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Apple Sweeps Consumer Reports' Laptop Recommendations

IWantItThatWay said:
It's the opinions of millions of people, which is the number 1 complaint about Macs.

Plus, it's a fact Macs are expensive, because they are significantly more than their PC counterparts.

As I said, my price configurations are far more reasonable than Apple's.
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And once again Apple doesn't care, nor does anyone else in this thread. So why do you bother? Do you expect people to all of the sudden have a revelation and start thinking like you and stop buying Macbooks? Or maybe that Steve Jobs will come into this thread and change the way he runs things because of your opinion? Do you really think that anyone who doesn't live under a rock doesn't know that Macs cost more than most PC's, including Mr. Jobs? It just bothers you that people don't agree with you. You would at least be more effective in your "cause for cheap Macs" by writing to Apple rather than ranting on a Mac forum.
 
vipergts2207 said:
And once again Apple doesn't care, nor does anyone else in this thread. So why do you bother? Do you expect people to all of the sudden have a revelation and start thinking like you and stop buying Macbooks? Or maybe that Steve Jobs will come into this thread and change the way he runs things because of your opinion? Do you really think that anyone who doesn't live under a rock doesn't know that Macs cost more than most PC's? It just bothers you that people don't agree with you.
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No it bothers me that people call Microsoft M$ while Apple is the real one that rips people off (almost to the point of theft).
 
IWantItThatWay said:
If you want to pay $1500 on $700 hardware be my guest.
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And I will gladly, because I dont buy from a spec sheet.

I want the OSX experience and Ill feel damn good dropping down that $1500 walking out of the store knowing i bought exactly what I wanted.

That just bothers the **** out of you though doesnt it?
 
NT1440 said:
And I will gladly, because I dont buy from a spec sheet.

I want the OSX experience and Ill feel damn good dropping down that $1500 walking out of the store knowing i bought exactly what I wanted.

That just bothers the **** out of you though doesnt it?
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You have never experienced OS X and you want to drop $1500 on it? As I said, if Windows bothers you so much, switch to Linux. Or buy the iMac.

Say NO to Apple Notebooks.
 
IWantItThatWay said:
You have never experienced OS X and you want to drop $1500 on it? As I said, if Windows bothers you so much, switch to Linux. Or buy the iMac.

Say NO to Apple Notebooks.
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READ MY POSTS.

Did you just skip over my OSX experiences last damn page?

Edit: why would I buy an iMac? I want a laptop. Ive used linux and it just doesnt make me as happy as OSX. I always do keep slax for trouble shooting my pc tho when it cant boot.
 
IWantItThatWay said:
No it bothers me that people call Microsoft M$ while Apple is the real one that rips people off (almost to the point of theft).
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Yeah an Microsoft rips you off compared with Linux, and why the heck is Office like 300 dollars when there is openoffice for free, heck even iwork is cheaper. 🙄
 
This getting a bit too personal don't you guys think ?

Relax..It's just numbers.Who cares.

Buy what you want. The only person it really matters to is the user that bought it.
 
IWantItThatWay said:
If you want to pay $1500 on $700 hardware be my guest.
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It's just so convenient to just write-off all the little extras that really set Macs apart isn't it when they aren't on the spec sheet? You have tunnel vision, try looking at the bigger picture for once instead of just raw numbers. I bet that's how CR came to their conclusion.
 
IWantItThatWay said:
No it bothers me that people call Microsoft M$ while Apple is the real one that rips people off (almost to the point of theft).
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Jeez, where do you get that crap at. I've worked for HP for 20 years....
Speak with experience or just opinion?
Apple makes a better product period! My $2000.00 MB Pro has lasted 3 years. The crap 400-700 PC's I buy for my teenagers because I know they'll only get a year at most out of it.... Plastic Trash that I have to work on every weekend because the OS sucks and the hardware is flaky at best. Who's ripping who off?
 
inkswamp said:
What the CR stats confirm, in as objective a way as possible, is that such failures are far less frequent for Apple products than for their PC counterparts.
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Sorry, but the CR stats do not confirm this AT ALL. Here's what CR says about reliability:

No one brand stood out as the most reliable among laptop brands. That's what we found out when we asked more than 63,000 readers who bought a laptop between 2004 and 2008 about their experiences.

