I am sure Apple knows the best way to manage this. They'll still continue to have great quarters. It's been the same doom and gloom for years, just hasn't happened.
I'm in no rush for a new iPhone. My 7 has been working perfectly well and I don't want a phone that's ALL glass. With the $29 battery replacement I expect my phone to keep working fine for another 2 years. After the 7, there hasn't been any new features that I "must have". I suspect we're nearing, or have already hit, smartphone peak.
Or, or, just bear with me here... they've learned all too well. They've learned to manipulate the market so well that even lay people can tell what time of year it is based on analyst predictions.They just don’t learn, do they?
One underestimates Apple to their own detriment.
Are you referring to the latest version of Android? Oh wait there event two months ago only featured things Apple did last year, but it was new to them I guess. There a great YouTube video showing off the coolest 100 new or updated features for IOS 12. Many times Apples updates aren’t fresh to the public in recent years because of all the leaks months or sometimes years in advance to them fully developing the tech to make it work on the level they require. Remember the IPad was really initially shelved to do the iPod because the touch screen technology did not exist to realize their vision.How tragic to spend a full version number mainly on stability and have your sheep followers applauding (that apparently come to accept mediocrisy as The Norm...)
Or, or, just bear with me here... they've learned all too well. They've learned to manipulate the market so well that even lay people can tell what time of year it is based on analyst predictions.
Analyst aren't fans. They don't care whether Apple does well or not. They just care if Apple can make them money.
This reminds me of MacOS 10.5 Leopard.
Leopard was a very new feature heavy, but very unstable, RAM hungry, and had a huge footprint. Apple acknowledge the problems with Leopard, and concentrated on stability and user experience, rather than a bunch of new features for Snow Leopard.
I think it was a smart choice, as 10.6 is probably the most stable version of OSX.
The 12 month requirement to upgrade was part of the reason I went with the 8 plus last year instead of waiting for the X. I wanted to be able to get the plus sized X when it launches this year instead of having to either wait 2 months or pay an extra 2 months for a device I won’t be using anymore.
Having the most latest thing “now” or the moment it comes out is never is cheap. You get to pay for that privilege.
Calling it now: analysts will again put too much emphasis on some supply chain numbers that don’t directly correlate to how many iPhones will be sold, and Apple will have another record quarter due to an iPhone XS Plus. As usual there will be relentless negativity.
Stock manipulation 101. Lather, rinse, repeat.
Yeah, and gasoline used to be 25 cents a gallon 'back in the day'
I very much doubt that the yearly upgraders made up more than 10% (if that much) of all iPhone sales. If every fifth from that group then decides to switch to two years, that only reduces iPhone sales by 2%.Apple hit the absolute limits of what they could charge for a phone with the X last year. The paid the price for that to some extent. They may also find that people who DID buy the X will be far less inclined to now upgrade every year. I used to but I can't justify that kind of price for something I don't need EVERY year.
The problem is you're trying to apply "fan logic" to capitalism. It doesn't work. You care about Apple, they don't. They care about making money. You'd point to Apple's revenue and profit. They'd point to Apple YoY sales decline. You'd say Apple's positive numbers should drive the market. They'd say Apple's growth (or lack thereof) is the determining factor.Sadly, I think you are right. I would like to think that after the last round of negative iPhone news was proven to be dead wrong, people would learn to be a little wiser and more skeptical of any news that spreads doom and gloom about Apple, but I guess there’s just something about Apple which draws the haters and the naysayers out of the woodwork.
All I can say is - bring it on (cracks knuckles).
Obviously i know wtf i signed... I'm saying apple releasing the X at a later time then releasing it earlier the following year is messing everyone up with the iPhone plan.Then don't agree to the terms of service and buy your phone some other way. I don't see the issue.
Yeah but they end up with clicks either way. They generate interest with this and then when the phone launches, long before we get any firm numbers, they'll be talking about how the phone is doing poorly because availability is good.They just don’t learn, do they?
One underestimates Apple to their own detriment.
Wonder how apple will handle those on the Apple Upgrade Program who bought an iPhone X in November and wish to upgrade to an iPhone X Plus in September. Will they do an even swap or will they make you pay the remaining 2 payments?
I don’t see Apple giving up millions of dollars for loyalty. Either someone will need to compress their 12 month obligation into a shorter time period (effectively raising the per month fee) or wait. Apple won’t give up that much money just for goodwill. Now I can see them adding the overage onto the monthly payments instead of making people pay it upfront. That would solve the problem without them losing out on millions.It will be interesting to see if Apple decides to leverage the most loyal of their customer base by offering to wave their final 1-2 payment(s) if they preordered the X last October.
I very much doubt the masses even know what 10 bit color is. Most displays for years were really 6 bit and people thought they were awesome. What will trigger upgrading is likely going to be more computational photography options.10-bit color "capture & display" is the ONLY new feature / capability that will prompt the masses to Upgrade ... and AAPL very-likely knows this ... as such, if they are reducing their Orders, then 10-bit color support is very-likely NOT being added later this year![]()
We're close to the 4th page of comments. So to answer your question... never.At what point do rumor sites stop printing this garbage? Every year it’s the same crap then Apple reports record numbers. Rinse and repeat.
People paying a premium for mediocrisy come pretty close to that qualificationAbsolutely every large smartphone manufacturer has had at least one reset update where they fixed problems instead of introducing new features. This includes Google, Samsung, LG, Motorola, Apple, etc. Should everyone abandon a phone at the first software glitch? Is anyone who sticks with whatever brand they currently prefer that has a problem a ‘sheeple’?
The problem is you're trying to apply "fan logic" to capitalism. It doesn't work. You care about Apple, they don't. They care about making money. You'd point to Apple's revenue and profit. They'd point to Apple YoY sales decline. You'd say Apple's positive numbers should drive the market. They'd say Apple's growth (or lack thereof) is the determining factor.
You talk about analysts and forum "haters" as if they are the same or the arguments against either group are interchangeable. They're not and they're not. Analyst aren't haters. They're capitalists.