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Apple Targets Windows 7 With Three New 'Get a Mac' Ads
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And what was Microsoft doing with the laptop hunter's crap?
Bringing your attention to the value provided by Windows laptops?
Those ads had a few seconds of "Apple bashing" (if you want to call it that), but most of the ad was about the advantages of the Windows laptop.
Stuck at #600?
Why won't the Forum go past this post - #600? Clicking on page 25 just repeats page 24. Clicking on the forward arrow does not go forward, either. Now it does - with this post. So why was page 25 listed with no posts after #600?
hiimamac in Boston - Can you understand what you have written? Maybe edit it for complete sentences and ideas by using punctuation.
Everyone else: spellcheckers won't catch the incorrect use of 'then' when the word should have been 'than' OR/AND 'they're' instead of 'their' or 'there' OR/AND 'lose' instead of 'loose.'
Why won't the Forum go past this post - #600? Clicking on page 25 just repeats page 24. Clicking on the forward arrow does not go forward, either. Now it does - with this post. So why was page 25 listed with no posts after #600?
hiimamac in Boston - Can you understand what you have written? Maybe edit it for complete sentences and ideas by using punctuation.
Everyone else: spellcheckers won't catch the incorrect use of 'then' when the word should have been 'than' OR/AND 'they're' instead of 'their' or 'there' OR/AND 'lose' instead of 'loose.'
Hahaha....so true.
And what was Microsoft doing with the laptop hunter's crap?
Lower prices aren't a selling point? Silly fanboy, *facepalm*
i haven't had a single problem with registry since windows 95. and no you don't need anti-virus unless you're an internet dumbie. i haven't used any anti-virus/malware/etc software on my xp/vista and now win7 machine in years upon years.
lol what? what 'many pieces of xp software' don't run on win 7??? who the hell would want to run XP under VM in win 7??? you make absolutely 0 sense and its basically people like you that make mac people look like delusional, clueless followers.
Yep, market leader don't have to bash the wannabes. Look at old Nintendo, Coke, Budweiser... they have/had nothing to worry about from Sega, Pepsi, and Miller
I really do love Apple products, I have bought 3 notebooks, 4 iPhones, and countless peripherals and iPods. However, I still keep a home HTPC that runs Windows 7 (just got the OS and it is just great). Although I prefer to use Apple for a lot of things I do, these commercials really make me dislike the company itself.
I really do love Apple products, I have bought 3 notebooks, 4 iPhones, and countless peripherals and iPods. However, I still keep a home HTPC that runs Windows 7 (just got the OS and it is just great). Although I prefer to use Apple for a lot of things I do, these commercials really make me dislike the company itself.
Funny. I used win beta in an old p4 that I built my hackntosh on and it was very fast, had drivers for devices that took vista more then a year to work with and don't recall any crashes, ecer.
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Kind of reminds me. Doesn't OS X crash whenever you try to mount a damaged .dmg file or was that fixed? I know there was something involving .dmg's that would cause OS X to have a kernel panic every time.
As a mac user who has both msc and pc and nowa stable vista since sp2 and beta tested win for months, I think theses ads are going to backfire.
1All IT will update from XP
2 Win 7 had drivers out if the box that took vista more then a year to have
3 IT updates will trickle to consumers.
4 When users find out Win 7 IS STABLE and a better experience l, especially coming from XP, they will distrust Apple.
5 So far, all the reviews are very positive, it's #1 on Amazon, and this will further isolate users as they start to mistrust Apple, or the tech savvy realize that except for the mac pro, the machines are limiting, is goig to leas to fuel on the fire.
6 I think again, apple missed the boat with pro sumers. Gametes make up more sales then video and music combined.
Audio user make up a lage percentage over pros, 10,000 to 1 and Avid/Digi saw this and bought maudio as they knew computers were getting faster. On the iMac, you are limited on what you can update.
Then of course semi pro vide users, they depend on fast portable devices with FireWire and express slots for esata cards and audio depend on express card for audio FX and Apple doesn't offer anything in a range that a PC buyer could get and my belief is the lack of midrange headless mac is due to fear of mac pro sales when the reality is, they would more then make up that money with gamers, prosumers and even pro users adding these machines that sadly don't appear yet instead of intel PC rendering farms as the bang for buck ratio is huge.
A mac pro should be a workstation not a machine made out of server parts in order to keep margins high.
Peace.
1All IT will update from XP
2 Win 7 had drivers out if the box that took vista more then a year to have
3 IT updates will trickle to consumers.
4 When users find out Win 7 IS STABLE and a better experience l, especially coming from XP, they will distrust Apple.
5 So far, all the reviews are very positive, it's #1 on Amazon, and this will further isolate users as they start to mistrust Apple, or the tech savvy realize that except for the mac pro, the machines are limiting, is goig to leas to fuel on the fire.
6 I think again, apple missed the boat with pro sumers. Gametes make up more sales then video and music combined.
Audio user make up a lage percentage over pros, 10,000 to 1 and Avid/Digi saw this and bought maudio as they knew computers were getting faster. On the iMac, you are limited on what you can update.
Then of course semi pro vide users, they depend on fast portable devices with FireWire and express slots for esata cards and audio depend on express card for audio FX and Apple doesn't offer anything in a range that a PC buyer could get and my belief is the lack of midrange headless mac is due to fear of mac pro sales when the reality is, they would more then make up that money with gamers, prosumers and even pro users adding these machines that sadly don't appear yet instead of intel PC rendering farms as the bang for buck ratio is huge.
A mac pro should be a workstation not a machine made out of server parts in order to keep margins high.
Peace.
