I did and the point is, I don't care. Change my screws! If I want in that bad, I'll go buy the freak'n tool or figure out an alternative.
People are freaking out here over nothing.
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I did and the point is, I don't care. Change my screws! If I want in that bad, I'll go buy the freak'n tool or figure out an alternative.
People are freaking out here over nothing.
Here we go with the user's throwing out insults and stereotypes.
Stick to the facts of the article. Go re-read my post as well as so many others who are stating the same FACTS as I am. If you live in some country that has LAWS preventing you from opening your own products then fine...please state the country and the law in your post so we know whether your post is OPINION or FACT.
Illegal?
What do you mean illegal?
It`s now unlawful for me to open a device I own?
What`s up with that?
The screw conundrum is fairly silly, as with everything...the more you try to close it the more people will try to open it up.
There will be drivers for these screws in a matter of weeks/months.
Waste of time that does nothing but make Apple look bad.
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It's the mentality of a free people that would prefer to stay that way. Besides when I do something myself I know it is done right. A common example here is servicing the brakes on ones car. It is not uncommon at all for local mechanics to take short cuts when servicing critical parts, Gail to inspect the whole thing or decide that fishing is more important than doing a quality job.
As to iPhone do you seriously believe that doing something like changing the battery is beyond most people?
In any event your attitude is part of the reason there is such a rip off attitude on your side of the pond. Efforts are afoot over there to make most DIY repairs illegal. If a light switch goes bad in your house do you really believe that requiring replacement by an electrician is rational in every case? The problem in Eirope and the IK specifically is that people are far to quick to bend over for the government. Maybe that helps with constipation but it isn't the way we roll in the USA.
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It's the mentality of a free people that would prefer to stay that way. Besides when I do something myself I know it is done right. A common example here is servicing the brakes on ones car. It is not uncommon at all for local mechanics to take short cuts when servicing critical parts, Gail to inspect the whole thing or decide that fishing is more important than doing a quality job.
As to iPhone do you seriously believe that doing something like changing the battery is beyond most people?
In any event your attitude is part of the reason there is such a rip off attitude on your side of the pond. Efforts are afoot over there to make most DIY repairs illegal. If a light switch goes bad in your house do you really believe that requiring replacement by an electrician is rational in every case? The problem in Eirope and the IK specifically is that people are far to quick to bend over for the government. Maybe that helps with constipation but it isn't the way we roll in the USA.
The Pentalobes seem like a better screw than philips or even torx. I see teh Pentalobes as much less likely to strip out.
the torx, though shouldn't,do look like they could strip out.
Perhaps Apple designed this screw and figured it is a better screw overall and is replacing as they see the models come back.
the torx, though shouldn't,do look like they could strip out.
Perhaps Apple designed this screw and figured it is a better screw overall and is replacing as they see the models come back.
Apple wants to do one thing: make money. That is the purpose of a Coporation in the USA, to make money so that shareholder value is increased.
If Apple wants this "vital information", they can damn well pay for it. I am willing to sell it to them for the low low price of $100 per incident.
he he
I can't believe people are arguing about the morality of screw here. Let's keep in mind what is important.
I bet once she gets some notoriety and all of us geeks pine for her to do a vcast in tights the wedding ring will disappear.
There is a liberation kit for everything.
Maybe some 1-on-1 FaceTime time
Who cares? We all know Apple builds throwaway products.
Then they brag about being green. It's nothing new.
Apple takes great delight in wreaking havoc, large or small. They love to get "in your face" proving they can do whatever they damn well please.
It's Apple, what do you expect. It's just another tactic to lock down & dumb down "for your safety" yeah right!
Just look at the apologists here downplaying this. Apple disciples can justify anything. It's quite hilarious really
Then they brag about being green. It's nothing new.
Apple takes great delight in wreaking havoc, large or small. They love to get "in your face" proving they can do whatever they damn well please.
It's Apple, what do you expect. It's just another tactic to lock down & dumb down "for your safety" yeah right!
Just look at the apologists here downplaying this. Apple disciples can justify anything. It's quite hilarious really
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The MacBook Pro I PAID $1199 is mine. The iPod touch I paid $299 for is mine. The iPhone 4 my brother paid for is HIS. We purchased these products. They are now the property of me and my brother. We OWN them. We can do what we please with them except break laws.
If they still belong to Apple, where is my $299, $1199, and my brother's $199?
Answer that!
I think your family should do an intervention and take you in for deprogramming.
It is *absolutely* my right to take apart my phone once I've paid for it. I can also run over it with my car, blend it, fling it, sell it, etc. I *own* it.
This stinks. Why make it hard for people to open up their devices? I mean I really don't want to do that on anything I own, but just the principal of it irritates me. Once I buy it, I ought to be able to take it apart if I want to.
So, what do you want to do with them that apple isn't letting you do? Get that 9.99 screwdriver from the chick at ifixit and open them up if you want to, what's the big deal?
