Apple Takes Jab at Samsung in Full Page Earth Day Newspaper Ad

[Dave.UK]

Apple just didn't go Green last week! Do you own a Apple product?

So why all of a sudden the big song and dance about being green?

In my eyes all they have done is made them self look pathetic, critiscising other companies that have been green for a long time.

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You do realize apple didn't go "green" with these data centers?

http://voices.yahoo.com/steve-jobs-apple-inc-unveils-plans-go-green-327581.html

No whether or not, they started at that very moment, is up for debate. But they have been preaching the green for quite some time. As I am sure, Samsung and other big name companies have been. We may not see it here, but I wouldn't be surprised if they do talk about it.

http://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/samsung-to-go

A quick google search and I found something about Samsung dating back to 2009. So yes they do to talk about it. I don't know if they took out a full add, but they do talk about!

Having an article online is slightly different to taking out a full page spread in papers having a snide dig at the competition, who as you have just seen have been green for a long time.

 

[osofast240sx]

So why all of a sudden the big song and dance about being green?

In my eyes all they have done is made them self look pathetic, critiscising other companies that have been green for a long time.

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Having an article online is slightly different to taking out a full page spread in papers having a snide dig at the competition, who as you have just seen have been green for a long time.

They have been talking about green for a while now it's nothing new. But humor me, humor all of us do you own one Apple product currently?

 

[rhett7660]

So why all of a sudden the big song and dance about being green?

In my eyes all they have done is made them self look pathetic, critiscising other companies that have been green for a long time.

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Having an article online is slightly different to taking out a full page spread in papers having a snide dig at the competition, who as you have just seen have been green for a long time.

And you did read the end of my comment yes...... And to your point, you did say, why did it take so long for Apple to go green, yet, I found two articles dating back to about the same time. I wouldn't be surprised if they both went green or talked about going green when it became a hot topic.

 

[lilo777]

While no company names were mentioned in the advertisement, given the legal battle between Samsung and Apple, I would assume that most readers of the newspaper would associate Samsung with it.

Samsung is given way too much publicity. If one technical novice person would have too choose between an iPhone or its iOS ecosystem and Android, one would almost immediately think of Samsung as the main alternative.

What a shame. Samsung mobile products are cheaply made, bloated with useless software, TouchWiz nullifies improvements in the CPU segments and on top if all, for what they are, way too expensive.

There are better alternatives in Android. Sadly some companies don't have the deep pocket for more aggressive marketing campaigns like this Korean conglomerate.

Why do people keep spreading this lie? For many years now BOM (Bill Of Materials) for every Samsung Galaxy S phone generation is way higher than that for iPhone (currently by $50). In fact iPhone has the lowest BOM of most high end smart phones. It is Apple that makes their phones cheaply not Samsung. They do charge more for iPhone than other companies for their phones but that is a different issue.

 

[Renzatic]

So why all of a sudden the big song and dance about being green?

In my eyes all they have done is made them self look pathetic, critiscising other companies that have been green for a long time.

It's basic advertising and politics, man. Those who know Apple is just another player in the Green Game aren't even a consideration with this advertisement. What matters is there are a number of people who don't know that, and are willing to take the ad as gospel, and spread the word about Apple's warm fuzzy green initiative on the internet. More good word is more mindshare, and more mindshare is more sales.

It's the same thing with copying. Apple builds their reputation on being at the forefront of innovation. Even on those occasions when they're lagging behind, they're still gonna claim otherwise, and play the "everyone copies us" angle whenever they can. And, you know, it works.

 

[maflynn]

[MOD NOTE]
Lets stay on topic folks

 

[Cyborg21]

Same old discussion. Manufacturers were moving in exactly the same direction as the iphone. Just take the LG Prada as an example.

So what features of the Android OS copy the ios OS? Im presuming your going to use the same argument to agree that ios has copied from Android, such as the notification center etc.

