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Apple Targets Samsung With New Lawsuit Over 'Galaxy' Line

Bilbo63 said:
Seriously? When you look at how polished the original iPhone was, I don't believe that even Apple could pull that one off in a matter of months. Look at some of the half-baked tablet devices that were rushed to market in a matter of months.

I don't doubt that competitors could be working on similar things at the same time, but I stand by my position that the devices in question clearly resemble Apple's products and no one else's.

The competition "poo-poo'd" the iPod and were wrong then had to play catch-up. They laughed at the iPhone and had to play catch-up. They mocked and criticized the iPad and are now scrambling to compete in that space as well.

The only common thread is that the competing devices closely resemble Apple's designs, so close in fact that in some cases, you have to really look to determine which is which.
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They may have poo pood the ipod but you ever actually listen to any of the competition? Devices from Sony, Toshiba, and the now dead Rio blew away the ipod in terms of audio quality. And after all the original purpose of the iPod was a music player, so sq matters.
 
infidel69 said:
I love Apples products but too many of their fans think Apple invented everything electronic like the computer, smartphone and tablet. For a fanbase that prides itself on being smarter than the average consumer they sure are ignorant. They really haven't invented anything except for their famous reality distortion field which I'm sure they've patented.
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OMG they have a reality distortion field? *Gasp... I want one..... was there a preorder... damn I missed it.... imaging what I could make the women think.....oh yeah.....! :cool:
 
Yes but the Original iPhone also copied or looked too similar to the LG Prada. And nobody said a word.
 
theelysium said:
I linked my source above in my first response to you. It's your bad that you didn't click on it. FYI Mackido & Wikipedia (Are you to inapt to search on it? If you ask nicely I'll help you...... )

Xerox didn't have a problem, BTW. It was just business. Duh.
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You didn't hyperlink anything in your posts. You only copied and paste, with no original source.

you're digging yourself a deeper hole here buddy. So a company that sues another company, means that they have no issues with said company? You're erasing logic here to try to make your argument.

and btw, i wouldn't consider mackido a valid source as it is a apple-centric website. thats like me pulling a source from a Microsoft fanpage to prove a point.

and no, thats not proper sourcing, merely stating 'wikipedia' is not valid. Dear lord, I hope you don't source your school papers with a footnote of 'wikipedia' otherwise all hope is lost for the younger generation.

Xerox as a company had a HUGE problem with Apple copying Xerox's IP.

In the suit, filed last Thursday, Xerox accused Apple of unlawfully using, in two of its computers, copyrighted Xerox software that controls desktop computers. Xerox also argues that Apple has undermined Xerox's ability to license its own software widely by suing two other companies marketing similar software.
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Even Apple's former CEO, John Sculley, made an admission of Apple copying Xerox's IP.

Apple may face special problems because of admissions made by its chairman, John Sculley, in his 1987 book, ''Odyssey,'' a chronicle of his split with Apple's co-founder, Steven P. Jobs. ''Much of the Macintosh technology wasn't invented in the building,'' he wrote. ''Indeed, the Mac, like the Lisa before it, was largely a conduit for technology developed'' at Xerox's Palo Alto Research Center.
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Former Xerox Employee
''Apple can't have it both ways,'' said John Shoch, a former Xerox computer scientist involved in the original research at the company's Palo Alto Research Center. ''They can't complain that Hewlett-Packard and Microsoft have the look and feel of the Macintosh without acknowledging the Mac has the look and feel of the Star.''
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I can go on and on. What have you done besides make wild assumptions throughout this thread?
 
blackburn said:
Unless apple was some backup plan, samsung could simply stop producing apple chips and *puff* apple in big trouble.

Doesn't seem to wise to bite the hand that feeds.
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Yeah, but one would assume they have contracts that have to be honored. There are few buyers that can drop billions on an order... and Apple is one of them. The relationship between Samsung and Apple is mutually dependent, in that if Samsung stopped selling, they would have to fire thousands, if not tens of thousands, of workers.

This is the type of orders that Apple places with Samsung. A buyer like this cannot be replaced. http://news.cnet.com/8301-31021_3-20031814-260.html

Also, if Samsung did this, it could sour relations with other buyers. No one in business wants to deal with a company that will cut you off if you have a legal dispute with them.
 
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I kind of want to see Samsung having to pay Apple some fee or something because when it comes to support for their mobile phones they are pretty bad.
 
aohus said:
You didn't hyperlink anything in your posts. You only copied and paste, with no original source.

you're digging yourself a deeper hole here buddy. So a company that sues another company, means that they have no issues with said company? You're erasing logic here to try to make your argument.

and btw, i wouldn't consider mackido a valid source as it is a apple-centric website. thats like me pulling a source from a Microsoft fanpage to prove a point.

and no, thats not proper sourcing, merely stating 'wikipedia' is not valid. Dear lord, I hope you don't source your school papers with a footnote of 'wikipedia' otherwise all hope is lost for the younger generation.

Xerox as a company had a HUGE problem with Apple copying Xerox's IP.



Even Apple's former CEO, John Sculley, made an admission of Apple copying Xerox's IP.



Former Xerox Employee


I can go on and on. What have you done besides make wild assumptions throughout this thread?
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My original post had a hyper link. You are blind. Taking a former disgruntle employee's word is like taking info from an anti-fanboy. You know that. I am not digging any hole. There is nothing to dig. I am correct and you are grasping at straws. Mackido also shows flaws about Apple, therefor it's not that bias.

You just want to be contrary and be all anti Apple. Well good for you. Yes, I would put a footer of Wikipedia, you're so trying to find something cool to slam me with. At least you are putting forth some effort.
 
