If I want, I'll void my warranty. Apple does not tell me what to do with my iPhone; hence, why it's jailbroken AND unlocked.
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Apple Taking Heat for Switching to Custom Screws on iPhone 4 and Portables
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If I want, I'll void my warranty. Apple does not tell me what to do with my iPhone; hence, why it's jailbroken AND unlocked.
Agreed. This seems to be blown out of proportion. Doesn't seem to be a big deal to me.
Every single invention in the world was/is the result of taking a previous product and 'tampering' with it to make a better product.
People who make points such as the ones by Benguitar are usually people with type B personalities - incapable of independent thought, and follow other people without question.
AKA church of Jobs.
People who make points such as the ones by Benguitar are usually people with type B personalities - incapable of independent thought, and follow other people without question.
AKA church of Jobs.
You are right. That 1500 Euro iMac I bought a year ago and was manufactured in factories by underpaid Chinese workers cost Apple 1400 Euro. Poor Apple, I'm wondering how they achieve close to 25% net profit on their quarterly turn-over....... Must be a miracle
They just got some to sell, so they gathered up all their fake outrage and made it seem as if there was a problem they could provide a solution to.
Seriously, iFixIt?
There's thousands of products that require specialized tools. Many phones use 5-point screws, of varying sizes. If I wanted to open one of them, I'd have to go buy a $2 screwdriver too.
jW
What a whiny little... Shrew this chick is. Seriously. Whining and moaning about iPhone screws? She sounds like she was desperate to convince people that this story has significance. I, for one, was not convinced.
Why doesn't Apple just grind the head of the screw down before shipment? That way no one can open them up without seriously damaging the case getting to the insides? This way if you need to get your 
device serviced, they just replace it with a new one
device serviced, they just replace it with a new one 
I don't exactly remember saying that Apple "owns" the products you purchased, But they still have terms and conditions that go with the products.
Really? So the car, say a Ford, you purchased and paid for in cash is still owned by Ford? Strange country you live in
Nope, Again I didn't say that Apple still OWNS the device, They have terms and conditions that people should abide to. Period.
I like structure. I believe in rules. I don't live life doing whatever I want just because I can. I actually have morals, and respect people's property.
And yes, I do not like too much freedom, Too much of anything is a bad thing.
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So the ones of you that are ok with this change, and ok with Apple replacing the screws on existing customers' products without consent, you'd all also be perfectly fine if you took your existing car (which has a standard oil plug that the average owner can take out if he/she chooses) to the dealership for an oil change (say you didn't have time to do it yourself this occasion), and got it back with a special drain plug in place that only the dealership has a wrench for? And have done this without your permission?
Ho Hum, another idrone speaks.
Wait till this screw is used on all Apple products and then be you'll forced to spend 3x as much as other possible options to fix a problem because its only Apple that can open the box!
Yea, it's a little annoying. Not like Apple is the only one doing it, though. Device manufacturers have been doing this for as long as I can remember.
The most recent example, fixing my Nintendo Wii required a tri-wing tip screw driver.
http://www.amazon.com/Tri-wing-Screwdriver-Nintendo-Gamecube-Gameboy/dp/B000S6AG9G
I'm more surprised that the iPhone shipped with Phillips screws than I am the switch to something less common.
The most recent example, fixing my Nintendo Wii required a tri-wing tip screw driver.
http://www.amazon.com/Tri-wing-Screwdriver-Nintendo-Gamecube-Gameboy/dp/B000S6AG9G
I'm more surprised that the iPhone shipped with Phillips screws than I am the switch to something less common.
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I think you hit the nail on the head. It might be lkess suspicious if they weren't selling a solution.
I think you hit the nail on the head. It might be lkess suspicious if they weren't selling a solution.
Dude, I spit out my soda reading this sentence! Like most others here, you are spot on with your examples and facts.
Too many people on this thread have just thrown out terms like "warranty" and "right" without any regard to their actual definition.
-Eric
This just shows idiotic nature of Apple the company
Why would anyone need to use special screws? Are they technically better? Obviously not. Just another way to own the customer. Or perhaps this is how Apple adheres to the "think different" paradigm these days?
