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That's strange. I, too, now doubt the realisticness of the test very slightly. However, look at the Youtube video description. It says that it dropped bars. Apple can't lie about that. Maybe it was 'shopped for some other reason???

Take a look:
All of the test are unrealistic - that is rather the point that Apple is making.
 
I'm loving all of these posts

This is amazing. All of these hate Apple love Android folks are dying. They have no recourse but to go after Apple for simply posting the truth. These are the same folks who made the mountain out of the molehill. Revenge is a dish best served cold.

A recent survey on the money magazine website indicated 80% of iPhone owners would buy an iPhone again while only 20% of Android buyers would do it again. Eventually good triumphs over evil. But, Google says "Don't be evil." That was a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away.
 
Apple should be ashamed of themselves. The gloves are off now. This holiday season, let the vicious marketing begin.

Mobile Phone Wars Begun It Has!

Mobile phone wars are good! We all win.
Competition is good! We all win.
 
Someone!

You know how it doesn't show the 3G logo? I wonder if it doesn't show it when you make a call.

Someone, go to the same screen demo'd in the video, call, and check to see if the 3G symbol is there. Try death-gripping it too.

Or maybe it isn't there because it doesn't have reception?
I want to find this out.
 
Nice.

Mobile phone wars are good! We all win.
Competition is good! We all win.

Very, very, very strong point. I agree fully. This is what drives America's economy and production as well as all capitalism nations.
 
This is amazing. All of these hate Apple love Android folks are dying. They have no recourse but to go after Apple for simply posting the truth. These are the same folks who made the mountain out of the molehill. Revenge is a dish best served cold.

A recent survey on the money magazine website indicated 80% if iPhone owners would buy an iPhone again while only 20% of Android buyers would do it again. Eventually good triumphs over evil.

We're dying? Not according to the mobile market. If anything, we're on the rise. If it's truthful, then what happened to the 3G or 1X in the notifications bar? Why hasn't anyone been able to explain that? Perhaps because it's so mysterious and unnusual that only Apple knows.

A recent survey on the money magazine website indicated 80% of iPhone owners would buy an iPhone again if there is no antenna problem while only 20% of Android buyers would buy an iPhone if their lives depended on it.

... see what I did there? Evidence is necessary.
 
This is amazing. All of these hate Apple love Android folks are dying. They have no recourse but to go after Apple for simply posting the truth. These are the same folks who made the mountain out of the molehill. Revenge is a dish best served cold.

A recent survey on the money magazine website indicated 80% if iPhone owners would buy an iPhone again while only 20% of Android buyers would do it again. Eventually good triumphs over evil.

you're a gimp.
 
This is amazing. All of these hate Apple love Android folks are dying. They have no recourse but to go after Apple for simply posting the truth. These are the same folks who made the mountain out of molehill. Revenge is a dish best served cold.

A recent survey on the money magazine website indicated 80% if iPhone owners would buy an iPhone again while only 20% of Android buyers would do it again. Eventually good triumphs over evil.

Because surveys are ALWAYS unbiased, correct? I have a survey for you. Go to your nearest Planned Parenthood and ask all the people outside with picket signs with pictures of dead fetus' on them if they are against abortion. Then print a "study" somewhere of how 20/20 people are pro-life! NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL HARD DATA!
 
This is amazing. All of these hate Apple love Android folks are dying. They have no recourse but to go after Apple for simply posting the truth. These are the same folks who made the mountain out of the molehill. Revenge is a dish best served cold.

A recent survey on the money magazine website indicated 80% if iPhone owners would buy an iPhone again while only 20% of Android buyers would do it again. Eventually good triumphs over evil. But, Google says "Don't be evil." That was a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away.

Web survey? They are BS.
 
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This is amazing. All of these hate Apple love Android folks are dying. They have no recourse but to go after Apple for simply posting the truth. These are the same folks who made the mountain out of the molehill. Revenge is a dish best served cold.

A recent survey on the money magazine website indicated 80% if iPhone owners would buy an iPhone again while only 20% of Android buyers would do it again. Eventually good triumphs over evil. But, Google says "Don't be evil." That was a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away.

Isn't it mountain out of mogull? Like those little bumps in ski courses?
I'm not disagreeing. In fact, I agree fully.
 