QuarterSwede said:
Apple has to try to protect their IP or they risk losing it. What I wonder is why it took them so long to start lawsuits over this.
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Well first Apple's and Samsung's lawyers have to do the prenuptial mating dance before suits can be filed. This is done to show that Apple tried to resolve things with Samsung before resorting to taking it to court. This also guarantees an additional percentage of legal costs paid to both sets of lawyers.

If Apple were to sue anyone than Samsung makes the most sense as they have insider knowledge of Apple's performance goals, budgets and designs.

While obviously Samsung had signed NDAs it will be very difficult to prove that their Galaxy engineers created the Samsung Galaxy in a sterile environment, especially since the Galaxy ended up looking like the iPad in many ways.

It's easy today to say that Apple's design is the "obvious" way for a tablet to look, you just need to go back to the designs proposed at CES in January 2010 to see what seemed obvious before the world got to see the iPad.

What Samsung is doing here is taking advantage of all the design costs that preceded the current state of the components Samsung is providing to Apple and launching their Galaxy without incurring those costs to develop unique components for their own end products.
 
blackburn said:
Unless apple was some backup plan, samsung could simply stop producing apple chips and *puff* apple in big trouble.

Doesn't seem to wise to bite the hand that feeds.
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Samsung would be filing for bankruptcy long before Apple.


Not to mention the massive breach of contract lawsuit...

Believe it or, not, at the top of a conglomerate like Samsung, someone is actually in charge. There is no way they would kill their biggest customer to save a division that generates little or no profit. (Will actually likely lose money given how their tablet was received).
 
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SandynJosh said:
Well first Apple's and Samsung's lawyers have to do the prenuptial mating dance before suits can be filed. This is done to show that Apple tried to resolve things with Samsung before resorting to taking it to court. This also guarantees an additional percentage of legal costs paid to both sets of lawyers.

If Apple were to sue anyone than Samsung makes the most sense as they have insider knowledge of Apple's performance goals, budgets and designs.

While obviously Samsung had signed NDAs it will be very difficult to prove that their Galaxy engineers created the Samsung Galaxy in a sterile environment, especially since the Galaxy ended up looking like the iPad in many ways.

It's easy today to say that Apple's design is the "obvious" way for a tablet to look, you just need to go back to the designs proposed at CES in January 2010 to see what seemed obvious before the world got to see the iPad.

What Samsung is doing here is taking advantage of all the design costs that preceded the current state of the components Samsung is providing to Apple and launching their Galaxy without incurring those costs to develop unique components for their own end products.
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Hellow! Dead on!
 
I thought it was silly until I saw the 3GS next to the Galaxy S i9000. That's WAY too close. I think Samsung is OK with the tablet, but that phone model is almost a Chinese knockoff.
 
iliketyla said:
The LG KE850, also known as the LG Prada,[1] is a touchscreen mobile phone made by LG Electronics. It was first announced on December 12, 2006. -
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dba7dba said:
WRONG.

From wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LG_Prada_(KE850)


LG Electronics has claimed the iPhone's design was copied from the LG Prada. Woo-Young Kwak, head of LG Mobile Handset R&D Center, said at a press conference, “We consider that Apple copied the Prada phone after the design was unveiled when it was presented in the iF Design Award and won the prize in September 2006.”[9][10]
LG later claimed that Apple stole both the ideas and concept of the Prada phone. A lawsuit by LG had been rumored prior to this announcement; [9] however, LG has remained silent on whether or not they will file a lawsuit.
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Ahh the beauty of Wikipedia, two different answers to the same question.

Savor said:
LOL

Suing your own partner and supplier. What next Apple, are going to sue Sony or Omnivision? Sue Foxcomm because iDevices are made in China.

All Apple has is their interface. Without the hardware components, there would be no iPhone or iPad. It would be like Nintendo suing Sharp even though the 3DS screen is supplied by them.

I hope Apple learns to manufacture everything themselves. Google should stop supporting them. Same with Samsung. I want Apple to do it all alone. I want every developer and hardware to turn their back on Apple. Expect more delays with the iPhone 5.

Incredibly petty. Why ruin relationships with your partners when you are still on the gravy train?
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If Sharp used the information they gained making those displays and made a portable gaming console that looked exactly like the Nintendo DS, I assure you Nintendo would sue them in a minute.

If you don't think Apple can find another display maker or Fab for the A5, you are crazy.

Suing your customers like the record labels is crazy. Suing your suppliers is entirely different..
 
wovel said:
Samsung would be filing for bankruptcy long before Apple would.


Not to mention the massive breach of contract lawsuit...

Believe it or, not, at the top of a conglomerate like Samsung, someone is actually in charge. There is no way they would kill their biggest customer to save a division that generates little or no profit. (Will actually likely lose money given how their tablet was received).
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I have yet to see anyone with an galaxy tab or an galaxy phone:D But even the dock connector samsung copied. At least here the samsung tab is more expensive than the ipad..
 
aohus said:
How many effing times does this have to be repeated.

APPLE was NOT the first to launch a capacitive screen for a smartphone. it was the LG PRADA.

goodness...
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Wikipedia is wrong on that.
The LG Prada (which really looks nothing like an iPhone, seriously) is resistive. You can ask any LG Prada phone user. (Oh, right, they're almost all gone now...)

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Just in case you don't believe me or actual people who use the LG Prada phone... here's linking proof: http://c2499022.cdn.cloudfiles.rack...ent/uploads/2007/04/lg-prada-sb310-lb3100.jpg
 
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