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Apple Tablet to Run iPhone OS and Launch in May or June 2010?

colmaclean said:
Anyone who ever expected full-blown OSX on this thing was having a giraffe.

Nice to see they're sticking to the old 80-20 rule.
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I agree. Many people don't get that trying to re-engineer a high-end product to move downmarket is too often a FAIL. Moving a low-end product upmarket is more often a winning strategy than the other way.

I'll bet that half the people who had hoped for OS X on a tablet would have complained about the inevitable lack of discrete graphics and/or firewire. :rolleyes:
 
slffl said:
Give me one good reason why it would be better to run OSX than the iPhone OS? The iPhone OS is just as capable as OSX, already built around multitouch, and they would probably be very likely to add multi-tasking because as you know it IS possible in iPhoneOS.

The iPhone OS is the way to go and I would HATE it if they used OSX on a TOUCH device!
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Well its all running OSX. The iPhone OS is just a modified version, and I expect the tablet to be a modified version of that modified version.

The iPhone OS isn't near as capable as OSX. And if you have 3 devices, a handheld computer (iPhone), a "netbook" type comuter (tablet), and a laptop (full featured), I expect to have 3 different tiers of OSX. In other words I want the OS with more features than the iPhone and less complex than a full blown version of OSX. Though I'd much rather deal with a full OSX rather than be limited to the iPhone OS.

Either way, these rumors mean nothing to me. So far all I see is a bigger iPod touch/iPhone. That's not revolutionary, and surprisingly Microsoft's Courier project looks a lot more innovative and compelling.
 
Again we are all just commenting on a rumor, but I too am not happy to hear that the full OS X might not be on this tablet device.

Also, I cannot justify spending that much on a device geared more towards reading books and magazines rather than a computer. The Kindle in now only $299 and with e-ink does quite well in its market.

I am always surprised by Apple products and I can only hope that this one will be more amazing than I can imagine...we will have to wait and see...
 
Same OS, Different Interface

Think different.

If the iPhone OS is being upscaled to a 10.7" screen, the OS interface itself must be changed.


On the app side, the Mac Tablet will NEED a killer app, otherwise it's just a jumped up iPod Touch.

I vote Photoshop.
 
yg17 said:
iPhone OS = EPIC FAIL
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Agreed. A tablet needs a few things to be worth anything. One of them is it needs to the ability to use a stylus with hand writing capabilities.
iPhone OS does not have that ability. As it stands all the Tablet would be is another failed product like the apple TV.
 
I couldn't consider paying 2-3x the price of my iphone .. for an iphone with a larger screen? For something that can't fit in my pocket, this thing better have more functionality.
 
Apple don't just make a new product, without something being special about it. Cheer up guys, we don't even know it's going to run iPhone's OS.

Just another rumour!
 
I'm all about this and the iPhone OS. It would be a clumsy experience if they were to use full-blown OSX and you'd also then have the added cost of needing a higher end CPU/memory and then your battery life is going to suffer.

The thing most people are missing is the App Store is the gravy train with biscuit wheels for Apple. 2 Billion downloads! Ca-Ching! If you put OSX on this thing, then you buy it and you're done. You put iPhone OS on this and you now have another device with the App Store revenue stream. I want one of these BAD. My wife sits in bed reading her Kindle, I want to be right there surfing the web and watching a movie or TV in bed with this thing. Don't get me wrong I love my iMac and I love my iPod Touch, but this would fill a nice void. I think the Safari browser is great for about 80% of what I need it for. If they could add flash support than it'd be 90-95% there for me. Either way, I'm all in on this one as long as the cost is < 1k.

*** Also the Newton recognition always sucked for me, so there's no way I want to go back to a stylus that I'll loose or have this thing try to make sense of my illegible handwriting.

-Troy
 
As much as I hate it, I bet Apple will go with iPhone OS. It makes sense because the iPhone is already Windows compatible so there are a lot of Windows users that could be potential buyers of this too. I think by making it a Mac tablet, you alienate a big portion of buyers. This is kind of ironic, no?

Personally, I want Snow Leopard. I wish they would draw a line in the sand and those who truly want a unique tablet experience, have to make a big step... it's about time. Perhaps had they released this during the Vista fiasco, they would be able to get many to go for it, but with Windows 7 coming out, Apple perhaps believes that people will stick with Windows 7 and stay Microsoft.

iPhone OS X is sort of middle ground -- it's its own thing.
 
Genghis Khan said:
Think different.

If the iPhone OS is being upscaled to a 10.7" screen, the OS interface itself must be changed.


On the app side, the Mac Tablet will NEED a killer app, otherwise it's just a jumped up iPod Touch.

I vote Photoshop.
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Work with Autodesk again and bring Sketchbook Pro. They already have Sketchbook Mobile for the iPhone which blows away the drawing apps so far. Ps would be too much. If anything I'll take a variant of Corel Painter, which has far superior pen input/line quality and will do most of your basic Ps tasks. Photoshop is still behind compared to those 2 programs in terms of drawing/sketching.
 
I could see it having the iPhone OS, but with a task bar and multiple apps running. It could work pretty well that way, I think.
 
Photoshop? On an iPhone? On a maxi-iPhone?

The days of Adobe swallowed Aldus coming up with a 'killer app' that wouldn't take 3 minutes to load are gone. Anything they could come up with is likely yo be painful plus Adobe has become slightly more Windows centric over the years.

Apple probably needs to go back to their roots and provide MacWrite, MacDraw and MacPaint with it. Maybe MacCalc and MacData?

Make me wonder if that's part of the reason for iWork online...
 
The OS is not the issue...

Take a moment and consider the target customer for a device like this:

It is not the techies like you and me (though we are a secondary target).

