I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who thinks this...
We'll see a tablet someday, but not any time soon like the lunatics insist.
-Clive
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Apple Tablet Delayed with OLED Model Planned? 3G Possible?
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I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who thinks this...
We'll see a tablet someday, but not any time soon like the lunatics insist.
-Clive
Borgesian!
I love the fact that we now have an imaginary delay of an imaginary delivery date of an imaginary product!
It's like that Borges story where objects that people imagine as part of a game start showing up in reality. Except the reality part!!
I love the fact that we now have an imaginary delay of an imaginary delivery date of an imaginary product!
It's like that Borges story where objects that people imagine as part of a game start showing up in reality. Except the reality part!!
My wife just started talking last night about an e-book. I said Apple might be doing one and perhaps look that one over. However, the price points I keep seeing and that it may always be a rumor have me thinking elsewhere....
she said the B&N Nook and there is the Kindle and Sony. Also with iPod Touch having a Reader App, how would that be different?
she said the B&N Nook and there is the Kindle and Sony. Also with iPod Touch having a Reader App, how would that be different?
Not really, the iPhone/Touch already get ~24hrs of usability (I can go all day without needing to charge my iPhone). A tablet device with an 8" screen would be more than twice the size of the iPhone, and could easily accommodate a battery 2-3 times larger than what's in the current iPhone. 48hrs is not unreasonable.
While we're on the subject, the physical size, and the ever-downward pricing pressure on electronic components would also allow dual CPUs and other features while still roughly meeting an $800 price point. This is not impossible.
24 hours of doing nothing
Games drain battery in 3-4 hours. Video in ~5 hours. Music in 24 hours and surfing web is somewhere in the middle. 8 inch display with high resolution needs better graphics and CPU than currently found in 3GS and energy consumption goes up.
It's not a problem. Apple already has the technology in place to allow apps to run on any architecture. XCode lets you create universal binaries... There is also Rosetta - this is why unaltered PowerPC apps run on Intel Macs. The same principle can be used here. Optimized apps would be best of course, but I would envision developers starting by recompiling existing apps and releasing them to a new section in the App Store.
Not really, the iPhone/Touch already get ~24hrs of usability (I can go all day without needing to charge my iPhone). A tablet device with an 8" screen would be more than twice the size of the iPhone, and could easily accommodate a battery 2-3 times larger than what's in the current iPhone. 48hrs is not unreasonable.
While we're on the subject, the physical size, and the ever-downward pricing pressure on electronic components would also allow dual CPUs and other features while still roughly meeting an $800 price point. This is not impossible.
You disprove your own theory in your 2nd to last sentence. Sure a bigger battery is possible, but its driving a screen 3 times the size and according to you 2 multicore processors (4 cores). It'll be lucky to last til lunchtime.
Me either, especially if costs $2000.
C'mon people, obviously it refers to an internal project plan.
But I'll still believe it when I see it.
This ia all about manipulating AAPL prices to drive them back to a buyable point. Seems to be working. Under $195 and I'll buy mure myself
24 hours of doing nothing
You're going to force me to be specific aren't you? From Apple.com:
iPhone -
Talk time:
Up to 12 hours on 2G
Up to 5 hours on 3G
Standby time: Up to 300 hours
Internet use:
Up to 5 hours on 3G
Up to 9 hours on Wi-Fi
Video playback: Up to 10 hours
Audio playback: Up to 30 hours
Now, think about a tablet with the physical space for a battery 2-3 times the size of the one in the iPhone. A generic ~48hrs sounds pretty reasonable now, does it not?
You whole premise is based on your assumption that e-ink is the only solution, and everything falls from that. Not true. E-ink is old technology that has failed to catch on. Screen resolution, brightness, contrast and much, much more (fonts, letterspacing, leading, formatting, etc.) go into electronic document legibility. Once you get past that assumption, everything else is possible (probable).
Not really. Check out Apple.com. Existing iPod Touch, 64GB, price: $399... If Apple makes a bigger "Touch" with a larger screen, a larger battery, adds Ethernet and one more processor, they have $400 extra dollars to play with for only a minimal increase in parts. This really is realistic. It can be done.
The only reason I want this to come out is so we can put an end to the rumors.
