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LOL not exactly, i would rather have my computer perform decently rather than have a shiny slow piece of garbage.

the imac still uses notebook class core2duos, do you have any idea of how slow that is compared to a desktop Core i7 for CHEAPER? now matter how shiny it looks i cant play Call of duty 4 worth a damn on a 9400. that and i cant trans code any videos in a respectable amount of time.

BTW my gaming rig now cost over $2700 since i added a 47" 1080p 120hz display and 7.2 surround with polk audio speakers/velodyne subs

im no stranger to spending a huge amount of cash, but the difference between me and you is i actually have something to show for the money i spend with equivalent performance

dont believe me?

partial unboxing of the speakers for testing (this pic is kinda old and dont show the subs or the TV mounted to the wall) gaming rig is the Antec 900 case which is now in its own office in my new basement that i built specifically for gaming

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You can't experience any surround with such setup.

Surround doesn't mean just have many speakers.

That's such a real waste of money, sorry, in contrast to what you're trying to prove here :( .

(Can't believe that some guys even drool on your picture :) )
 
Show me a non-custom 4 Socket E-ATX board then. I have no intention of paying IBM ridiculous prices to get one, as I'm currently forced to do If i want a Xeon System. I've looked at Tyan/Foxconn/ASUS/Gigabyte. (admittedly not very hard)

http://supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon7000/

Why do you need a 24-core system? Most buyers of those are corporate, and they will pay for reliability and support. There's not much of a DIY market for Xeon MP parts....
 
When was the last time ?

2 weeks ago when their Windows Mobile lost data on about 2 million phones.

http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/10/1...-servers-crashed-and-they-dont-have-a-backup/

You forgot to mention what percentage of users could restore their data. Apple had for about two years a backup solution that is so simple that anyone losing data is negligent. Those Sidekick users, on the other hand, did actually not have any way to perform backups at all. For comparison, iTunes makes a backup of your iPhone every time you sync.
 
Just a failure to make a backup before doing a botched storage update.

It shows endemic failings of management and decision making within Microsoft, but it isn't directly related to Windows. It could also just be failings within a portion that Microsoft bought in (Danger), but I don't know if Microsoft didn't inject their own personnel into the company when they took over.

The hardware was apparently fine - that's Sun hardware (Solaris) with Oracle database, provided by Hitachi (layers and layers of contracts). Of course Microsoft came out blaming them publicly initially, so I don't their bills to be low. Disaster recovery isn't cheap, and because it was self-inflicted it might not be covered by any support contracts.

From what I heard it wasn't a failure to make a backup. It was worse. A backup was started, and after it was running for two days and announcing that the backup would take another four days (not unreasonable since it was an awful lot of data), it was ordered by Roz Ho, former head of the Microsoft Macintosh business unit:eek: to stop the backup and proceed without one. Worse yet, there had been a backup that was a few months old (not good, but better than nothing), which was destroyed by starting the new backup.
 
Pfft... you're right :p I just think of it as Gulftown all the time cause that seems to be how everyone in the hardware media reports it, lol.

I'm excited for it. Not excited for the prices though :p
Gulftown is going to be very, very expensive.

I'm more interested in Thuban from AMD and a possible 32nm die shrink of Phenom II.

I have my Core i7 750 on a Gigabyte P55M-UD2 in a P180 mini. I think of it as a mini Mac Pro. :cool:
 
I don't have any of this "pain and suffering" they mention in my Vista PC! In fact, the only real problem I've had in the last 2 years or so is that my disk wouldn't defragment properly, but it was sorted after a chkdsk and sfc /scannow.

You may not realise that, but 90 percent of computer users would take a statement like this as a reason to switch to a Macintosh.
 
What many persons here is saying, or at least I am, is that why the inherent need of Apple to highlight anything Windows at all?

Ninety percent of Apple's potential customers are in the unlucky situation of using Windows. Is that a reason?
 
You can't experience any surround with such setup.

Surround doesn't mean just have many speakers.

That's such a real waste of money, sorry, in contrast to what you're trying to prove here :( .

(Can't believe that some guys even drool on your picture :) )

Not too organized, I agree. But he did say it was a partial unboxing :]
 
Get back to me when a Mac can properly communicate with Exchange servers on a corp. network without the aid of such programs as ExtremeZIP or AdmitMac (the worse program ever!) You Apple fanboys need to realize that the business world (where the money is) will always be dominated by Windows because "Apples" innovation does absolutely nothing in the business world.

