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I really hope they keep upgrading the 6/7/8 line of iPhones with touch ID and a rectangular screen. I put off my upgrade cycle by a year last year because I thought the X was too expensive and too full of ridiculous compromises. I'd like to upgrade this year, but again, not if the X line is all that's new.
 
Here we go again with the absurd rumors that turn out to not be true most of the time.
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The upgrade program requires 12 payments before qualifying for an upgrade.

I know what it requires - did you even read my question?

What I'm saying is that they market it as a "new phone every year" however, those that bought the iPhone X on launch day will theoretically never be able to get a new phone at launch again (assuming Apple goes back to the traditional late September launch period) unless they pay the additional 2 months of payments. Which basically means you're paying for two months of a phone that you're not using effectively increasing the cost of your new phone.
 
Wonder how apple will handle those on the Apple Upgrade Program who bought an iPhone X in November and wish to upgrade to an iPhone X Plus in September. Will they do an even swap or will they make you pay the remaining 2 payments?
You will pay. Duh. I got mine in December and so I either wait or I pay.
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I know what it requires - did you even read my question?

What I'm saying is that they market it as a "new phone every year" however, those that bought the iPhone X on launch day will theoretically never be able to get a new phone at launch again (assuming Apple goes back to the traditional late September launch period) unless they pay the additional 2 months of payments. Which basically means you're paying for two months of a phone that you're not using effectively increasing the cost of your new phone.
Your point makes no sense. Yes, a new phone can be had every year. A year from when you bought it. Launch day for new devices has nothing whatsoever to do with that. If you want to trade phones before the year is up you pay the difference, there should be no confusion as it is quite simple.
 
How tragic to spend a full version number mainly on stability and have your sheep followers applauding (that apparently come to accept mediocrisy as The Norm...)

Absolutely every large smartphone manufacturer has had at least one reset update where they fixed problems instead of introducing new features. This includes Google, Samsung, LG, Motorola, Apple, etc. Should everyone abandon a phone at the first software glitch? Is anyone who sticks with whatever brand they currently prefer that has a problem a ‘sheeple’?
 
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Yay the lack of availability hype begins again. Love this time of year :)

Apple hit the absolute limits of what they could charge for a phone with the X last year. The paid the price for that to some extent. They may also find that people who DID buy the X will be far less inclined to now upgrade every year. I used to but I can't justify that kind of price for something I don't need EVERY year.

The X should tide me over for a while despite the incoming incremental upgrades of marginally better camera features, faster Face ID, and pseudo 'upgrades' that amount to functionality they chose not to offer on older devices.
I don't think Apple hit any limit or paid any price for iPhone X pricing. They sold more iPhone X than any other model since it's release. That tells me (and Apple) that there is room to go higher with pricing.

Now maybe those upgrades will slow and customers will be happy with their iPhone X models for years to come, but I thought I was happy with my 7+ until I saw the X. If they introduce a better X or an 11, I could be swayed along with millions of other X owners.
 
You will pay. Duh. I got mine in December and so I either wait or I pay.
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Your point makes no sense. Yes, a new phone can be had every year. A year from when you bought it. Launch day for new devices has nothing whatsoever to do with that. If you want to trade phones before the year is up you pay the difference, there should be no confusion as it is quite simple.


Agree to disagree then.
 
Lather, rinse, repeat. I'll take Apple's own guidance any day over supply chain blathering. Apple is legally bound by SEC rules when offering guidance. Rumor mongers are not.
 
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Calling it now: analysts will again put too much emphasis on some supply chain numbers that don’t directly correlate to how many iPhones will be sold, and Apple will have another record quarter due to an iPhone XS Plus. As usual there will be relentless negativity.

From Apple's most recent quarter:

"Apple sold 52.2 million iPhones in the fiscal second quarter, up 2.9 percent from a year earlier. Analysts had projected of 52.3 million, on average, although some investors expected fewer units."

Source: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...estimates-on-services-growth-iphone-stability

Sounds to me like the analysts got it exactly right.
 
Agree to disagree then.
Agreed. You get a phone a year from when you bought the one you have. It is quite simple. If you bought it in September, you get a new one in September. If you bought it in July, you get a new one in July. You want an early upgrade you pay the difference as agreed upon in the terms of service for the Apple Upgrade Plan. There is really nothing confusing about it.
 
The 12 month requirement to upgrade was part of the reason I went with the 8 plus last year instead of waiting for the X. I wanted to be able to get the plus sized X when it launches this year instead of having to either wait 2 months or pay an extra 2 months for a device I won’t be using anymore.

Having the most latest thing “now” or the moment it comes out is never is cheap. You get to pay for that privilege.
 
Lather, rinse, repeat. I'll take Apple's own guidance any day over supply chain blathering. Apple is legally bound by SEC rules when offering guidance. Rumor mongers are not.

Yeah...but but but...this might be the beginning of Apple's apocalypse and they won't hit their guidance!

Yeah, that's it.

People refuse to learn, and are itching for Apple's demise. I guess that's the only way (some) people can feel good and find happiness.
 
Have my 8 and don't plan on updating this year (have been yearly since the 4)...smartphone shipments worldwide declined in 2017 I believe. The huge leaps in performance increases that happened year to year are over and upgrading to have a face unlock process isn't enough of a motivator for me (and probably a good chunk of other people).

We'll see how it all pans out. That said - Apple and Sammy will likely be the only two profitable smartphone companies out there at the end of 2019.
 
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Nah the first iPhone was actually redic expensive. Like 400€ on contract but around the 4S/5 area it was less than 700

I don't remember prices in $ but in Euro. iPhone 4 was 659E, iPhone 8 is 839E, that's almost 200E in 7 years.
Inflation has nothing to do with it as is very low now. Apple just found out people were willing to spend more money for the iPhone and they raised the price. There is nothing wrong with it, but it's their decision.

I don't think Apple hit any limit or paid any price for iPhone X pricing. They sold more iPhone X than any other model since it's release. That tells me (and Apple) that there is room to go higher with pricing.

Now maybe those upgrades will slow and customers will be happy with their iPhone X models for years to come, but I thought I was happy with my 7+ until I saw the X. If they introduce a better X or an 11, I could be swayed along with millions of other X owners.

I was happy with my iPhone 5 then iPhone 6 was announced and I really wanted a bigger display. Then I decided to move on and try something even bigger and I got an 8+ now. I bought it via a carrier with an upgrade program so I'll be able to have a new phone this fall and I'll have another screen size, either 5.8 or 6.1 if they'll make it.
Eventually I'll find the perfect screen size to me, and of course I'll need to change my smartphone from time to time but I doubt I'll have a compelling reason to upgrade every year.
I think iPhone will continue to have an high price, I don't know if they'll go higher than X but they won't drop the prices either. My point is they'll reach a point when smartphones will be like PCs, a mature market. Smartphones, unlike PCs, are more subject to wear and tear, you can lose them so I don't expect smartphones to last 10 years like a PC, but they won't sell hundreds of millions of them every year.
 
Agreed. You get a phone a year from when you bought the one you have. It is quite simple. If you bought it in September, you get a new one in September. If you bought it in July, you get a new one in July. You want an early upgrade you pay the difference as agreed upon in the terms of service for the Apple Upgrade Plan. There is really nothing confusing about it.

If you can't understand the argument I'm attempting to make you aren't worth fighting with...
 
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