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LOL, are you really THIS deluded? It's about money, pure and simple. Apple controls everything and you have no choice but to pay the higher price.

I suggest the following for you:

1) Return your iDevice.
2) Buy a device from a lame manufacturer who allows you to hack and open up whatever you want because you paid for it.
3) Enjoy your device.

Problems solved!
 
It's one thing to buy an iPhone with specialty screws already installed. It's another to replace standard screws with specialty screws, without telling the customers.

IMO, this is just wrong.

When do they do this? While I'm sleeping does SJ's elves come down the ISDN chimney and swap out all my screws?

I bet that's it! That would account for the missing underwear too! :D
 
It is not illegal to repair or dismantle anything you OWN. Period. And you don't need AUTHORIZATION from Apple or any manufacturer to open said product. Period. There are billions of examples of people doing their own car repairs, tv repairs, computer repairs, appliance repairs, etc. Some repairs need a high level of expertise, some do not. I easily change my oil and air filter in my car but I certainly do not muck around with all the belts. And there are bazillions of people who swap out/change/upgrade their own ram, hard drives, dvd burners, video cards, etc. on personal computers.

Typical american mentality. Have you ever thought about why some things are put in place to prevent servicing? Wait, because you can open it up yourself does not mean it's ok - so what if you do and because you are so adamant about servicing it yourself you do something wrong and end up hurting yourself? You sue the company? Man, stop with the nonsense. If you gonna open up a non-serviceable phone like the iPhone4, then you gonna open it up regardless of what screws they put in. But the real issue is that it's an inconvenience to you because wait, you don't have the right tool to do it and that chaps your arse...
 
As soon as I finish opening and un-screwing all the screws in my TV, MaBook Pro, iPhones, iPods, car stereo, refrigerator, DVR, oven, garage door opener, Wii, xbox, Atari 2600, and Commodore Vic 20, I'll see if the new custom screws on the iPhone 4 messes with my unalienable right to screw things.
 
Oh please. Calm the ****** down. Here's counting down the minutes before you can find pentalobular screwdrivers on ebay for $1.00 each :rolleyes:

Ten...
 
Torx screws are simply better screws! They are less likely to strip, and as their name implies, provide much better torque control in pressure critical applications.

Lost is that the fact that these screws don't strip as easily as the Phillips do, but who cares about that.

Nice try, but if that were the real reason they would have used one of the many existing torx designs that are already out there.
 
Torx screws are simply better screws! They are less likely to strip, and as their name implies, provide much better torque control in pressure critical applications.

My suggestion: if you really want to open any electronic device, go buy the right ********** tool for the job.

These ARE NOT Torx screws. They look similar, but are not the same. But yes, I agree with you on you statements about Torx screws.
 
This is absolutely silly IMO. Proprietary screws are only proprietary for so long. It's companies like Apple that will make our toolboxes explode eventually, as they keep inventing new ridiculous screw head designs to keep us out. You will only keep us out for so long.
 
There are several papers published by electronics assembly automation groups that are quite pricey to access. I stand by my statement.

And there is experimental evidence that suggests that there is no advantage. Given the choice between an expensive, proprietary industrial research paper and evidence, I usually go with the latter. Most others do as well.

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.
 
When do they do this? While I'm sleeping does SJ's elves come down the ISDN chimney and swap out all my screws?

I bet that's it! That would account for the missing underwear too! :D
Nice bit of snark...

They do it to everyone who takes their iPhone 4 in for repair.

Next time, maybe read the thread???
 
This is just Apple's way of 'testing' if you're worthy enough to open up their hardware. This is great news people.

I for one, welcome our new pentalobular overlords.
 
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The real news here is that chick is a nerd angel. I want to thank apple for using new screws.
 
I do not agree with that video in any way, shape or form.

Apple has every right to keep their customers from opening and hacking, modifying and/or copying their products. Period.

Its being protective on their part, What's wrong with that?

The belief of "I can do whatever I want with it when I purchased it" is the belief of too much entitlement. Thinking we're entitled to do whatever we want.

But in my opinion, There are rules in this world that I do believe should be followed, Whether or not you agree with the rules is your problem.

To me it seems like a lot, (not everyone) but a lot of people now-a-days are little brats, That grew up to be big brats as adults. They pitched a fit when their parents said "No, Don't do that." So now that Apple has started "baby-proofing" their products, A lot of immature people are starting to whine and complain.

If your device needs fixing, Apple will fix it, or a C-E-R-T-I-F-I-E-D Apple repair center will fix it. Otherwise, I believe there is absolutely NO reason for the "need to get inside" your Apple iPhone.