This tablet will be one of these 3:
1. An ebook reader (meh, I'll stick with paper and a highlighter for school)
2. A jumbo iPod Touch/iPhone (why would anyone want this? buy a laptop)
3. A iPod Touch that runs osx (what's the point? buy a laptop)
This tablet will be one of these 3:
1. An ebook reader (meh, I'll stick with paper and a highlighter for school)
2. A jumbo iPod Touch/iPhone (why would anyone want this? buy a laptop)
3. A iPod Touch that runs osx (what's the point? buy a laptop)
And once an
Tablet is released which rumour bandwagon are we going to jump on then. I am curious as a cat to see what is next....Apple doesn't own Rosetta. It was developed by Transitive, who adapted it under contract for them. Who are now owned by IBM i believe. You are unlikely to see any further developments to Rosetta.
Also running powerpc (risc processor with fairly shallow pipe) on intel with it's very deep pipelines is practical. Running intel or powerpc on an ARM is a laughable absurdity.
Apples work on the LLVM compiler means that they can easily build binaries for multiple Archs or if they decided to them could build them to a bytecode which would then be translated to machine code on the target host. Sorta like what java does currently. We know how performant that is.
However all of this is doesn't help you when you want to run MS Office, photoshop or any other application that's not currenly built on xcode. Not to mention that every one of these apps suck on a touchscreen. Apple is not going to repeat what MS did and failed at a decade ago.
If adobe releases a photo editing package for the tablet (they've experimented on the iPhone) its not photoshop. It's not the same code you might be running on your desktop and i guarantee you, you'll be paying for it again to get it. It won't have the full feature set, at least not for a long while and plugins will not work. (they'll have to be rebuilt).
So lose this fantasy that you are getting a multitouch enabled macintosh. It's just so ridiculous that its fantasy.
M.
You're going to force me to be specific aren't you? From Apple.com:
iPhone -
Talk time:
Up to 12 hours on 2G
Up to 5 hours on 3G
Standby time: Up to 300 hours
Internet use:
Up to 5 hours on 3G
Up to 9 hours on Wi-Fi
Video playback: Up to 10 hours
Audio playback: Up to 30 hours
Now, think about a tablet with the physical space for a battery 2-3 times the size of the one in the iPhone. A generic ~48hrs sounds pretty reasonable now, does it not?
Haaaa ha haa haaa ha haaaa haaaaa, oh stop, haaa ha, please no more, ha haaa ha hhhhaaaa ha ha. I always try to be nice, but this is plain idiotic.
The screen would draw more power, yes, but if you check out ARM, you'll find that the new multi-core Cortex CPUs are just as efficient as the older single core CPUs. Also, when cores are not needed, they can be shut down.
In portable use, say just music, or just web surfing - light stuff, a tablet like this should easily see 2x or better battery life than the existing iPhone. In heavy use, it should do at least as well as the current iPhone. If you're really doing super heavy work, chances are you're going to have it docked anyway, and then battery life become irrelevant.
That could be possible but there it would be very complicated if it's just a recompile. If an osx application that relies on a specific osx framework or libraries even it it managed to recompile for the arm architecture it will break unless Tablet OS provide the app's dependancies. What can happen is there will be a new tablet os dev center with Apple providing APIs and specific guidelines for creating apps. Who knows, Apple can reveal this dev tool as an extension to XCode this WWDC then release the tablet mid 2010 with apps ready to be published.
I'll give you music, and thats with the screen off. Doubling or tripling the battery size != doubling or tripling battery life.
I'd vote Nook, since it's Android and pretty slick and has A LOT of content. But me, I'm on the fence: I really like dead trees.
I used to want some sort of tablet w/ good handwriting recog. for writing, until I realized how much I'd slow myself down not typing.
Why are people so obsessed with OLED? It is useless for use outside in the sunlight while LCD does still work outside in direct sunlight. It uses more power than LCD when displaying white pixels for things like documents, books and the web. The blue organic pigment will deteriorate over time when exposed to sunlight resulting in a colour shift.
What are the advantages of OLED that counter all of these negatives making it still better than LCD for a portable device that will be used outside?
What are the advantages of OLED that counter all of these negatives making it still better than LCD for a portable device that will be used outside?