My experience is quite the opposite. Mail shows all my emails, Address Book contains everyone in the company and lets me find what I'm looking for twice as fast as Outlook, all meetings are in iCal. I haven't heard that the company did any upgrades for that other than Leopard to Snow Leopard.
 
And 85% of U.S. Mac owners also own a PC. ;)

Well, I own a PC. As far as I know it is in my daughter's loft. Didn't really expect to get a back when she borrowed it :p And I have a PC at work. It's under my desk, hasn't been turned on for six months or so. Nobody else seems to want it.
 
Back to Apple going after Seven

I find the "I'm a Mac / I'm a PC" commercials to be hilarious!

None of the three go after Seven itself. Where do they say Seven is crud? They don't. Not yet anyway. (Just wait until something bad happens to 7)
They merely point out that trusting Microsoft might not be the smartest thing one could do in a silly, humorous kind of way while pointing out that Mac is #1 in customer satisfaction..

What did you want Apple to do? Have a commercial that DOESN"T imply that Mac is better than Windows?

They don't even stoop to the level of the "I'm a PC" commercials which ARE cheap shots at Apple products in a humorless price-shopping tight-fisted dry-as-a-bone kind of way with people quoting badly scripted technical specifications that they probably wouldn't know from green cheese. Nowhere do these nice, average "I'm a PC" people point out Apple's strong points like included software, ease of use and Genius support, so why should Apple go easy on MS?

Apple and MS SHOULD be out there trying to win and part of that means saying that you're better than them and attacking your competition's weak points.

Apple attacks their competition with very funny commercials as opposed to MS's dry, humorless "Macs are too expensive" lame excuses for commercials.

I'd like to see MS make some enjoyable commercial too.
With their resources they've just gotta be able to come up with something better than: "Buy us because we're cheaper" or "Vista isn't Bad!"

Maybe they could have something like these guys where PC is smart and Mac is kind of a loser:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy4z9PCQFdE



I like the one where PC bleeps out the word "V(Bleep!)sta" best,
Keri
 
What did you want Apple to do?

Perhaps a commercial that has the headline

Apple (the consumer gadget company) still makes PCs! And they're good because....

The Hodgman/Long series has far, far outlived its useful life. Move on, Apple. They're counter-productive now.
 
You don't know how marketing works.

Well I do and had two director position's if which one was Marketing and Promotions, reporting directly to the president. Oversaw the national and international sales and marketing teams.

I can tell you this, already Windows 7 is getting rave reviews. If the overall market embraces win 7, which many indicators say it will, Apple could really look like the bad guy in a hurrry. Furthermore, if it ever got out that all retail Apple stores have virus protection on their back of house computers, this would really make Apple look really, really bad.

My .@2 cents though us the consumer wins. The msft commercias forced apple to quad up the iMac and reduce prices. All that's left is a semi pro quad or octo mid range as statistically speaking, it wil not hurt pro sale at all, just the opposite, enlarge profits.
 

I have a practice manager that believes in future proofing for like... 10 years at least. I might just get the AMD system though, I can pack a bit more ram onto that than the Xeon systems. Plus I dont need Uberduber HyperThreading. Nobody really does, they just think they do.

I suggested a Linux Blade, trust me I tried. To him its just more parts to fail. :rolleyes: So its gonna be an Opteron 24-Core system with external raid, and whatever money is left for an UPS and as much ram as possible!

Most buyers of those are corporate, and they will pay for reliability and support. There's not much of a DIY market for Xeon MP parts....

I wonder why that could be? :cool:
 
Sir I would buy you a beer if I could.

Oh well, a virtual beer will have to do! :D

I'd be happy with a smoothie. :3

For me. Run Logic Audio.

Well, I mean like on an OS level. It'd be possible to port that over menu for menu and function for function, it's just that no one has done it and probably never will. For example, photoshop is available for both os x and windows with the same features. In windows it just happens to be 64 bit now and have gpu acceleration, but that's partially because of adobe not changing the programming language involved. Carbon to cocoa, no?
 
Get back to me when a Mac can properly communicate with Exchange servers on a corp. network without the aid of such programs as ExtremeZIP or AdmitMac (the worse program ever!) You Apple fanboys need to realize that the business world (where the money is) will always be dominated by Windows because "Apples" innovation does absolutely nothing in the business world.

Entourage works just fine connected to Exchange, though I still prefer Outlook, which is coming to Mac next version.

As for accessing network resources: www.likewisesoftware.com. Works great for Mac, Linux, Unix, BSD.

I've had no trouble using Macs in a Windows centric corporate environment.
 
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