Apple Teams Up With Oprah Winfrey to Create New TV Shows

[zoozx]

Apple

REALLY? Oprah?

Think Different!

Angry face

 

[niun]

Just buy Netflix...

And then kiss goodbye to anything that doesn't fit the family friendly Apple mould.
I'm joking of course but considering what Apple is doing to it's OWN hardware / software I dread to think what they'd do to Netflix.
I enjoy Netflix .I wish to continue enjoying it whilst Apple flings turds at a wall to see what sticks.
At this point I'm more shocked they've not greenlit an emoji TV series based off the movie .

 

[Abazigal]

That is incredible entitlement. So just because you love Apple, it should buy out any and every competitor and build one giant monopoly everywhere possible?

That's disgusting, you should be ashamed of yourself for promoting this mindset.

I see nothing wrong with companies acquiring other companies if it helps them.

That said, Apple gains little from acquiring Netflix, and most certainly doesn't need to be another Netflix clone to succeed.

 

[ipedro]

Apple will have to create it streaming service app for Roku, Amazon and Google boxes as well as manufacturers smart tv hubs.

Why would they do that? The TV service would be the way to propel AppleTV ahead of all of those. I can see them offering an Android smartphone app for those with mixed — an AppleTV at home and an Android phone in their pocket.

 

[CPTmom2wp]

Girls and women between 13 and 35 are the biggest consumers. It doesn't hurt that a lot of content meant for women in that age range also appeals to a large segment of men. The opposite isn't as impactful.

I know a lot of men and women in the 25-35 demographic. Women in this age range like, (I'm generalizing) about relationships, dating, marriage, raising children; Lifetime Movie audiences. Men generally like action movies. There have been many, many "discussions" in this house about what we should watch as a family/group on the weekends after dinner. It's always a challenge to find a movie that will appeal to both. Personally, I like the action movies, so usually end up on the men's ballot
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I remember when a friend of mine almost got divorced because of her show. He would get home after work and his wife would tell him all the things he was doing wrong because he heard it on "Oprah." This was in the early years of her show when it had more of a near-Jerry Springer type format. Years later, she softened up the format and started attracting stars.
She's not a bad person, but she sure started as one. Not interested in her programing.

Her programming is terrible. No one watches her TV channel, Oxygen,Own and her tabloid talk show only appeals to a narrow demographic of women, typically ones with issues they need to resolve with a real therapist rather than the "psychic vibrations" she was pushing for a time. Her movies have not been good either, with the latest, "A Wrinkle in Time" a complete disaster. If Apple wants "original content", I hope it's not movies or tabloid tv, or they backed the wrong person.
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Also, Steve Jobs is the one who made them go down the entertainment path with iTunes

iTunes has offerings that appeals to pretty much everyone, since their music, TV series, and podcasts have extensive offerings that anyone can enjoy. Selecting specific content to finance can lead to big financial losses.
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Everything they do takes manager oversight, product design, and even the CEO's focus. Steve Jobs was nuts (for the time) about having a simple product line. Similarly, it gets confusing on the consumer side, which is probably why one company often splits things into brands that seem unrelated.
Not that I'm against the TV stuff. It's probably what they have to do. But I think they should make a separate brand for it.

Agreed. It degrades the Apple brand.

 

[Karma*Police]

Yeah, I guess that means companies that have poor quality products/services like Comcast, Mcdonald's, United Airlines, and Walmart with be out of business soon.

It still doesn't explain why a company's stock price is a reason someone should buy their product.

You should re-read my post. I never said someone should buy a product because of their product. Only that there’s a strong correlation between how well/poorly the company is doing in the marketplace and the stock price.

That said, I just got Comcast and it’s fantastic... so much better than Fios. I still enjoy McD fries, breakfast and coffee once in awhile. Walmart is my go to for everyday items cos they’re generally cheaper than Amazon. In fact, you can find an article about a guy in his 20’s making millions buying stuff on Walmart and selling it to Amazon users. airlines... so much wrong with the entire industry... they’re all the same garbage to me so I fly whatever’s most convenient/best price.

My point being, just because you may not like a company doesn’t necessarily mean they’re not doing a good job (or a good enough job) of serving the needs of tens of millions of other people.

