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Hilarious how all the Samsung fanboys immediately leap to the defensive, despite Apple never actually referencing the company. I guess even Samsungites know deep down who's copying whom.
 
Hilarious how all the Samsung fanboys immediately leap to the defensive, despite Apple never actually referencing the company. I guess even Samsungites know deep down who's copying whom.

Well, when Apple keeps screeching in court how they are oh-so-copied (but they and Apple fanboys ignore their own copying), its pretty obvious who the ad was directed at.

I own more Apple products than I do Samsung, but I don't have my head up either company's hole like the fanboys of either side do.
 
Hilarious how all the Samsung fanboys immediately leap to the defensive, despite Apple never actually referencing the company. I guess even Samsungites know deep down who's copying whom.

Hilarious how all the Apple fanboys immediately leap to the offensive, despite Apple never actually referencing the company. I guess even Appleites know deep down who's copying whom. ;)
 
I never disputed Apple's role in the marketplace. I give them a lot of credit. I also give the rest of the industry credit for evolving technologies and infrastructure to a point where Apple could enter it. Another reason I find it a ridiculous assertion that people want to ridicule Samsung for just being copycats and ignoring the decades of innovation (yes innovation) and technology advances they made in the industry.

Then again - I'm not too surprised since it appears some people here think nothing in the cell phone industry existed before 2007.

I wasn't disagreeing or challenging your point at all. Just adding my perspective. I'm not one of the 95% here that think there is some good against evil battle going on in the consumer electronics industry. :cool:
 
iMacs are GREEN

"leave the world better than we found it".
Really?
Then stop selling all-in-one Macs (a waste of displays!!!).

1. Buy a Mac Mini / MacBook / Mac Pro instead of an iMac.
2. iMacs are very recyclable aluminum, glass & non toxic chemicals are being used, so not going into landfills.
3. Old iMacs can be wall mounted & used as monitor for new MacBooks / new Mac Minis / New Mac Pros as additional monitor via OSX Mavericks.
4. SELL old iMac & buy a different new Mac product.

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Hilarious how all the Samsung fanboys immediately leap to the defensive, despite Apple never actually referencing the company. I guess even Samsungites know deep down who's copying whom.

Yes, ONLY Samdung can slam Apple & mention Apple by name in their advertisements. This is UNFAIR, boo hop...
 
Hilarious how all the Apple fanboys immediately leap to the offensive, despite Apple never actually referencing the company. I guess even Appleites know deep down who's copying whom. ;)
Newsflash buddy this is a Apple forum. What did you think was going to happen?
 
So your saying Apple users are not capable of educated discussion?

I don't get your point.
My point is Apple has been hit with a barrage of tacky aggressive ads from MS and Samsung. So when Apple counters with a classy ad, the Apple enthusiasts on this forum are going to be happy about it. I'm sure you own some Apple products you are happy about#
 
Hilarious How...

Hilarious how all the Apple fanboys immediately leap to the offensive, despite Apple never actually referencing the company. I guess even Appleites know deep down who's copying whom. ;)

...either side falls for the bait created by press generating unnecessary amounts of interest. You're all giving validity for this nonsense to continue.

Also just to be clear. This is Macrumors, clue in the first three letters (although the six letters after is missing a U). If you're looking for Macbashing then that's a different site if it exists. LOL. ��
 
My point is Apple has been hit with a barrage of tacky aggressive ads from MS and Samsung. So when Apple counters with a classy ad, the Apple enthusiasts on this forum are going to be happy about it. I'm sure you own some Apple products you are happy about#

I personally cant see how comparing your product to that of rivals is tacky.

Anyway, Apple has been guilty of it in the past - Mac vs PC? ;)

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...either side falls for the bait created by press generating unnecessary amounts of interest. You're all giving validity for this nonsense to continue.

Also just to be clear. This is Macrumors, clue in the first three letters (although the six letters after is missing a U). If you're looking for Macbashing then that's a different site if it exists. LOL. ��

Going by that logic people should only be talking about Macs then?

Regardless of that, your implying that if you own an Apple product you cant say anything negative about the company :confused:
 
What Are...


...we seeing here DaveUK. Appreciate a paragraph or two. Be interested to read your thoughts on this. Clearly an image of a touchscreen device (not multitouch) to illustrate one of many such devices during the iPhones entry to the market?

Cheers

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I personally cant see how comparing your product to that of rivals is tacky.

Anyway, Apple has been guilty of it in the past - Mac vs PC? ;)

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Going by that logic people should only be talking about Macs then?

Regardless of that, your implying that if you own an Apple product you cant say anything negative about the company :confused:


No mate. Perfectly entitled to weigh the pros and cons however noticing the impartiality that's rife in comparison to the balanced opinion briNg offered. I'm definitely saying that being overtly negatively about mac products often appears as bashing, hence the statement around a balanced opinion.
 
Re: not mentioning Samsung by name.

I think Apple might be a bit wary of the possible legal ramifications.

Apple can't have forgotten when multiple UK judges ordered them publish a notice explicitly stating that Samsung had NOT infringed an EU registered tablet design.

