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Just like Microsoft killed Apple. Oh wait, Microsoft gave Apple a cash injection to save their butt. Would Mr. Jobs have done that if the shoe was on the other foot?

B.S. It is a Myth and there is allot of proof, But just to prove it is not a so called "APPLE FRIENDLY SITE" Try this out at ZDNET.

And get your FACTS correct. You Haters pull this crap all the time and it is LIES and only shows that you are loosing a argument and have nothing in you ammunition box left.

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http://www.zdnet.com/blog/apple/stop-the-lies-the-day-that-microsoft-saved-apple/7036

Here’s the truth:

Back in the summer of 1997, Apple was in trouble with its developers, installed base and investors. The was chaos in Apple’s product lines, SKUs with competing capabilities and positioning. Licensees for the Mac OS were clamoring over a go-ahead for new models. Just six months before, Cupertino had brought back Steve Jobs with his NeXT OS to create Apple’s next-generation OS, but its arrival on the Mac would not come for a long long while.
At the Macworld Expo Boston keynote address, Steve Jobs told the crowd that Apple needed to improve its relationships. “It needs help from other partners; it needs to help other partners.”

Of course, these “partners” Jobs mentioned weren’t the ones that most of the attendees hoped to hear about — its Mac OS licensees. Instead, that partner was Microsoft. Surprise! The crowd around me in the Armory hall booed the announcement.
hen, like Big Brother in the famous Apple Superbowl ad, Microsoft CEO and Chairman Bill Gates appeared above us on a huge overhead projection and made his own set of promises. The first was an investment of $150 million in Apple stock.

Gates then said that Microsoft would continue to develop a Mac version of Office for at least 5 more years. In addition, the next version of Office would be a real Mac program and not warmed over Windows leftovers. “It will be more advanced than what’s on the Windows platform.”

This is the event that has been framed as Microsoft “saving” Apple. That Gates and Microsoft did a good deed for Apple, offered a helping hand out to the poor GUI interface cousin that was seeing bad days. And after the announcement, Apple’s stock went up, which some saw as proof. Analysts revised their predictions of Apple’s future prospects from “dead or dying” to “doomed.”

Here are some backstory that recasts the myth in a different light:

•Microsoft’s $150 stock investment was the result of a settlement of a lawsuit. In fact, the investment was just an initial payment for other “substantial balancing payments” that would be spread out over then next few years, then Apple CFO Fred Anderson said at the time.

The exact amount of the settlement is still unknown as far as I am aware. I’ve seen estimates from $500 million to more than $1 billion.

•The two companies would cross-license all their existing patents, and any new patents that would become available during the next five years.

•That Apple would make Internet Explorer the default browser for the Mac. If this seems strange, then understand that it meant that Microsoft would support IE for the next 5 years, during a time when IE was the primary browser on the market and when sites were designed specifically to support it.
By David Morgenstern | May 30, 2010 "ZDNET"
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We get the point.

I see why Apple is making it very clear though. There is nothing that they can do about the signal dropping is what they are saying. EVERY phone does it. People keep saying that it is a PR nightmare. Apple is saying if it is, then it is a nightmare for all companies.
 
Are you in a week signal area, you have to be in a week signal for phones to do it, at least that’s been my experience.

All the time actually. Working in an RF dev. lab with tons of interference causes pretty bad service and I don't think I ever see that on any phone do that unless it's on its way to dropping anyway.

If I have some sort of service, and I'm even just a few dB from sensitivty, I'll usually see at least 1x and a bar.

Something's going on here - that's not a normal condition.

For shame!
 
So where is this global uprising over signal issues on the Android phones ?

Over the past month Apple has taken a beating from media, trolls, customers, etc over how their phone loses signal when held in the death grip. Apple came out and told everyone that this is an issue that affects every smartphone on the market. So they continue their videos just to prove their point that all smartphones are affected by the deathgrip.

You call them classless, I call them justifying their responses from their press conferences. They lost millions of dollars from people that panicked over a little issue, and now they have to work to get their reputation back.
 
Here's the thing, everyone else has Ben playing dirty with their videos ofthe iPhone 4. Apple fights back and now everyone considers Apple to be the beast. Apple is fighting fire with fire.

Who's they?? The consumer some in the media?
I didn't see nokia, motorola, HTC, etc making any videos. Pot shots from motorola maybe. But no dirty videos from any manufacturers.
 
What a great day!

This is like watching a funeral procession. Each nerd is mourning the death of their favorite Android phone. They really thought that they had finally escaped judgement. But, here it comes, SJ drives a stake in the heart and it's dead. Android has just ceased to exist. It will keep trying to suck a little blood, but everyone knows it's over.
 
just had a thought that i'd like to put out there. Apple or AT&T (i forget which) said that they made some network optimizations for the iPhone 4. What if these optimizations aren't implemented in some areas? That would seem to explain this entire issue! Please, someone, respond to this with at least one hate post. I'm bored...
 
