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My 3GS works nice. Never dropped a call :) My iPad? It's got a big black plastic bar at the top and I've been unable to make a call since I got it. :D
 
Not that I disagree with you, but quoting sales number isn't always the best sign of a good product. Walmart sells a lot of crap, but I wouldn't call it quality, same for McDonalds

Thank you.

Apple = McDonalds? :confused:
 
So we have half the posters here saying everyone gets it and Apple is wasting their time demonstrating it in videos.

Then we have the other half who deny that the issue exists in other smartphones, even after seeing the videos.

Very few of the people posting seem to care about observation and facts. This is a problem in the whole industry. Apple is pointing that out because so many people are saying it's just Apple. In fact, iPhone 4 has a great antenna in the sense that reception even when "holding it wrong" is better than most others:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3794/the-iphone-4-review/2

That it's not just minor or obscure grip issues on other phones can be seen by all the cell phone manuals warning users about how NOT to hold their phones:
http://www.techbitts.com/2010/07/collection-of-dont-hold-it-wrong-cell.html

That about sums it up for all the iPhone4 related threads.
 
I think this video is somewhat suspicious. Why is 3G not displayed. Was it photoshoped out? Was the device connected to wifi and is this why 3G is not displayed? If so, where is the wifi signal display and was that photoshoped out?

When my Droid X is connected to Wifi, my bar display goes down 2-3 bars yet the dBm remains the same.

Just wondering what is going on.
 
Wow this is really weird.....To make a long story short I had a doctors apointment today, and my doc had the iphone 4.....him and I got to talking about it and he had said his assistant had the new droid x.....when we got back out into the waiting room he tried the death grip on his droid x and no bars dropped, then my doc and I both tried it on our iphones and sure enough lol ours within seconds dropped to searching......we all got a good chuckle.......at least we get free cases to make our phones work like a phone....this just goes to show you that apple is truly trying to hard to cover it up at this point.....very disapointing.....:(

I Don’t believe it, and I’ve never been in a Dr.’s office where the Dr. had time to go play with phones in his waiting room?
 
Apple has apparently been lying to me about the signal strength on my iPhone 3G for the past 2 years. Certainly explains all those dropped calls when I supposedly had 3+ bars. Why in the world should I believe anything Apple says now?
 
Seriously though. This whole debacle is overhyped, and the white iphone 4 will work fine. Which is why I'm for once glad I did not jump ship early :)
 
apple got what it deserved after spreading the same FUD about Vista. all the advertising that "it just works" and the Mac vs PC ads. and someone actually let Steve Jobs go in front of people and admit that they are fallible. it just opened the flood gates and apple doesn't know how to defend themselves except with these stupid no sound videos.

at least the Mac vs PC ads were funny

Except that Vista actually really really sucks. For real. Not just on ConsumerReviews.com.

Really, if you wanna talk about iPhone 4 vs Vista, go to the other thread. There are plenty of people besides me to satisfy you.
 
Apple has apparently been lying to me about the signal strength on my iPhone 3G for the past 2 years. Certainly explains all those dropped calls when I supposedly had 3+ bars. Why in the world should I believe anything Apple says now?

Then don’t……...
 
no not at all, I'm just saying sales don't always equal a quality product

Oh I know. lol I was just kidding. That is a very interesting analogy though if you look purely at sales figures. Like you said, sales figures does not indicate the quality of the product.
 
Seriously though. This whole debacle is overhyped, and the white iphone 4 will work fine. Which is why I'm for once glad I did not jump ship early :)

sorry to burst your bubble - the white iphone will be manufactured the same way. If they changed the design they would have to go through FCC approval again and that would be public record.

In other words - they would be admitting fault. And the over 3 Million (more by then) customers with Black iPhones would be heading to Apple with pitchforks and lawyers.
 
Perhaps you should know, as I previously stated before, I do own an iPod Touch and iPad. I love them as much as I love my Droid X. Apple makes fantastic, high quality products. I'm not some blind follower. From last time I checked, this thread is about the Droid X. Am I missing something?

Also, I'd much rather have a phone that isn't all the rage amongst preteens. :p

Droid x is competing with iPhone 3GS. Get over it.
 
smartphones are growing and becoming one of the most profitable businesses in the world. The iphone 4 works fine as does the droid x. Its just a bunch of childish people being feed by the industry a bunch of crap.

Agreed and quite frankly my issue is not with the issue but the way companies respond to them. I thinks Apple's response was unacceptable. However, if that is how they want to do business, I will take my business elsewhere.
 