A big part of the reason Apple had to do this, is because they had publicly claimed (even after the trial) that Samsung's tablets were illegal copies, trying to scare off retailers and consumers.

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...we seeing here DaveUK. Appreciate a paragraph or two. Be interested to read your thoughts on this. Clearly an image of a touchscreen device (not multitouch) to illustrate one of many such devices during the iPhones entry to the market?

My post was to demonstrate that mobile phones were heading in the same direction as the iPhone. Credit where credit is due to the original iPhone, however other manufactures were also heading int eh same direction.
 
My post was to demonstrate that mobile phones were heading in the same direction as the iPhone. Credit where credit is due to the original iPhone, however other manufactures were also heading int eh same direction.


Yep. Gotcha. Agreed. I would say that the implementation was the key to the iPhones success. It's a device anyone can use.
 
Wow, Apple now became a more classy company to me. They spent tons of money for going green and they took a Jab at Samsung in a classy way. Not like ''Samsung users are idiots, our products are better!!!!!!!!'' like Samsung did. :apple:

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Copying isn't illegal. Innovate faster!

#TeamSamsung

But copying patented ideas is illegal ;)
 
That's not really correct. There are two definitions of innovation (incremental and disruptive), which are agreed in business and accepted in literature and business schools. The problem is that most people don't know these definitions and use them in an incorrect way, leading to the discussions we have everyday on this forum.

No, what I am saying is EXACTLY what you just said.

The definition of innovation varies from person to person. You just said it differently and made it inclusive of any change that comes across the board.

Which is fine, but doesn't negate what I said a few pages ago.

That's what the real problem on the forum is.
 
Guess tomorrow we will see the swiss watch folks take an ad out for " things we don't want apple to copy from us"! Apple is just as bad as the rest of businesses trying to get away from paying royaltees due to companies.
 
Yep. Gotcha. Agreed. I would say that the implementation was the key to the iPhones success. It's a device anyone can use.

That's a very anecdotal statement but I see your point.

I would argue that what made the iPhone a success was it's very specific way of doing very specific things.

Remember it couldn't do what a circa 2003 smartphone could do, but what it could do it did well.
 
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Itself is a good one. In terms of what is believed, that point is subtly made despite an awareness of what that relates to.

In terms of ideas, I think that these are congealing and there are very few original ideas remaining. I'd love for some of the brighter amongst us to point out if there are as mine can't see any. I think there are are ideas improved upon than they are original. I think we will see incremental improvements on a great many things but very few true innovations.

It's been a while since I've seen anything to wow about.

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I'm not dancing around anything. Yes, the overall look includes rounded corners. But that is nowhere close to claiming to invent rounded corners.

I'd agree with you, except that Apple claimed rounded corners to be a protectable (non-functional) ornamental design element on ITS OWN.

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However, multiple judges, and at least one jury, disagreed that rounded corners were not functional. (Obviously they are, to make it safer and nicer to hold.)

Again, almost all phones and tablets contain rounded corners. They aren't all getting sued over their design. Just specific Samsung models.

Apple hired an expert to give testimony as to what Samsung could change in order to not infringe on Apple's design. His list included:

  • Overall shape that isn't rectangular, or doesn't have rounded corners.
  • Thick frames rather than a thin rim around the front surface.
  • Front surface that isn't entirely flat.
  • Profiles that aren't thin.
  • Cluttered appearance.

By stating that Samsung could avoid infringement by NOT using rounded corners, Apple was again claiming that rounded corners belong to them.
 
Re: not mentioning Samsung by name.

I think Apple might be a bit wary of the possible legal ramifications.

Do you really think that or are you just using it as an excuse to bring up that ad that you bookmarked? ;)

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I'd agree with you, except that Apple claimed rounded corners to be a protectable (non-functional) ornamental design element on ITS OWN.

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However, multiple judges, and at least one jury, disagreed that rounded corners were not functional. (Obviously they are, to make it safer and nicer to hold.)



Apple hired an expert to give testimony as to what Samsung could change in order to not infringe on Apple's design. His list included:

  • Overall shape that isn't rectangular, or doesn't have rounded corners.
  • Thick frames rather than a thin rim around the front surface.
  • Front surface that isn't entirely flat.
  • Profiles that aren't thin.
  • Cluttered appearance.

By stating that Samsung could avoid infringement by NOT using rounded corners, Apple was again claiming that rounded corners belong to them.

:rolleyes: No, they were just claiming that each element was a distinctive part of the overall design. Changing any one of these elements could cause the design to not infringe.
 
Do you really think that or are you just using it as an excuse to bring up that ad that you bookmarked? ;)

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:rolleyes: No, they were just claiming that each element was a distinctive part of the overall design. Changing any one of these elements could cause the design to not infringe.

No - that's you're interpretation. Which isn't definitive, now is it?
 
It's funny but also really obnoxious in tone. I don't like seeing Apple do this.

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"leave the world better than we found it".
Really?
Then stop selling all-in-one Macs (a waste of displays!!!).

They fixed that when they added Target Display Mode, which lets you use an iMac as a display even without a hard drive. But before then, yes, they were wasting displays.
 
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