It is the millions (billions?) of non-technical people who don't have a computer, or try to use one in spite of the hassle it gives them.

This is the car with an automatic transmission, for those who never learned (or never will learn) to drive a stick shift.

Certainly, the OS needs to be there, but it needs to be invisible.

Don't need complex, resizable, overlapping windows either-- just adds complexity. One window is just fine-- flick or tap and there's another one.

If Apple can do this right (and I believe they will), it will change the world.

Here's the way I think they will market this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtPPFZERXyg

Fast Forward 25 years and substitute the paradigm of the iPhone UI.

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I think it will be mainly about the apps. Full size/length games, and much more of a threat to the DS/PSP because of more developers and interactivity.

Add a reading/e-book function and proper pen/writing capabilities and a few corporate-esque things to make it a business toy and tool, and you're good to go.

Still not sure if it'll be that successful since no one's managed to crack the tablet market so far. Seems a bit on the big side for anything but corporate and home use to me, but then again I guess it's too close to netbooks if it's smaller.
 
Genghis Khan said:
Think different.

If the iPhone OS is being upscaled to a 10.7" screen, the OS interface itself must be changed.


On the app side, the Mac Tablet will NEED a killer app, otherwise it's just a jumped up iPod Touch.

I vote Photoshop.
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Killer apps I'd like to run:

Sketchbook Pro
Photoshop
ArtRage
Painter
Zbrush
Note taking apps
Mindmapping apps
AutoCAD
SketchUp
 
PinkyMacGodess said:
Photoshop? On an iPhone? On a maxi-iPhone?

The days of Adobe swallowed Aldus coming up with a 'killer app' that wouldn't take 3 minutes to load are gone. Anything they could come up with is likely yo be painful plus Adobe has become slightly more Windows centric over the years.

Apple probably needs to go back to their roots and provide MacWrite, MacDraw and MacPaint with it. Maybe MacCalc and MacData?

Make me wonder if that's part of the reason for iWork online...
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Some look like idiots with "iPhone OS = Epic Fail". You won't get Mac OS X on such a small device. First we need to see it. All these rumors and we still know 0 about this thing. If it runs version if iPhone OS with some killer functionality I'm buying it. Do you think they don't know that "bigger iPod = no sale"? Do you think they are working so hard without any leakes just for bigger iPod? Well I want to believe they have more to show.
 
I would like to see in run the iPhone OS but with the feature to hit an App which would put you into full touch screen OSX.

If that could be done by Monday, that would be great.
 
RogueWarrior65 said:
Gimping the product with the iPhone OS makes the thing a giant iTouch.
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With all due respect.... DUH!
It will be a lot easier to add a few features to iPhone OS to facilitate input than it is to downscale OS X. I mean c'mon... after all the ridicule MS has gotten from the Mac community for trying to shoehorn Windows into everything from a server to an electric toothbrush, people think that Apple will take the 'whittling down' approach?

Apple is at the beginning of a curve... MS is at the end of one.
I know where my money is.
 
Povilas said:
Some look like idiots with "iPhone OS = Epic Fail". You won't get Mac OS X on such a small device. First we need to see it. All these rumors and we still know 0 about this thing. If it runs version if iPhone OS with some killer functionality I'm buying it. Do you think they don't know that "bigger iPod = no sale"? Do you think they are working so hard without any leakes just for bigger iPod? Well I want to believe they have more to show.
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Anyway you slice it, iPhone OS = Big iPod Touch.
 
dicklacara said:
Take a moment and consider the target customer for a device like this:

It is not the techies like you and me (though we are a secondary target).

It is the millions (billions?) of non-technical people who don't have a computer, or try to use one in spite of the hassle it gives them.

This is the car with an automatic transmission, for those who never learned (or never will learn) to drive a stick shift.

Certainly, the OS needs to be there, but it needs to be invisible.

Don't need complex, resizable, overlapping windows either-- just adds complexity. One window is just fine-- flick or tap and there's another one.

If Apple can do this right (and I believe they will), it will change the world.

Here's the way I think they will market this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtPPFZERXyg

Fast Forward 25 years and substitute the paradigm of the iPhone UI.

*
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Disagree. They wouldn't show young children using computers if they thought their target audience was too stupid. The whole point is that a 4 yr old can use a computer because they're easy to use (and they are).

The amount of people unable to use a computer shrinks massively every day. If you can't use a computer, then the likelihood is you're over 60 and don't want one - anyone who wants to do something enough and is prepared to give it a go will get it.

If you're under that age, then you either can't afford one (less developed country) or will avoid using one in your job and life because you don't like them.

It would be stupid for Apple to market to any of these groups since they are steadily decreasing (particularly the older people group), and unwilling to conform anyway.

If the tablet is made simple, it will be to keep costs down, to market it as 'Apple's simplicity that just works' or to give lots of potential for expensive add-ons, upgrades and alternative versions.
 
Povilas said:
Some look like idiots with "iPhone OS = Epic Fail". You won't get Mac OS X on such a small device. First we need to see it. All these rumors and we still know 0 about this thing. If it runs version if iPhone OS with some killer functionality I'm buying it. Do you think they don't know that "bigger iPod = no sale"? Do you think they are working so hard without any leakes just for bigger iPod? Well I want to believe they have more to show.
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Back on the previous page, that's what I said. BUT! If they are determined to create a fail with a 'maxi-iPhone', they had better give it a shot at life with SOME productive/fun applications...

I would think that OSX *could* at some level be ROM-able. It opens up a whole lot of potential if they could pull it off.
 
Could all these rumours be the old 'spaghetti on the wall' trick?

Throw a bunch of stuff on the wall (rumours) and see what sticks...

What's sticking so far is: No iPhone OS?
 
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