Did you even took a look at the picture. Android wasn't a touch screen OS, and LG Prada wasn't an Android phone and yup, it had a big touchscreen just like iPhone and iPod Touch had but, whole UI was almost same as a feature phone OS. Android was supposed to be a copy of Symbian and Blackberry OS then Google saw iOS and iPhone and made Android a iOS copy. They stole whole UI and then they stole features from jailbreak tweaks, then they copied iPad with Honeycomb. Even Windows Phone looks more original than Android.

 

[Renzatic]

Did you even took a look at the picture. Android wasn't a touch screen OS, and LG Prada wasn't an Android phone and yup, it had a big touchscreen just like iPhone and iPod Touch had but, whole UI was almost same as a feature phone OS.

Hell, the first iPhone was practically a feature phone even by the standards back then. It didn't grow into its own until the 3G.

 

[Digital Skunk]

They have been talking about green for a while now it's nothing new. But humor me, humor all of us do you own one Apple product currently?

This shouldn't even be a matter for discussion anymore. Claiming someone doesn't own Apple products because they don't sacrifice their first born child on the altar of Jobs is moot.

Most of us own (or manage) far more Apple products than most, and have been doing so for a decade or more . . . . . or longer for those OG (original gangster) Performa folks out there.

Did you even took a look at the picture. Android wasn't a touch screen OS, and LG Prada wasn't an Android phone and yup, it had a big touchscreen just like iPhone and iPod Touch had but, whole UI was almost same as a feature phone OS. Android was supposed to be a copy of Symbian and Blackberry OS then Google saw iOS and iPhone and made Android a iOS copy. They stole whole UI and then they stole features from jailbreak tweaks, then they copied iPad with Honeycomb. Even Windows Phone looks more original than Android.

All of this is moot. That one photo isn't even a consideration in touch screen tech, which has been around since 1970s, and touch screen user interfaces which were established very heavily since 1995 . . . and NO, not with the Newton which borrowed heavily from PalmPilot and Palm OS.

Hell, the first iPhone was practically a feature phone even by the standards back then. It didn't grow into its own until the 3G.

Agreed! We must remember that:

- Wireless file transfer
- Wireless P2P transfer
- Wireless transfer of SMS MMS message to another device (via an app and service provider)
- Broadband downloading and install of apps via an app store
- Broadband downloading of music
- WiFi downloading of music from iTunes
- WiFi printing to any printer
- BT printing to any printer with BT
- Syncing to iTunes for music installs
- Syncing to iCal, DotMac, Gmail, etc.
- MS Office docs creation, editing, emails, syncing
- Online storage of files
- total touch interface (minus text input)
- Movie watching
- Flash player plugin support
- Gaming
- BT file transfer
- BT keyboard and mouse syncing
- Extended desktop (VGA, but it was there)
- Brick and mortar store for hardware support
- SD card / CF Card memory expansion
- Screen size of larger than 3.5"
- GPS (via huge add on for non cellular devices i.e. Palm TX)
- Audio and Video capture at SD resolutions

All existed in premium phones and PDAs BEFORE the iPhone. Not just one here and there or merely a few features but not others . . . . ALL of these features. These were a staple of my digital life when I owned the Palm TX and Palm Treo 650

 

[BaldiMac]

not with the Newton which borrowed heavily from PalmPilot and Palm OS.

Strange. Time travel?

The first Newton was sold in 1993. The first Palm OS device was sold in 1996.

 

[Dave.UK]

Strange. Time travel?

The first Newton was sold in 1993. The first Palm OS device was sold in 1996.

The Newton is a copy of the Linus Write which was released in 1987.

http://oldcomputers.net/linus.html

 

[MattyW]

You must work for Samsung. Name five things Samsung has innovated in the past five years I'm almost certain you cannot name one. And what the heck is a DO innovate?

Please...