So if you hold a phone like a retard/grip it tightly (very unnatural) it loses a few bars, and keeps the call. Place a metal object to bridge the lower left side of an iPhone 4, or touch it lightly with your finger, or even holding iPhone 4 normaly drops the call, and displays "Searching":confused:

Can someone explain how those are the same?:confused::confused:




Yeah, but take a coathanger and touch it to the iPhone 4 and you get 5 bars in Northern Saskatchewan. It kicks ass!

Seriously, try it - if you have a poor signal - touch any part of the iPhone 4 antenna to a coathanger and voila! It's like having a 4 Watt phone!

Haha!
 
notice apple dont let there iphone 4 signal drop dead to no bars...they let it get to 1 bar then let go:rolleyes::apple:

apple needs to fix there own issues...this is not apple
 
sorry to burst your bubble - the white iphone will be manufactured the same way. If they changed the design they would have to go through FCC approval again and that would be public record.

In other words - they would be admitting fault. And the over 3 Million (more by then) customers with Black iPhones would be heading to Apple with pitchforks and lawyers.

Do they have to get FCC approval for a device that is a different color? If so, was the white approved yet? Maybe that is the delay.
 
As a PR professional for over 20 years I can assure you - this WILL be a case study. But not on how effective the crisis management was handled. But rather the opposite.
You may or may not be in PR, but you show no signs of being a professional (I've seen it from both sides as a business journalist and a PR over the last 18 years. The only PRs I have ever met that are any good are former hacks).
That idiotic email, by the way was to me. You're forgetting that in the middle of one hoopla, Apple tried to smokescreen the public with an entirely different "issue" with the letter about signal strength reporting.
I thought you were the drunken exchange in the middle of the night guy? I meant the "Holding it wrong" retort. The drunken one was just funny.

Anyway, the bars were part of the issues as anyone but retards realise (and much more important that most people admit to - the effect on my phone has been most illuminating): the false readings induced people to think they could make viable calls when they could not, giving the impression that *failed* calls were in fact *dropped* calls.

Apple has never been so transparent in their spin before. It's rather surprising. The PR wheels are spinning - but the general public isn't buying into it like they normally would. They just aren't.
You have absolutely no evidence to back up that assertion. Zero, nada, nothing. Meanwhile, Apple has changed the narrative and the game is not over yet.

Compare with the unwitting stupidity of Nokia who actually made themselves part of the story. Now that was terrible PR advice.

And now (legitimately) the white iPhone is delayed which is ticking off more customers who have been waiting.
Doesn't help, true but note the continued misreporting: its is Foxconn that has let Apple down, but that gets airbrushed.

I have no doubt Apple will be very successful and not be dramatically challenged by this.

But the real test will come with the next gen iPhone. And whether or not this launch and set of issues has an effect on pre-sales and initial sales.
Fancy a trip over to long bet?
 
I'll be the first to say that I agree that many phones have this same issue, and it was probably a smart move for Apple to show the first few videos at the press conference last Friday, but...

APPLE! The horse is already dead! Put down your baseball bats and leave it the hell alone already.
 
I think this video is somewhat suspicious. Why is 3G not displayed. Was it photoshoped out? Was the device connected to wifi and is this why 3G is not displayed? If so, where is the wifi signal display and was that photoshoped out?

When my Droid X is connected to Wifi, my bar display goes down 2-3 bars yet the dBm remains the same.

Just wondering what is going on.

Remember when Apple posted a video of the iPad? It was on CNN.com (or something else, I'm not sure) but I am sure that it was displaying FLASH CONTENT.

I guess it's a mystery, but Apple probably didn't spoof the signal bar drops. That would probably be illegal and definately against Apple's morals and previous actions.

But do you own a Droid X and see the 3G symbol? Or are you assuming there should be one there? Not accusing, just asking.

If you wanna talk "spoofing", notice how the Youtube video of the Droid X only has 305 views. Hmmmmmm........
 
Do they have to get FCC approval for a device that is a different color? If so, was the white approved yet? Maybe that is the delay.

If they change anything which would affect the antenna, sars ratings, etc - then they need to file again. For a change in color - no. That would already be on the books, so to speak.

So again - if something changes that would affect the signal - FCC would need to approve it.
 
Apple has apparently been lying to me about the signal strength on my iPhone 3G for the past 2 years. Certainly explains all those dropped calls when I supposedly had 3+ bars. Why in the world should I believe anything Apple says now?

Who cares what you do or do not believe?
 
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