I also believe that the reason Apple is only letting certified people purchase the proper tools is because the tools get into the hands of the wrong people, Too many people who don't know what they are doing get inside their devices. Mess things up and then complain and blame Apple or try to get a new device.

As far as replacing Hard Drives and RAM goes, That I think there should be a little work around. But if it comes down to "No, Apple will no longer let their users open up and access the internal components of their devices."

So. Be. It.

I formally apologize if I make anyone upset by my views on this topic, But I'm taking Apple's side, Not out of being a fan-boy, But because I think they have the rights as a corporation to have any control over their products.

If it were up to me, I'd have a jail-break alarm, So that if someone jail-breaks, or opens up their device (without putting in the proper passcode). The device locks down and sends an alert to Apple.

Solution, You want your stuff back, You restore and do things within the terms and conditions.
 
If it were up to me, I'd have a jail-break alarm, So that if someone jail-breaks, or opens up their device (without putting in the proper passcode). The device locks down and sends an alert to Apple.
You know there was just a U.S. Copyright Office decision passed down last July that basically says people have the right to jailbreak their own smartphones, right?
 
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If these screws keep some numbnuts from opening their iDevice or MacBook Air and breaking it and then trying to cry warranty, then I'm all for it. I see too many MacBooks coming into our store in bits because the Mom and Pop PC Repair store couldn't put them back together again.
 
However, if you do break it, you do not have a right to take it in for warranty repair.

Please stop using the word "right" in this context.

If I break my phone (or camera or tv or vcr or dvd player or headphone etc.), I CAN AND WILL bring it to a repair shop. Yes...they may tell me that I broke it myself and thus warranty will not cover it. Fine. But I still have the right to physically walk into a repair center and hand them my phone and ASK if they will repair it. Heck, they might even tell me no because they don't want to work on phones that the customer dropped in water or left in a microwave or opened myself. Fine. Just like some car mechanics don't do oil changes (seriously...because it's not worth their time tying up their business/time with a low-cost service).

As with any product I own, it's mine. Period. I can dismantle it to my heart's content. If I break it, shame on me. And of course if I break it I wouldn't expect a FREE repair. I would expect, however, that a repair shop would STILL FIX IT FOR A FEE.

Moreover, this video mentions that numerous Apple customers go to Apple for the repair and Apple is REPLACING the normal, standard screws that were on the PRODUCT YOU OWN with new, non-standard screws. That's totally wrong. Ethically wrong. The equivalent of bringing your car in for new tires and they weld the lug nuts on (because, again, there is no tool for you to buy to maintain the tires yourself) after giving you new tires.
 
And there is experimental evidence that suggests that there is no advantage. Given the choice between an expensive, proprietary industrial research paper and evidence, I usually go with the latter. Most others do as well.

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

What evidence, the ones you don't have? :rolleyes: If there is a proprietary white paper on this, on the advantages in such and such way of such a design, rest assured you are not going to have it unless you are working for apple? Are you? No. Fail.
 
This reminds me of a set of 2 piece rims I helped a friend restore. The rims used 10 point bolts and nuts. We had to order a socket set from Germany for over a $100.

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I find it hard to believe that people are having a hard time with these screws due to lack of tools... manufacturing an appropriate screwdriver shouldn't exactly be a challenge, I mean really, this is a mass produced basic fabrication part that's not complicated at all...
Actually, high-quality screwdrivers are fairly rare. The metal used is often of inferior quality, so the blades are easily damaged.

Also, the manufacturing tolerances for really small screwdrivers are minuscule, especially for screws that have intricate patterns like Torx or Pentalobe. It's far easier to make a #2 slotted flat tip than a T1 Torx.

The best screwdrivers are made out of harder alloys. There are even titanium and diamond coated tips.

I have a few crummy screwdrivers for when I don't care, then I have my good screwdrivers (Wiha, made in Germany).
 
This prevents a lot of illegal/unauthorized repairs from happening. It also ensures users are going to the retail stores or authorized repair centers for repair.

For each and every iPhone manufactured, i'm sure apple wants to keep a running record of all and any repairs... illegal repairs do not add to a manufactured unit's service history.

apple wants to build a flawless device. when other people are servicing the product w/o providing the manufacturer a diagnosis and repair history, apple loses this vital information. This information is extremely valuable for any kind of manufacturer.

What the hell is an illegal repair? If anyone wants to perform an unauthorized repair and void their warranty it should be up to them.
 
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