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Too much now for a company who we love

I think this is too much now for apple. Why they concern about others.... Just get things moving and improve yourself... It doesn't matter whether other company have a same problem or not.. The st important thing is improve yourself. The more apple show this the more they just become like them... That is what i don't want to see...

Apple should become a superior product manufacturer not this
 
We can't fix it so we'll attack our competitors.

Apple continues their pettiness--I think maybe it's time for Jobs to leave.

Apple is doing this because of the huge threat of Android.

Android is eating Apple's lunch in the smart phone market and soon the tablet market.

When you are scared and desperate you take desperate measures--just what this is.


You apparently know nothing about the smart phone market. You can combine the profits of every Android handset manufacturer, toss in all their profits from other phones too, sprinkle all of Nokia's profits on-top for good measure, and Apple still makes more off of whatever 2 iPhone models are on the market at that time.

If by "eating Apple's lunch" you mean "on the verge of collapse just trying to stay competitive", you are correct!
 
  • So Nokia isn't mentioned, but comments anyway - suddenly Nokia is mentioned.
  • Droid X is left out, but Motorola's founder can't keep quiet. Bang.

The message is simple: "Keep off the grass".

There you go.

They weren't mentioned initially, they chime in, and they get revealed.

Simple.
 
What an idiotic statement. So by your childish response I should continue to support a company just because their stock is doing well.

Just because one million people agree on something doesn't necessarily make it right.

Correct, us one million people are stupid and your a rocket scientist?
You win.....
 
Why is the 3G symbol missing from the Droid X screenshots? I wonder what they had to tinker with to get that result . . .
 
Dude, you don't have a clue. dBm is only PART of what factors into good or bad reception. One phone could measure a lower dBm level and still have a better quality and more reliable connection because of how it processes the signal. Saying you have to compare dBm is like comparing RPM's in engines. My car's RPM's are much lower than my lawnmowers, does that mean my car is slower than my lawnmower?

Are you saying comparing bars is better?
 
It’s all very complex and strange. I can’t get my iPhone 4 to do it most of the time, but in some places I can! I’ve had Droid X users tell me that the Droid X is immune to grip factors. Apparently not.

What matters more than demos is real-world experience of how well the phone works in your life. That will vary widely, but I know I’m happy with mine! And the Droid X seems to be a fairly good unit too, at least for an Android phone stuck on Verizon’s poor data service.

Just get a nice pair of tongs. It’s not the end of the world.
 
Grasping at straws. Do they honestly think they are fooling anyone? And look at the way they have to hold the phone to make it go down. Talk about DEATH grip. I'm surprised the plastic casing didn't crack.

F-F-F-FF-F-F-F-FANBOY!

Dude, you call that an abnormal grip? It looked like the guy was holding it normally, not squeezing it hard.
Grasping at straws...
 
Love To See The Fandroids Whining

Would you like some cheese with your "whine"?...

Of course big bad Steve Jobs is actually satan and he forced you to buy that horrible old iPhone 4 didn't he....."yes he did, oh dear, and and then he"....(ad nauseum)

All this cheesy whining makes me hungry....

I think I'll reach for an...:apple:
 
Agree! Watch the video and notice where his index finger is placed. It's placed in an awkward position on the top of the phone? Come on apple, no one holds it like that!

On the other hand, if you hold the iphone 4 in a natural way then that bars/reception goes down.

I really like apple products, but they are acting real dirty right now.

By the way, my old samsung flip phone had a sticker on the top-back side that said, do not cover this area during a call because the antenna will be affected and you could lose reception. This idea of not touching the antenna has been well known way before the iphone 4. It's only becoming apparent now because 1. it's apple and 2. they put the antenna in a bad place where you would touch it simply by holding it naturally.




So what... Hold it differently or "don't hold it like that"... Isn't that the exact sme comment from steve-o that got everyone's panties in a bunch.... And you now think it is a plausible reaction to this video? Come on now...
 
F-F-F-FF-F-F-F-FANBOY!

Dude, you call that an abnormal grip? It looked like the guy was holding it normally, not squeezing it hard.
Grasping at straws...

Yea, if you like to tickle your face while talking on the phone. The dud has his fingers wrapped around on the front of the phone.
 
