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99% of posters on this thread have absolutely ZERO imagination whatsoever. Your posts remind me of the epic 2001 iPod release thread.
 
So is it going to be called "iPod Touch Pro"? :eek:

Possibly not. If it's going to be about the size and form factor of a book, They might name it a MacBook...remember they just moved the current MacBook's name over to MacBook Pro, leaving the old name vacant of products.
 
Get yourself a Bluetooth keyboard! I bet they will have an optional one that perhaps clips onto the screen, protecting both keys and screen.

Hmmm...Maybe now we might understand why Apple came out with those short dinky-assed bluetooth keyboards a year ago... they are designed to be the same sized as the "next Big Thing" they will interface to. :cool:
 
Going off my previous post…

If the large display size is necessary for significantly increased hardware specs (since a larger display means more internal volume), then there must be some sort of upcoming software that needs increased specs.

Or, the large display size is due to some upcoming software that uses the large display size (that cannot effectively be used on a 3.5" display).

Either way, it looks like software will be key to this device…
 
Either way, it looks like software will be key to this device…

Software has ALWAYS been key to Apple's devices, AND success.

Anyone with half a brain that saw Apple's patents posted over the past months can get a rough estimate what this new touch device will be running.
 
If it's considerably cheap compared to a laptop, I may consider it. I don't own a laptop because I'm mainly a desktop/home office kind of guy. So that's why I bought a 24" iMac. But I do find myself at times where I would like to email or search the web when I'm on the road, etc. A cheap tablet would be ideal for that. I don't see myself doing my graphic design work on either a laptop or tablet because of the screen size, so the tablet would be good for small ordinary tasks.
 
The Name... come on it's obvious

It will either be the iPad or the iBook.

It's no coincidence that the iBook systems don't exist anymore...
iBook if they want to engage nostalgia and remind us of how powerful it is ( but run the risk of people thinking it is a Kindle device )

iPad if they want the play on words from ipod, and instant recognition, but run the risk of people making fun of it... maxiPad, etc etc.
 
My first question is: Is the Tablet going to be a dumbed down device like iPhone or a full on computer with OSX 10.6 with a finder and access to files?
 
Seriously?...we need yet another touch device?...for what?

If i have an iPhone/iPod Touch why do i buy this again?

You don't. It's not for you.

It's for people who don't have an iPod Touch because it's too small, and don't want a PC or a MacBook either.

There's a whole generation of people where a lot of them don't have eyes sharp enough for these tiny iPhone size web pages any more. But other than that an iPod Touch would be perfect for them.

You are right that tablet PC's don't sell. But an iPod Touch isn't sold as a tablet PC, nor does it work like a tablet PC (even though it is one), and it sells in the 10's of millions.
 
My second question is: Is it going to have PEN INPUT so that we can do real graphics on it and do character input on it or is it going to be dumbed down just to do gesture stuff like the iPhone?

I actually have a Tablet PC and love the tablet format - It would be my computer of choice if it wasn't for XP (I am a Mac guy) but as an artist I love being able draw directly on the screen.
 
Why not get a 1.6 GHz C2D?

To get great battery life with a much smaller thinner lighter battery than the kind they put in laptops. A C2D in an iPod Touch would last what? 5 minutes? And burn your hand.

SL can't run on a ARM.

And how do you know that?

Except for the desktop GUI eye-candy stuff, I wouldn't be surprised if huge portions of SL were developed for ARM first, then ported to x86. It turned out that Mac OS X ran on a lot more CPUs than Apple first let on about, the same is probably true of SL. An iPhone in the near future might well be running full SL, except with the iPhone UIKit GUI wrapped on top of it instead of the Cocoa desktop.
 
To get great battery life with a much smaller thinner lighter battery than the kind they put in laptops. A C2D in an iPod Touch would last what? 5 minutes? And burn your hand.



And how do you know that?

Except for the desktop GUI eye-candy stuff, I wouldn't be surprised if huge portions of SL were developed for ARM first, then ported to x86. It turned out that Mac OS X ran on a lot more CPUs than Apple first let on about, the same is probably true of SL. An iPhone in the near future might well be running full SL, except with the iPhone UIKit GUI wrapped on top of it instead of the Cocoa desktop.

They do it with the MBA. And that's why it won't be a scaled-up iPT.

The ARMs don't use x86.

What other architectures? It ran on PPC and x86.

SL is too big to even dream about running on an iPhone. The iPhone doesn't even have the power to run it.

I really, really, really doubt that. That would be quite a lot of work and the Finder and other things wouldn't work as well. That's how ported things are.
 
SL is too big to even dream about running on an iPhone.

More nonsense. SL is smaller and cleaner than Leopard. (Apple says that after you install SL, you will end up with more disk space than you had before with Leopard).

And the iPhone OS X is just a slightly stripped down port of Leopard 10.5 (ask the jailbreak experts, they find almost the same OS guts in inside both), but just with the iPhone UIKit instead of the Cocoa desktop as the GUI on top.

If Leopard fit, SL will fit and perform even better.

Of course that doesn't include all the desktop toys in SL (Finder, iMovie, Garage Band & etc.)...
 
More nonsense. SL is smaller and cleaner than Leopard. (Apple says that after you install SL, you will end up with more disk space than you had before with Leopard).

And the iPhone OS X is just a slightly stripped down port of Leopard 10.5 (ask the jailbreak experts, they find almost the same OS guts in inside both), but just with the iPhone UIKit instead of the Cocoa desktop as the GUI on top.

If Leopard fit, SL will fit and perform even better.