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I love my iPhone, iPods, and MacBook. But Apple is slowly becoming every bit as brash, arrogant, and unlikable as Microsoft was in their heyday.
 
Nonsense. Apple would quite cheerfully walk away, but the other guys in forum just won't let it lie...

apple isn't walking away from this issue now are they? they just posted another video. as another poster said, theyre beating a dead horse..
 
I made a fool of myself!

I don't understand. What's the picture of the original Droid for? lol

OOPS!!! Sorry 'bout that. Wrong pic. Look it up yourself on Google. There is, indeed, a 3G logo normally there.
 
Apple are certainly being disingenuous with their advertising. Sure, gripping any phone causes attenuation.
The intrinsic fault with the iPhone 4 design, however, is actually that you can bridge the antennas with your skin. They're exposed - they're conductive. It's bloody obvious to anybody who has studied basic physics.

Where I live, I only have to touch over the black bar on the bottom left of the phone for it to drop from the 1 or 2 bars that I get to No Service...

Taking it back isn't so simple when you've got so much invested, both time and money, in the general workflow and lifestyle that you've built up in and around iOS. There is also the direct investment in the apps and music that you've purchased.

I also no longer have the 3G that my iPhone 4 replaced...

For me therefore, the phone would not be fit for purpose without a case. As I see it, Apple really had no choice. It would be, in my opinion, wholly unreasonable to expect the cost burden of getting an iPhone 4 to a fit, usable state to be borne out by the customer.
 
apple got what it deserved after spreading the same FUD about Vista. all the advertising that "it just works" and the Mac vs PC ads. and someone actually let Steve Jobs go in front of people and admit that they are fallible. it just opened the flood gates and apple doesn't know how to defend themselves except with these stupid no sound videos.

at least the Mac vs PC ads were funny

but they were right about Vista, were they?
even Microsoft admitted it :)
 
I am still going to get a Droid X to replace my Eris regardless of this as long as Apple isn't on verizon. The way I see it, nobody complained about the Eris or any other smartphone Apple slammed from what I can find before iPhone 4 (please prove me wrong if you can). These excessive signal dropping complaints started with the iPhone 4 and thats where they should stay. Theres a difference between losing a bar and losing all signal to searching mode.

If this is now their PR style, Dell should be blamed for the immanent failure rate on Macbook Air hinges.
 
Look it up.

Web survey? They are BS.

Yeah. Just watch the Dominoes Pizza ad. Did I take that taste test? Did anyone I know take it??? ummmm........... That's even worse than the ads for Meg Whitman for governor of California!
 
You know how it doesn't show the 3G logo? I wonder if it doesn't show it when you make a call.

Someone, go to the same screen demo'd in the video, call, and check to see if the 3G symbol is there. Try death-gripping it too.

Or maybe it isn't there because it doesn't have reception?
I want to find this out.

Good call. You nailed it. They made a call then they brought up the dial pad which hides everything. When you make a call 3G is not displayed.

No funny business here.

I did this on my Droid X. I still couldn't get it to drop bars.
 
I am still going to get a Droid X to replace my Eris regardless of this as long as Apple isn't on verizon. The way I see it, nobody complained about the Eris or any other smartphone Apple slammed from what I can find before iPhone 4 (please prove me wrong if you can). These excessive signal dropping complaints started with the iPhone 4 and thats where they should stay. Theres a difference between losing a bar and losing all signal to searching mode.

If this is now their PR style, Dell should be blamed for the immanent failure rate on Macbook Air hinges.

Did you SEE the video??? It dropped to 0. Please, try to counter Apple's facts with your facts, not your opinions/estimates.
 
Anyone consider the very awkward way that the person holds the Droid X? Why don't they just hold the phones normally and then test it?
 
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Good call. You nailed it. They made a call then they brought up the dial pad which hides everything. When you make a call 3G is not displayed.

No funny business here.

I did this on my Droid X. I still couldn't get it to drop bars.

Thank you so much! Finally, it's clear why there is no 3G logo. I feel proud of my theory :D.

As for the Droid not dropping bars... You're supposed to test it in a low-signal area. However, you may be correct. Apple may be bending the truth after all like those consumer reports did.

Or the iP4 COULD be a failure. It's unlikely, but I don't want to be wrong. Because anything can happen.
 
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