloading and crashing to stop. I'm easy to please.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1698760/Source? And what was the time frame of the survey?
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Sorry, Steve wouldn't have approved that.
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what if:
Jony came to work today and someone told him "Hey Jony, did you hear, people thought you were leaving Apple because of a glitch on the website."
Jony laughs...then hears it in his head like an echo "leaving Apple...Apple...Apple......" and then starts thinking about retiring?
Jony came to work today and someone told him "Hey Jony, did you hear, people thought you were leaving Apple because of a glitch on the website."
Jony laughs...then hears it in his head like an echo "leaving Apple...Apple...Apple......" and then starts thinking about retiring?
One of the millions who hate how bad the iOS 7 design is maybe hacked the site.
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If I ever make tons of money, no way I'm sticking around in California. They'll take your money to throw away because "it's not fair" otherwise. But it's worse in the UK.
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I can't believe Jony Ive is the guy who took away buttons in iOS 7 and replaced them with weird rectangles that don't look like anything. I thought Apple should have made progress since 1984, but here I am wishing my iPhone would have Mac System 1 buttons in its GUI! Anything would be better!
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If I ever make tons of money, no way I'm sticking around in California. They'll take your money to throw away because "it's not fair" otherwise. But it's worse in the UK.
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I can't believe Jony Ive is the guy who took away buttons in iOS 7 and replaced them with weird rectangles that don't look like anything. I thought Apple should have made progress since 1984, but here I am wishing my iPhone would have Mac System 1 buttons in its GUI! Anything would be better!
He's a good man but I wasn't crazy about the new design. The concept is fine but the result is not that impressive.
Microsoft Bob.
That's for you
Indeed! In fact in the back of my mind I had the Apple internet portal that I used sometime in the 90's with my 12K dialup modem. It was called eWorld, based on a village and you could click on the post office to get your mail. It was brilliant!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:EWorld_Main_Screen.png
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These two, at least, are fixed in 7.1. The animations have been speeded up and the worst thin-font cases (e.g. Keyboard) have been fixed.
I thought this too, at first. But after using iOS 7 for a while I've come to realise that it's a pretty smart design decision. Icons tend to be overused in apps (by developers) and all but the most common and well-known ones are incomprehensible to new users of an app. By making labels, rather than icons, the default, you're making apps easier to learn and use.
Yes, but it had also become a creative noose around designer's necks.
iOS 7 is a fresh start. It isn't perfect and certainly didn't make everyone happy, but it's a good clean base that'll be refined and improved over time. We're already seeing big improvements in 7.1.
I've used 7 (and 7.1) for months now, but still have a couple of iOS 6 devices around for testing. Using iOS 6 now seems dated and archaic (and, when it comes to things like the old navigation bars and buttons, ugly!) by comparison. So, it's really just a matter of familiarity and what you're used to.
EH? It's much better in the UK[*]. You can be a UK citizen, own businesses and property in the UK, and as long as you spend 183 days of your year outside of the UK (perhaps in some tax-haven like Monaco or Burmuda) then you don't have to pay any UK tax at all!
This is not possible in the USA where the government applies taxation based on citizenship, not residency. It's why you see some wealthy americans (like Facebook co-founder Eduardo Saverin) giving up their US citizenship in order to escape it's tax regime.
[*] taxation, that is. Not the weather. Haha.
Actually, this is not really true. By the time you add up Federal and State income taxes in California, you're typically paying more in CA than you would in the UK.
Of course, there are other taxes besides income that are higher in the UK (20% VAT vs 7-9% sales tax in CA), but the difference is not as great as might be perceived.
Agreed I made this point above. Federal is 39.6 and State is 9.3 in California which adds up to 48.9 at his earning level. There are also a lot of other hidden cost in US that more than makes up for the difference between Vat and Sales tax. Eg Property tax vs Council tax could anything between five and eight times higher. Capital gains tax on sale of your primary residence of 25 percent, not forgetting medical insurance which is like $12,000 per year from personal experience. However, we do get screwed on petrol taxes which are much higher.
Or some people have too much time on their hands to notice that his data was taken down momentarily.
That is all that was needed.
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I just wanted him to cite a source for his matter-of-fact comment. More and more around here we see folks make these claims unable to back them up. I have some experience with the contracts and contract law in general. Of course, no matter how many I've signed, I've never worried about them when seeking new employment.
Yes yes, perhaps to someone like Forstall!
rather. but what is with the simplistic nonsense that if people dont want crazy white they want green felt?
apple and their drones were up in arms that the look and feel of the original ios was by being copied. nobody in their right mind would copy ios7 look.
lol that's what I always say! I wonder why aladdin was so stupid. He could have had a infinite number of wishes.
Yes let's see what the new iOS looks like after it's had a few years of refinement. OSX and iOS weren't perfect out of the gate either. Did everyone love aqua? Of course not.
Not a technical glitch!
Ive saw the actual HTML code that comprised his page and demanded that it be made 20% thinner than the previous HTML code that showed the same output.
Ive saw the actual HTML code that comprised his page and demanded that it be made 20% thinner than the previous HTML code that showed the same output.
But it gives attention. So not lame but brilliant. They live on attention. Attention = Sales.