LTE Mobile phone: Samsung SCH-r900 is the world’s first LTE Mobile phone starting on 21 September 2010[24][25] and Samsung Galaxy Indulge being the world’s first LTE smartphone starting on 10 February 2011[26][27] both offered by MetroPCS.

LTE service: The world's first commercial LTE device, developed by Samsung, was provided for the world's first LTE service in Stockholm.[38] The South Korean company is providing the LTE infrastructure on the MetroPCS, North America’s first operator offering 4G LTE services.[25]

In May 2013, Samsung announced that it had finally managed to test speed-enhanced fifth generation (5G) technology successfully.

In 2009 it started mass-producing 30 nm-class NAND flash memories.[67] It succeeded in 2010 in mass-producing 30 nm-class DRAMs and 20 nm-class NAND flashes, both of which were the first time in the world.[68]

In early October 2013, the Samsung corporation disseminated a press release for its curved display technology with the Galaxy Round smartphone model. The press release described the product as the "world’s first commercialized full HD Super AMOLED flexible display." The manufacturer explains that users can check information such as time and battery life when the home screen is off, and can receive information from the screen by tilting the device.[54]

These are 5 things I pulled off their wikipedia page there are thousands upon thousands of more examples if you look through article's on OLED, Flexible displays, LCD's, DRAM, NAND, Camera's, GSM, EDGE, 3G, LTE, Foundry Processes, exct. {as their are for Apple}.

Hmm. Now I'm almost convinced you are on Samsung's payroll.

Do you even own any products Sir?



I was originally commenting on you saying that Apple's new Environment Ad Campaign was not classy and was some sort of Attack Ad.

Maybe Samsung and Google were working on a glass slab smart phone before shipped theirs but I think it is more than proven that Samsung copied Apple's designs.

Apple is saying in their Environment Ad. We know we are a market leader that others copy from... so copy this!

Also Dave, my definition of a Troll is someone who wanders into a community of like minded people, Apple product fan's in this case, and starts disagreements with just about everything they say.

Why aren't you hanging out in an Android fan forum?

How much is Samsung paying you anyway?
Sound like a cool gig.

It's people like you who ruin the forum for everyone, a lot of people here use android phones, this site is called "macrumours.com" not 'all my products are apple.com' In many markets subsidies arn't available for phones and Apple effectively prices themselves out of those markets with their insanely high prices, personally I use a Macbook, ipad and android phone but considering how cheap android tablets are getting {and how expensive ipads are here} my next tablet will probably be android as well, even then I will still visit this site and I am sure I will have to endure abuse from people like you who think that since we don't have an entire ecosystem of Apple devices we arn't welcome.

 

[BaldiMac]

The Newton is a copy of the Linus Write which was released in 1987.

http://oldcomputers.net/linus.html

That's as ridiculous as all of the other posts that you've been calling out.

 

[Digital Skunk]

Strange. Time travel?

The first Newton was sold in 1993. The first Palm OS device was sold in 1996.

Nope, research.

Palm Zoomer in 1993

The first MessagePad that ran the Newton OS was a flop because the handwriting recognition sucked bad. They borrowed Graffitti from Newton OS2 and on.

In initial versions (Newton OS 1.x) the handwriting recognition gave extremely mixed results for users and was sometimes inaccurate. The original handwriting recognition engine was called Calligrapher, and was licensed from a Russian company called Paragraph International. Calligrapher's design was quite sophisticated; it attempted to learn the user's natural handwriting, using a database of known words to make guesses as to what the user was writing, and could interpret writing anywhere on the screen, whether hand-printed, in cursive, or a mix of the two. By contrast, Palm Pilot's Graffiti had a less sophisticated design than Calligrapher, but was sometimes found to be more accurate and precise due to its reliance on a fixed, predefined stroke alphabet.

 

[Dave.UK]

That's as ridiculous as all of the other posts that you've been calling out.

Care to explain?

 

[BaldiMac]

Nope, research.