Agreed. I hope they continue the ads. I would like to see at least a few ads talking about positive reasons why Macs and OSX are so good and not just because PCs and Windows suck.
Now if I were in charge of Apple marketing, this would be my ad campaign.
Drum roll please.......
Two guys named Bob. Coincidence ? We think not.
Stay away from Bob and his computer. Get a Mac.
my apologies. I have click turned off in iPhone as it causes lag when typing in forums.
This means you can sometimes think you hit a letter but did not, when I type from the mac, it's easier to understand.Perhaps I will just read with the iPhone and reply with the mac.
Again, my apologies. Peace.
I'm about 99% certain that the i7 in the iMac is a Lynnfield, desktop-class processor. Apple clearly labels it as the "i7 860 2.8 Ghz" quad-core, and there is no i7 "860" in the current list of Clarksfield (mobile i7) processors.
There was also much made over the fact that the iMac was finally going to be using desktop processors (vs. mobile processors), so yeah, pretty much everything points to the i5 750 and i7 860 they're using being based on Lynnfield
The i7 9** series can be considered workstation-class too, given what most workstations are used for.
Sure, the Xeon supports ECC, but it's really more designed for server use. Hence why it uses less power (as server racks are much smaller than desktop chassis and thus you tend to need reduced power consumption to have as many Xeons in a small space as possible).
How is Intel "stingy" on the Virtualization side? Intel VT-x is included in both their mid-range, high-end and server-class products. I've never seen it shown where Xeons had any "extra virtualization" capabilities over the i7 9** series, or even the Lynnfield-based systems. Yes, Intel does sometimes exclude it from their low-price offerings, but usually those products are in market segments where virtualization likely won't be used (think Netbooks).
That 6-core Xeon you linked, isn't a Nehalem-based chip, either. The first 6-core Nehalem-based chips aren't coming out until early 2010.
And just to point out, the Clarksfield i7 mobile processors have reduced cache and run at lower speeds, so yes, the desktop series will still outperform them.
I don't have a problem with Apple offering a high-priced Mac Pro that uses Xeons, ECC and such.
I do have a problem with the fact that their entry-model Mac Pro must also use these components, and that they won't offer a Mac Pro in the mid-to-upper 1000s range.
It seems like you often see many of the recent Mac converts (those within the last few years) saying "Well, why should they offer a Mac Pro for $1500 or $1800 or whatever, that's what the iMac is for!"
Yeah, well, Apple used to regularly keep Power Macs in those ranges, and I knew quite a few people who loved getting those Power Macs, and then over time shelving out more money towards Apple to upgrade them (such as GPUs, etc.). Now, some of them usually end up getting a decently-spec'd iMac, but then having to replace it after a couple of years.
Apple's really dropping the ball when it comes to an upgradeable system in the $1800-$2000 price range.
I don't think so. The same people that were using a Mac before will continue to do so, and the same people who weren't will continue not to. The same people on the fence will hopefully decide by making an intelligent decision based upon trying both out, not some silly commercial.
I'm sure no one ever bought a Pontiac because they insured "driving excitement". Well, one would hope not, anyway. I could be wrong.
Yup, most will, if not at first then eventually. We successfully avoided Vista and will be rolling out our first Thinkpads with 7 in a couple weeks.
That would make sense since most of the drivers for Vista work for 7. For awhile nVidia was detecting 7 Beta as Server 2008.
Also generally the case.
Doubtful. Fanboys on each side will continue to hate each other, since they have since the dawn of time. Or the early 80's, anyway.
Doubtful.
Workstations generally use many parts similar or identical to servers. This is not unique to Apple.
But I do think they should release a single socket modern version of the $1299 MDD PowerMac. You won't get any argument from me on that.
Gulftown is Westmere based.
I think my Core i5 750 is enough power to be considered a workstation.
Gulftown is Westmere based.
I think my Core i5 750 is enough power to be considered a workstation.
Considering I have two workstations from HP with Core 2's, I'd say so. One's a C2Quad, the other a C2D 3.06Ghz.
Apple could easily make a $1299 Mac Pro with an i5 or i7 and still uphold the righteous image.
Pfft... you're rightGulftown is Westmere based.
I think my Core i5 750 is enough power to be considered a workstation.
I just think of it as Gulftown all the time cause that seems to be how everyone in the hardware media reports it, lol.I'm excited for it. Not excited for the prices though
Oh definitely. They could simply "shrink" the style of the current Mac Pro tower (obviously they'd have to rearrange the interior though), but it'd be really easy to do.Considering I have two workstations from HP with Core 2's, I'd say so. One's a C2Quad, the other a C2D 3.06Ghz.
Apple could easily make a $1299 Mac Pro with an i5 or i7 and still uphold the righteous image.
A lot of people in the enthusiast community think that what "ATX" is now, microATX will be (in terms of being the general standard used for desktop systems). Apple could easily do a mATX-style Mac Pro, in a mid-sized or small tower size, that would still allow expandability but at a much more reasonable price.
Show me a non-custom 4 Socket E-ATX board then. I have no intention of paying IBM ridiculous prices to get one, as I'm currently forced to do If i want a Xeon System. I've looked at Tyan/Foxconn/ASUS/Gigabyte. (admittedly not very hard)
I don't even think that's necessary, nor do I think Apple would do that. Too much money to have a second case design when a different motherboard would fit just fine, even if it's just a single socket i7.
That is, of course, unless Apple would want to differentiate the cheaper "Mac Pro Jr." as being weaker and smaller physically.
Best thing is that in the UK, Microsoft cannot claim that Apple is doing any false advertising...