Of course that doesn't include all the desktop toys in SL (Finder, iMovie, Garage Band & etc.)...

I would stop posting before you make yourself look even more foolish. You clearly don't know what you are talking about here.

iPhone OSX is more than "slightly stripped down".
 
If it will run full Snow Leopard = Could be interesting.

The gotcha could be that it will run full Snow Leopard, but locked down to being able to install only iTunes App store apps (except the apps will have support for a larger or resolution-independent display/touch area), plus web apps as well of course (similar to Google's new Chrome OS).

iPhone OSX is more than "slightly stripped down".

Technically, you are right of course. According to some of the Apple engineers I heard speak at the last two WWDCs, the current iPhone OS contains some newer OS code than is in Leopard, and this newer iPhone OS code is currently being ported back to Snow Leopard.
 
I think it's coming september because for one they updated the entire notebook lineup months before the usually do. Why else would they do that unless their saving the usual date for something new?


I don't think the tablet is going to be anything like you guys are describing. I think of it like this when there was that rumour of the glass trackpad everyone thought it was going to be some sort of screen on the macbook. Wasn't was it?
 
How? I've been using a mouse, keyboard, display, and 2D desktop for my entire life. It's been pretty much the same since the 128K.

There were several generations of computers before the 128k. A 4k memory "chip" used to be the size of refrigerator. Before terminals there were teletypes. Before that there were punched cards. Some earlier machines needed input from plugboard wiring and front panel switches. And those are the electronic computers. Before that there was Babbage, Stibitz and Vannevar Bush with mechanical computation engines.

Before the PC, no science fiction book predicted anything like clamshell laptops with keyboards. My guess is that they are a passing fad, like punched card machines, and will all be gone in 20 years or so. Kids will laugh at Mac PowerBooks in museums, like they do when shown software for PCs (the original Micro Soft Basic) on paper tape.

What will people use when laptops are long obsolete? Will things like an iPod Touch stay in popular usage longer?

Only time will tell...
 
One thing for sure is that this kind of devices would never be able to replace netbooks, as one of the top requests (or THE top request, more often than not) from the netbook customers is better keyboards. Just imagine how they would react to virtual keyboards, or the necessity of carrying around separate bluetooth wireless keyboards or something of that sort. It would never fly.

So, I assume that this would be for a completely different market. I'm not sure what exactly it is, though.
 
One thing for sure is that this kind of devices would never be able to replace netbooks, as one of the top requests (or THE top request, more often than not) from the netbook customers is better keyboards. Just imagine how they would react to virtual keyboards, or the necessity of carrying around separate bluetooth wireless keyboards or something of that sort. It would never fly.

So, I assume that this would be for a completely different market. I'm not sure what exactly it is, though.

and I say again: for the many many many people that want an iphone without the phone. bigger screen is a plus and more power and probably better os are big pluses
 
I agree. People who see no need for a product like this can't see beyond their own little world. I'd buy one just for the convenience of being able to show videos and comps to clients out of my office. Quite often I'm tired of having to haul my $2K+ MacbookPro out into the field just to use it as a viewing device. I only want to take the laptop when I have work that needs done, not as an expensive way to view stuff or surf the web. For client review process, or just taking general notes, I'd love to have something to throw in my saddlebag without worrying about damage or loss. On a personal level, I'd much rather have this to watch movies on than the rather small screen iPod.

People are complaining all the time about Apple not producing a Netbook. A netbook was once a tiny computer with certain limitations, but very light, so you could take it with you everywhere. Since then netbooks have changed from Linux to Windows, and instead of being something useful they have changed to tiny, slow laptops with the year before lasts technology and awful keyboard. And Apple didn't want to go into this market.

This is a netbook the way Apple does it. I guess it would have an ARM processor or two running at reasonably high clock speed, and more RAM than an iPod. USB to attach a keyboard and some way to make it stand upright, so you can use it as a monitor or as a picture frame. GPS built in and your choice of phone or no phone.

One thing for sure is that this kind of devices would never be able to replace netbooks, as one of the top requests (or THE top request, more often than not) from the netbook customers is better keyboards. Just imagine how they would react to virtual keyboards, or the necessity of carrying around separate bluetooth wireless keyboards or something of that sort. It would never fly.

That request comes from people who didn't actually want a netbook; they wanted a cheap laptop.
 
I wouldn't mind if the performance was the same as the 3GS, meaning same performance even on the bigger resolution.

I used a hackintosh netbook for a while, it wasn't doing it for me, I now have a 3GS and it is a real life-saver when out and about.

what I really need is something almost as portable, but that I can do even simple text-editing on (ie, edit scripts on FTP when on the road).

I don't care if I have to pay for an App to do it, just like on iPhone.

I don't need a full OS X running when out and about, thats what notebooks are for if I'm really going to be working away from the office..


as long as it has 3-4 times (GPU, CPU, and RAM wise) what the iPhone 3GS is - i'll definitely pick it up.

and with the kind of power used to run a power book or such.. it'd be amazing to see what devs can pull out of it game wise.

i'm excited. but i won't get my hopes up until i see it at a keynote.
 
Except for the desktop GUI eye-candy stuff, I wouldn't be surprised if huge portions of SL were developed for ARM first, then ported to x86. It turned out that Mac OS X ran on a lot more CPUs than Apple first let on about, the same is probably true of SL. An iPhone in the near future might well be running full SL, except with the iPhone UIKit GUI wrapped on top of it instead of the Cocoa desktop.

Core Animation was developed for iPhone first and then ported from iPhone OS to MacOS X. And to Windows, because Safari for Windows uses it as well :D
 
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