Palm Zoomer in 1993

The first MessagePad that ran the Newton OS was a flop because the handwriting recognition sucked bad. They borrowed Graffitti from Newton OS2 and on.

Did you read what you wrote? The Zoomer was neither a Palm Pilot nor a Palm OS device. What Newton licensed from Palm was the Graffiti handwriting system.

Care to explain?

Not really. The xx is a copy of xx discussions are all ridiculous. Nobody on either side cares to actually define any of the terms that they use. It's all just fanboy crap. Copying, patent infringement, copyright infringement, inspiration, and who did something remotely similar first are all used interchangeably and differences of degree are ignored.

 

[Renzatic]

Not really. The xx is a copy of xx discussions are all ridiculous. Nobody on either side cares to actually define any of the terms that they use. It's all just fanboy crap. Copying, patent infringement, copyright infringement, inspiration, and who did something remotely similar first are all used interchangeably and differences of degree are ignored.

One of the rare few times I'm in 100% agreement with you.

 

[tech4all]

Reminds me of Samsung's "The next big thing is already here" ads.

"Good artists copy, great artists steal" - Steve Jobs quoting Picasso.

So Apple want the competition to be a good artists but not great ones?

So that makes Apple, Samsung, Google, and Microsoft good artist...

This is a serious forum. I suggest you act seriously or otherwise leave this site.

lol you're funny.

Tomorrow morning: Samsung Announces 'Galaxy Campus 3'.

And Apple copied Google by having bikes on their new campus.

Apple copies as well.

 

[Cyborg21]

Why do people keep spreading this lie? For many years now BOM (Bill Of Materials) for every Samsung Galaxy S phone generation is way higher than that for iPhone (currently by $50). In fact iPhone has the lowest BOM of most high end smart phones. It is Apple that makes their phones cheaply not Samsung. They do charge more for iPhone than other companies for their phones but that is a different issue.

You know quality vs quantity

 

[the8thark]

that makes Apple, Samsung, Google, and Microsoft good artist...

No. That makes Apple and MS good artists (copy), and Google/Samsung great artists (steal/clone).

 

[Digital Skunk]

Did you read what you wrote? The Zoomer was neither a Palm Pilot nor a Palm OS device. What Newton licensed from Palm was the Graffiti handwriting system.

I did actually, but you are being very facetious.

I could be too and point out that the Newton didn't license anything from Palm. Apple licensed Graffiti from Palm Inc. which I already mentioned 3 pages back.

The first Newton was terrible, and was about as successful as the 20th Anniversary Mac until it got Graffitti from Palm in 1994.

If we want to "go there" then the original PDA was made in 1984, three years before the Newton went into development.

 

[BaldiMac]

I did actually, but you are being very facetious.

I could be too and point out that the Newton didn't license anything from Palm. Apple licensed Graffiti from Palm Inc. which I already mentioned 3 pages back.

The first Newton was terrible, and was about as successful as the 20th Anniversary Mac until it got Graffitti from Palm in 1994.

If we want to "go there" then the original PDA was made in 1984, three years before the Newton went into development.

I wasn't "going anywhere", and I wasn't being facetious. Your original comment that I responded to was simply wrong. If you'd like to clarify what you actually meant, that's fine. I'm not getting into the "who made what remotely similar product first" argument.

 

[Renzatic]

The first Newton was terrible, and was about as successful as the 20th Anniversary Mac until it got Graffitti from Palm in 1994.

There was one thing the Newton had over the iPad, though.

A stylus.

I want a stylus for my iPad.

 

[sualpine]

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[Renzatic]

I think I have an answer for you.

OH MY GOD! LOOK AT THAT! I WAS COMPLETELY AND TOTALLY UNAWARE!

I mean, like, a real stylus. With a fine point tip and pressure sensitivity. And yes, I know about the Jot Touch 4, but the problem with that is only so many apps support it.