I have to disagree. The torx have equally shaped outer and inner points, whereas the pentalobe has overly rounded outer "petals" and very sharp inner points. If anything, I would say the pentalobe would be stripped more easily because of those sharp inner points.
Pentalobe may be slightly more forgiving, however, to bits inserted at an angle, thanks to those rounded outer "petals".
Naturally this is all guessing on my part. I'm sure significant research was put into these new heads.
you sure got yourself a good user experience going there haven't you? 7 or 8 times PER DAY? Hey, don't tell me..'Jailbreaking's really cooollllll'
Right. They would spend money to change people's phones when they aint broken.
If it an't broke, don't fix it.!
Well unless you are screwing people over.
No your post is really lame. WTF does the word "appropriate" have to do with Apple obviously and constantly making efforts to keep people from opening their case with standardized tools? What does me having to buy custom equipment to open a case have to do with my competency working with the electronics inside the case? NOTHING. This is simply Apple trying to squeeze every last freaking penny out of their user base. They don't want you changing batteries (they'd prefer you buy a new device altogether). They don't want you upgrading other hardware. They want you to pay for the service at their stores. Many children can do this kind of work themselves these days and Apple knows it. So they try and force you to pay when you'd rather not. There is no excuse for it.
So we should have to buy a whole new set of tools every other year like some cat and mouse game? That's precisely what Apple is counting on to ensure you come to them for the upgrades. It costs money to buy new tools all the time, especially when they have no use what-so-ever on any other products on the planet Earth.
More to the point, what is the purpose in Apple using non-standard screw heads? Was there no available screws that would function properly with these devices? No, it has nothing to do with any functional reason. It simply has to do with them trying to keep you from opening their devices so they can charge you to do upgrades and battery replacements, regardless of whether it is convenient for you or not (there are no Apple stores within 60 miles of my house, for example), let alone the increased cost for something as easy as changing a battery.
I may like many Apple products, but I despise the company's business practices. They're starting to make Microsoft look like a bunch of nice guys.
Let me tell you something. The principal of it, is that devices are sold as is, they are not sold with the provision that they will readily or easily lend themselves to be taken apart. Since when is there a provision for this. Oh damn sonny, has made it so hard for me to take apart my plasma tv, oh damn chrysler has made it so hard for me to take apart the engine...when do you ever hear that? It's only with apple that the insanity hits such high notes sometimes that we are sitting here talking about a damn screw (of course the hot chick has something to do with this too).
In any case this is a point not worth arguing anymore over, there's a screwdriver for it go buy it. It's not as if a new type of screw which hasn't had that many (or any) screwdrivers on the market for it yet is like some big industrial secret code that you can't break...the guys at ifixit (and those at mr relaying these silly news) are taking you for the proverbial ride, this is not news, it's a sales pitch for a screwdriver, mr will take a cut, ifixit takes a cut and everyone is cha ching happy.
Really? So the car, say a Ford, you purchased and paid for in cash is still owned by Ford? Strange country you live in
You are mixing up legal ownership with warranty clauses dude, and you are a fanboy 
It's ifixt. So what do you expect? These people make their living off of tearing down and taking apart consumer electronic goods. So natrually this move by Apple is going to be a huge setback for them. It looks to me that the whole, "Apple is taking heat" crap, is really just from websites like iFixit.
Anyone know if these new screws are a result of the Gizmodo bar scandal. It seemed to me at the time that Apple was more upset about how Gizmodo had taken apart the phone and exposed it's interworkings to everyone on the web.
Whatever the reason, Apple has a right to protect their products. If you want an iDevice, then you agree to the terms that accompny the device, or you don't. And if you don't, then you move on and purchase something else.
Anyone know if these new screws are a result of the Gizmodo bar scandal. It seemed to me at the time that Apple was more upset about how Gizmodo had taken apart the phone and exposed it's interworkings to everyone on the web.
Whatever the reason, Apple has a right to protect their products. If you want an iDevice, then you agree to the terms that accompny the device, or you don't. And if you don't, then you move on and purchase something else.
They have the right to prevent people from copying their products. But not opening their products. Period.
It's not their phone.
What "rules" do you imagine apply in this case? I *own* the phone. I can do whatever I want with it, including destroy it. There are no rules preventing that.
Once you move out of your parents house and are able to afford your own things, you will learn that you generally have the right to do with them as you please. Of course, you will also be responsible if you break something you own. But that's also part of being a grown up.
You can deal with your phone however you want. And I can deal with mine however I want. I don't understand why you want to interfere with my use of my property. Or even why you care.
Do you believe in Santa Claus, too?
You.Hate.Freedom.
This is idiotic. I bought my phone; I'm not renting it. Once people have sold things to you, they are *yours*. I have the right to fix them, or break them, as my heart desires. Seriously, what kind of country do you think we live in?
Umm, the terms and conditions don't prevent opening up the phone.