And if you look at their reliability chart, they show 20% of Macs having had reliability problems - 7th out of 8. However, the range runs from 18% to 21%, and as CR explains that differences of 3 or less don't matter, Apple may not actually be in 7th place. But it means that macs have been about as reliable as computers from other makers over the past 4 years.

Having Macs in first place in all of the laptop categories is, of course, a good thing for Apple.

But it's not an entirely unmixed blessing given the cost disparities: i.e., 1st place, 15" MPB, $2,000; 2d place, Toshiba, $700; 1st place, 17" MPB, $2,800; 2d place, Toshiba, $750.
 
NT1440 said:
macbook for college.
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Wow. 4000 posts and no Macbook? 😱

Took me 2 years to save up for my Macbook. Now I've had it for two years. I like it otherwise, but the GMA 950 graphics on a then $1300 computer make me mad.
 
vipergts2207 said:
It's just so convenient to just write-off all the little extras that really set Macs apart isn't it when they aren't on the spec sheet? You have tunnel vision, try looking at the bigger picture for once instead of just raw numbers. I bet that's how CR came to their conclusion.
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Um what "little extras" does the Mac have that justifies the $500 price differences? What about the PC extras?
 
Beric said:
I would suggest that the Macbook is powerful enough for most consumers. However, I wouldn't mind an BTO option for a 9600M. That's the real problem. Not enough options.
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For the MacBook Pro, I wouldn't mind the option of a quad core + 9400M, or a 25 W* dual-core + 9700M.

* The 2.4/2.67 GHz CPUs are 25 W, but the 2.93 GHz is 35 W and I'm assuming that's what the MBP thermal limits are designed around.
 
JGowan said:
Wow -- another one of these types of threads. Not surprised. Here's my pat answer...

As a person who uses his computers for business, I want and need the best. Sure the hardware outlay MAY be more, but how valuable is my time? If I have less trouble of the next 4 years (which is what I expect my computer to give me at least in service), then whatever I spend over and above the cheaper competition is worth it. I buy the best to last the long haul, not save a $100 in the short term.

Off the path (but not really): I know people who have made literally a million dollars with pirated software that costs $450. How cheap do you have to be? If you're in college, yeah, I can see trying to cut costs every way you can, but most of us here are making money with our macs/pcs... I don't know how anyone can quibble over someone else's decision to try and buy quality.
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Value of time? Getting what YOU want? What is this madness you speak of? Sadly many people here are mentally handicapped when it comes to determining what subjectivity, objectivity, anecdotal evidence, and opinion are.

As usual. Hate Apple and want WinPC PCs for less money, even though it doesn't fit your needs? You're an informed consumer. Love Apple's stuff because you're personally more productive? You're a fanboy.
 
Spare me

IWantItThatWay said:
Um what "little extras" does the Mac have that justifies the $500 price differences? What about the PC extras?
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PC "extras"? I don't even want to know.

As for the Mac extras? Unibody laptops - with all the great detailing that goes into them (easy open battery door, battery indicator, iSight), beautiful, rock solid, easy to upgrade desktops, OSX (Calendar, Mail, Address Book - all work perfectly together with amazing features, iPhoto, iMovie, Garage Band, stacks, dashboard, spaces). . . . . . . . . . . . .
 
bruinsrme said:
or getting what you want for considerable less.
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Cool -- go to it. I prefer OS X.

Just dropped $3K on the new 15" MacBook Pro for the missus, complete from soup to nuts. She loves it. It's incredibly quick and the most beautiful laptop I've seen (aside from the 17" [my next purchase])… we have the means.

"If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up" - Ferris Bueller
 
Problem is MBP is $2000 while the second rated 14"16" laptop in CR's ratings is $800.

Granted CR doesn't compare OS's afaik.
 
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