Mistake

I think this is a mistake by Apple.

I thought the press conference was pretty good. Steve Jobs said that all phones have this problem, which I believe (although I also think some phones suffer more from this problem than others), said Apple's customers are important, and offered free cases to those who want to keep their phones and refunds for those who don't.

They should have left it at that. So a few companies run ad's that say their phones don't suffer from this problem. Who cares? Do you really think someone who wants to buy an iPhone 4 is going to be persuaded to buy another phone by some stupid ad?

If Apple would have stopped after the press conference, there would have been a few tasteless ad's from competitors for a month or two and the issue would have faded away.

But by continuing to try to prove their point Apple only fuels the fire and makes people wonder if there is a more serious problem. I think this is driven by Steve Job's bruised ego. Not that he hasn't accomplished a lot to justify the ego, but you can't let it dictate your business decisions.
 
This is like watching a funeral procession. Each nerd is mourning the death of their favorite Android phone. They really thought that they had finally escaped judgement. But, here it comes, SJ drives a stake in the heart and it's dead. Android has just ceased to exist. It will keep trying to suck a little blood, but everyone knows it's over.

Huh?
 
That giant sucking sound you hear is the sound of Fanboids and iPhone haters crawling back to their Mom's basements with their egos bruised and feelings hurt hoping Apple won't bring any further evidence making them look more and more like fools over "Antennaegate" by the day.
 
PM me your email address and I'll fwd my confirmation email to you - and then you can come back to this thread and apologise.

Awesome, enjoy your gigantic phone with its crude app library.

I held the phone the same way in the video and it's incredibly unnatural. Only retarded people hold it that way.

Interestingly, I find holding the iPhone in the way demonstrated all over the Web (corner of phone buried in palm while phone is held up to ear???) to be incredibly unnatural as well. I suppose your "retarded people" label applies here as well?

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I own a Droid X and it does display the 3G symbol. It's very odd that in the video, it happens to be missing. There had to be some kind of editing or tampering for that 3G to disappear.

Yes i own a Droid X. Only time 3G or 1X is not displayed is when connected to WiFi.

I don't have a Droid, but the Android-lovin' commenteers on Engadget seemed to indicate that the 3G symbol does not display during an actual phone call. I can neither confirm nor deny.
 
I think macrumors published this story so they could weed out the fandroids trolling this forum.

That antenna song keeps popping into my head. The media loves a failure among successes, I still think that the snow leopard data loss bug, and the iMac screen problems, were much bigger deals than this, yet no one ever cared to talk much about those problems.

If the antenna wasnt exposed in the band, this would not have got the same amount of attention. It would have gotten no more attention than the Nexus.

People who dont have iPhones are thinking that touching = no service. That is simply not the case, unless you already have 2 bars or less...

That being said I like how Steve and Apple are defending themselves.

If they wouldve just made the phone a millimeter wider this whole thing couldve been averted.
 
Nice read. I really didn't know that. Heard people say that micro sift saved apple, but never knew it was true.
Thanks.

That Wired Story has Been debunked over and over, Do some more research, Here are more links to the other i had added from ZDNET.

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http://www.zdnet.com/blog/apple/stop-the-lies-the-day-that-microsoft-saved-apple/7036

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http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/RDM.Tech.Q1.07/592FE887-5CA1-4F30-BD62-407362B533B9.html

•a cross licensing agreement
•a five year deal for continued development of Office for the Mac platform
•the designation of Internet Explorer as the default Mac web browser
•a small but symbolic $150 million investment by Microsoft in Apple
And More

Lets stop the lies before the young ones think its true.
Read ALL the links Read them all and educate yourself with truth not lies.
 
This is complete BS. My Droid X does not do this.

In addition, forget bars, lets look at dBm.

Come Apple try being truthful for once and stop playing childish games.

dBm
dBm
dBm

You are being too emotional. I own an iPhone 4, and I don't have this problem. By your reasoning, this whole affair is BS.
 
I see why Apple is making it very clear though. There is nothing that they can do about the signal dropping is what they are saying. EVERY phone does it. People keep saying that it is a PR nightmare. Apple is saying if it is, then it is a nightmare for all companies.

Sure every phone does it - the question becomes how much.

Apple never shows the signal loss metric on these phones, and removed the ability for the user to check this in iOS 4. Before, we could log into the field test mode to see this, but just when they they release a phone where signal loss is a significant issue, they drop this ability from the phones OS.

Using the signal bars as a metric is pure smoke and mirrors.
 
That giant sucking sound you hear is the sound of Fanboids and iPhone haters crawling back to their Mom's basements with their egos bruised and feelings hurt hoping Apple won't bring any further evidence making them look more and more like fools over "Antennaegate" by the day.

+1
 
How long before one of these companies hits back and produces a video of the one finger kill switch on the iPhone 4? Apple really are getting desprate to cover up their flaw.
 
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