Why would anyone need to use special screws? Are they technically better? Obviously not. Just another way to own the customer. Or perhaps this is how Apple adheres to the "think different" paradigm these days?
OK here is one reasonable explanation
Perhaps, as they do frequently, Apple chose to use special screws to squeeze some extra bucks from the customers by selling special screwdrivers for these new screws? Just like selling incompatible adapters for all devices?
Perhaps, as they do frequently, Apple chose to use special screws to squeeze some extra bucks from the customers by selling special screwdrivers for these new screws? Just like selling incompatible adapters for all devices?
I can't believe this is making front page news. This is just a clever marketing scheme for iFixIt. These screws have been on US iPhones for over a month or so now and there are plenty of screwdrivers that fit it.
I had no idea iFixIt was so sensationalist to try and drive sales.
I had no idea iFixIt was so sensationalist to try and drive sales.
So do you have any idea why Apple decided to use unique screws? That's what people are talking about not the iFixit.
Actually, I think the biggest issue is that they are replacing the old screws on existing customers' phones with these new screws during repairs...i.e., modifying equipment that they (Apple) do not own. I have no problem with them using whatever fastener they choose, but that needs to be with new devices only. They don't have the right to change the existing screws in a phone owned by the customer without the customer's permission. It's not "Apple's property", like some in this thread have said.
TO ALL THE WHINERS AND COMPLAINERS:
In which way did Apple RIP YOU OFF? By replacing screws with a different type? Like I said before, if you don't like that, don't buy the iPhone. If you don't like the way manfacturer A/B or C prevents you from opening their product, don't buy the product made by them.
Where is the legal clause that states you as a consumer is free to disassemble, dismantle, hack, or circumvent a product you purchased freely?
It's not even about the screws you are whining about - it's just the fact you see something apple changed and right away snap and say Apple did this to you - boo hoo hoo. Move on with your life and if you are really adamant about opening up the damn device, you will either
1) find the right tool no matter how expensive
2) don't open up the device and enjoy your phone as is
Why don't you complain why apple doesn't make it easy to add more ram or allow you to connect an SD card slot for expanding memory? They changed the regular screws to something awkward - so find a solution and move on.
The last time I checked you bought the phone NOT because it was easy to open up but because it was a closed ecosystem and had tons of apps for you to enjoy...
In which way did Apple RIP YOU OFF? By replacing screws with a different type? Like I said before, if you don't like that, don't buy the iPhone. If you don't like the way manfacturer A/B or C prevents you from opening their product, don't buy the product made by them.
Where is the legal clause that states you as a consumer is free to disassemble, dismantle, hack, or circumvent a product you purchased freely?
It's not even about the screws you are whining about - it's just the fact you see something apple changed and right away snap and say Apple did this to you - boo hoo hoo. Move on with your life and if you are really adamant about opening up the damn device, you will either
1) find the right tool no matter how expensive
2) don't open up the device and enjoy your phone as is
Why don't you complain why apple doesn't make it easy to add more ram or allow you to connect an SD card slot for expanding memory? They changed the regular screws to something awkward - so find a solution and move on.
The last time I checked you bought the phone NOT because it was easy to open up but because it was a closed ecosystem and had tons of apps for you to enjoy...
Likewise, where is the "legal clause" that allows Apple to take a device owned by the customer, and, without that customer's permission, change the screws in it to whatever Apple sees fit?
They need no such clause. Why don't you go and form a class action lawsuit against apple - I will sign the petition just so that you will have that .01% of people who gives a damn.
edit: it's the people who claim they have "legal rights" to do whatever they want to a product they purchased...the litigation for this is still ongoing (sony vs geohot)...we will see..
This is shameful advertising of the worst sort from both ifixit and mac rumors (with the ridiculous title "apple taking heat for"... taking heat from who, one chick on one web site? Boy that's a lot of heat...), I don't know what the cut is for mr, but these "news" have not been reported on any other mainstream mac/apple site that I know of...