Lets just conveniently forget the fact that most people holding a phone normally will have a finger or part of their hand over that spot? Yea?

iPhone 4 isn't plagued by a death grip; the finger of death would be more appropriate. I'd like to see Apple touch competitors' phones with a single finger in a spot and try to recreate the signal issue.

My home is in an area where I only get around 4 out of 7 bars on my Nokia smartphone; not exceptional at all. I can do whatever grip I want with my phone and it's still 4 out of 7 bars. I can even wrap the entire phone with both my hands and experience no loss of reception. Explain that Apple.

What's so magical and revolutionary about a design flaw? Stop shoving the blame off yourself and do something about it other than bringing other companies down to your level Apple. Apple's more concerned about their pride and image being destroyed by a recall than the satisfaction of their customers. You should start worrying now.

I'll rewrite what I wrote someone else:

You're basically saying bridging the gap shorts the antennae and drops a call. Period.

Let's discuss. 1) The metal bands around the phone are the antennae. Meaning, touching the phone normally bridges the gap regardless because all your fingers attach to your hands. 2) Shorting antennae means they wouldn't work at all. Meaning no one at any time, regardless of signal strength, could make a phone call holding the phone at all. Which just isn't the case.

This is simply about signal strength and the "death grip." People like you are trying to point out something that isn't even a problem. I have death gripped and pinky touched my iPhone 4 and nothing happens. I just happen to have strong signal. Unlike other phones, of all shapes and sizes and brands, that can lose dramatic signal in low signal strength areas. It's just the reality whether you want to believe it or not.

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Now to your other point, you're doing exactly what Apple's doing. Comparing the issue they were accused of on other phones and proving it's an issue with all phones. I can put my pinky, index, middle fingers and toes all over the gap of my iPhone 4 and nothing happens. Just like your Nokia can get better signal than your iPhone 4. It's a fact of life with all phones. Now I just proved that to you. But I doubt you'll take that in.

You're glazing over the absolute FACT that this issue isn't a design flaw since it doesn't affect everyone. If it were a design flaw, it's so part and partial of the design of the antennae it would affect every single person equally by shorting the antennae and dropping all calls it made. But, again, this probably won't change your mind. For some crazy reason.
 
Highlight the positives, yes...

What is Apple trying to show? The iPhone 4 has the same bad signal issues other phones have? This is not a typical Apple move -- they usually showcase the positives of their own products.

Don't get me wrong; I love my iPhone 4. I just want Apple to move on and keep highlighting the positives.

-Aaron-

...but not when the competition is more than happy to perpetuate some perceived Apple-only issue. Apple has every right, and should counter this nonsense in this fashion..."high road" be dammmed.
 
apparently 3.5 million people in 22 days thought it wasnt a big deal, i doubt the droid x will sell anywhere close to that number



but either way, all this bickering over reception and nobody ever mentions the FCC who is the the real enemy here. They restrict radio frequencies down to the point where the US has some of the worst and slowest cellular coverage in the world. they also restrict internet bandwidth, to the point where we are also close to the slowest.... if only they would allow more/better frequencies then we would never have reception issues again
 
Yea, if you like to tickle your face while talking on the phone. The dud has his fingers wrapped around on the front of the phone.

Thats how I hold my phone. It's not an Android or an iPhone so surely there must be something wrong with my post though.
 
The very fact Apple delayed the release of the white-back iPhone 4 tells me only one thing: Apple is quietly redesigning the iPhone 4 to correct two known problems with the device.

When the white-back iPhone 4 is released, don't be surprised you see changed internal circuitry to fix the proximity sensor issue and to improve reception quality and possibly a clear plastic covering over the metal antenna to prevent the electrical charge from the human body interfere with the cellphone reception. And that also means black-back iPhone 4's after a certain serial number will also incorporate the fixes, too.
 
Lately when I tell people I have the iPhone 4 they immediately ask about the antenna. It's become the iP4's reputation.

Agreed. I'm getting tired of telling people "YES, MY iPHONE WORKS JUST FINE, THANKS!" The media hysteria about this issue (surely helped along by the PR departments at Motorola, HTC, Google, etc.) is absurd.

What Apple is doing with these videos is laying down some heavy incentive for competitors to quit using iPhone death grip garbage in their PR and advertising.

The Fandroids just aren't liking what they see: the truth. *shrug*
 
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