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FWIIW, I haven't lived in England since the year of the Common Market - knowing what was coming shortly thereafter.

As the late, great Maggie said - until you run out of other people's money.
You mean a period of great prosperity ? By any measure since 1970's the UK has done fabulously well.

I think you would be in a very small minority if you thought all taxation is bad (ref your tax is theft comment).

Apple and others such as Starbucks, Amazon etc pay way too little tax. Corporate tax rates of 25%-35% as exist in Europe and the US are quite reasonable.
 
Income tax was very much a thing before 1909 - especially for the rich such as yourself.



Why is democracy bad?

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What happens when the police and army refuse to do that (being that they are generally made up of poor people)?

Such taxes were, in the main, levied for specific purposes and essential services - and agreed to by the payers, since they were the state.

Ochlocracy is the tail wagging the dog. Those who cannot manage their own lives should not be allowed to run a country.
 
Greedy corporate businesses should be paying taxes and quit avoiding them. If apple followed the law then no shame on apple. If they did hide some over there, crucify them. America is broke and 17 trillion (yes, trillion) in the hole. Want to end up like greece? The hell with a holiday break for tax cheats. Pay up!

The fact that America is broke and 17 trillion in the hole has nothing to do with tax avoidance, but rather with its own government's faults: inefficiencies, chronical over-spending, endless military budgets, etc.

Most people/companies are FED UP with the way their hard-earned money is misused by gargantuan governments who, instead of targeting towards efficiency, throw money down the loo in humungous govt. agencies, outdated bureaucracy, absurdly underused infrastructures, hordes of bureaucrats who hardly serve any pragmatic purpose, etc.

If governments want to avoid tax avoidance, their first step should be to trim out their own inefficiencies.
 
Such taxes were, in the main, levied for specific purposes and essential services - and agreed to by the payers, since they were the state.

Ochlocracy is the tail wagging the dog. Those who cannot manage their own lives should not be allowed to run a country.

Imperial Russia also thought like that.:p
 
You mean a period of great prosperity ? By any measure since 1970's the UK has done fabulously well.

I think you would be in a very small minority if you thought all taxation is bad (ref your tax is theft comment).

Apple and others such as Starbucks, Amazon etc pay way too little tax. Corporate tax rates of 25%-35% as exist in Europe and the US are quite reasonable.

How much cash does England actually have in the kitty?

Ten percent flat - across the board is reasonable. Opinions.
 
How much cash does England actually have in the kitty?

Ten percent flat - across the board is reasonable. Opinions.
Countries don't run with cash in the kitty. That's not how they work, any of them. There are huge levels of debt even in China.

Ten percent flat is not nearly enough to pay the bills even excluding the welfare state as you would like to.
 
Neither do the rich to inheriting money and status as you did.

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Well quite.

Which handbook did you get that from? The whole idea of building, is to pass it on to one's progeny. (And don't get me started on death taxes!).

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Imperial Russia also thought like that.:p

And look what Ochlocracy brought.

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Let the rate be set by Brussels.:p:p

OK, now that's funny! :)

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Countries don't run with cash in the kitty. That's not how they work, any of them. There are huge levels of debt even in China.

Ten percent flat is not nearly enough to pay the bills even excluding the welfare state as you would like to.

Mr. Micawber come to mind.
 
Which handbook did you get that from? The whole idea of building, is to pass it on to one's progeny. (And don't get me started on death taxes!).

Funny you and I agree on something, Inheritance tax should be the first € 1,000,000 in cash should be tax free, every € 1,000,000 after at 15% tax.

All Property & land would be exempt, this would include farms and houses.
 
Funny you and I agree on something, Inheritance tax should be the first € 1,000,000 in cash should be tax free, every € 1,000,000 after at 15% tax.

All Property & land would be exempt, this would include farms and houses.

Inheritance tax should exactly 0% , since the govt already taxed that money when it was originally generated. WTF is up with taxing the same revenue twice?!
 
If Apple manufacturers the phone in China and sells it outside of the US then why should they pay US tax? I think every person on this forum would do the same.

I do think the new Mac pros built and sold in the US should have to be taxed accordingly.

Except that Apple manufactures nothing in China - they hire other companies to manufacture their stuff in China. Those companies (Foxconn etc.) pay taxes in China. The money Apple makes from having their products manufactured in China doesn't stay in China - it goes straight to the US. And that's why taxes are due in the US.
 
Which handbook did you get that from? The whole idea of building, is to pass it on to one's progeny. (And don't get me started on death taxes!).

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And look what Ochlocracy brought.

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OK, now that's funny! :)




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Mr. Micawber come to mind.

But for the russian peasant it really did matter, because of the hopelessness of the situation, the if I can't have no one will attitude prevailed.:p

The UK is just Boom and Bust.

I mean this is a country that couldn't even stay in the ERM.:p
 
Which handbook did you get that from? The whole idea of building, is to pass it on to one's progeny. (And don't get me started on death taxes!).

According to who?

And look what Ochlocracy brought.

What, unprecedented global prosperity?

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Inheritance tax should exactly 0% , since the govt already taxed that money when it was originally generated. WTF is up with taxing the same revenue twice?!

Same applies to all taxes...
 
Inheritance tax should exactly 0% , since the govt already taxed that money when it was originally generated. WTF is up with taxing the same revenue twice?!

We don't have inheritance tax here in Switzerland (at least not in all states). But the state taxes us for living in our own houses. I'm not kidding - they calculate how much rent we'd have to pay for the home we own and live in and add that full amount to our income. On average, people have their taxable income increased by around 15'000 to 20'000 dollars per year because they own a freaking house and live in it. Of course, property tax etc. is added to that afterwards.

So please don't complain about inheritance tax - that's peanuts compared to Switzerland's mind-boggingly stupid tax laws. That's what you get when you live in a direct democracy where 70% of the population doesn't own their own home - the renting population envies the home-owners and thus seizes every opportunity to screw them because of that.
 
Funny you and I agree on something, Inheritance tax should be the first € 1,000,000 in cash should be tax free, every € 1,000,000 after at 15% tax.

All Property & land would be exempt, this would include farms and houses.

Farms are generally excluded as it is ;).
 
Inheritance tax should exactly 0% , since the govt already taxed that money when it was originally generated. WTF is up with taxing the same revenue twice?!

Although you are technically correct, I think that unearned income/large gifts should be subject to a one-off charge - if reasonable.
 
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