 

[Defthand]

I want them to make GOOD Macs

I’d settle for a single model. If desktops aren’t needed in homes, and enterprise can’t afford them for administrative tasks, Apple needs to consider a singular machine for the creative professionals who supported the brand and inspired much of its stylings. It needs to be modular, customizable, upgradeable, and serviceable. Not another iMac.

 

[KanosWRX]

Just buy Netflix...

You do realize how much Netflix is worth right? Right now almost 180B, even Apple doesn't have that much money.

 

[femike]

Oprah, OMG! what rubbish!
I saw a previous comment saying Apple has now jumped the shark. Very true.
Tim Cook is not responsible enough to run Apple. His time is up, this decision proves it.

 

[bobenhaus]

Poor Apple with this political agenda's and nothing to do with products. it must be great to work for a CEO that is an activist for all that needs to be equal but he is an elitist just like the rest that has millions of dollars but has a guilty conscience about it.

 

[Juicy Box]

Only that there’s a strong correlation between how well/poorly the company is doing in the marketplace and the stock price.

ou have it backwards. Apple’s stock price is proof that people are still buying their products, despite all the criticism being hurled at them here and elsewhere.

This is going a little off track.

I never claimed that Apple as a company was doing poorly, or that people were not buying their product, or that people did not love their product, or that Apple financial success was not due to people buying their products.

Lets take this back to the original quote, in which my response was quoted:

Cook is doing a fantastic job. Absolutely phenomenal. Anyone who disagrees has personal vendettas because the product they want updated hasn’t been.

They also usually don’t understand business or executing a strategy at all.

Isn't this expected? Isn't the product what people care about the most when they make a purchase? If someone doesn't like the direction of the product, then it could be blamed on the leadership of the company that makes the product, regardless of the financial success that that company has had.

I don't think people buy a computer or cellphone because of the financial performance of the CEO, the company, or the business strategy. They buy it because of the product, or maybe the perception of how the product is due to marketing. But, it still comes down to the product.

I am saying that from a consumer point of view, knowing Apple made a crazy amount of revenue does not matter on whether to buy or not. I do not check Apple's financials when I buy their products, I never have, I doubt most people would. I think that Apple provided a better product when their revenue was a fraction of what it is now.

 

[Baymowe335]

I think this is correct from the view of an investor of Apple.

But from a consumer point of view, isn't this expected?

Why does record revenue and billions in profit matter from a the perspective of someone that uses Apple products? I think it is the products that is what is important to a consumer, not the business/investing side of things.

I have used Apple products for a very long time, and I think Apple make a much better product back when their revenue was a fraction of what it is now, especially on the software side of things.

Again, I think that someone using an Apple product just wants it to be a high quality product.

They don't care about Apple's business strategy, unless that involves purposely slowing devices with software updates.

This is going a little off track.

I never claimed that Apple as a company was doing poorly, or that people were not buying their product, or that people did not love their product, or that Apple financial success was not due to people buying their products.

Lets take this back to the original quote, in which my response was quoted:
Isn't this expected? Isn't the product what people care about the most when they make a purchase? If someone doesn't like the direction of the product, then it could be blamed on the leadership of the company that makes the product, regardless of the financial success that that company has had.

I don't think people buy a computer or cellphone because of the financial performance of the CEO, the company, or the business strategy. They buy it because of the product, or maybe the perception of how the product is due to marketing. But, it still comes down to the product.

I am saying that from a consumer point of view, knowing Apple made a crazy amount of revenue does not matter on whether to buy or not. I do not check Apple's financials when I buy their products, I never have, I doubt most people would. I think that Apple provided a better product when their revenue was a fraction of what it is now.

The point is, the majority of people are happy with Apple or Apple would be updating the Mac Mini and other products the vocal minority keep complaining about. It’s simply not as big of a deal as they think.

 

[Juicy Box]

The point is, the majority of people are happy with Apple or Apple would be updating the Mac Mini and other products the vocal minority keep complaining about. It’s simply not as big of a deal as they think.

A valid argument.

This makes more sense than the other post.

 

[BigDO]

Pathetic. Apple is abandoning their core products and really losing the essence of what it is.

 

[borntrouble]

They don't need to.

What does Apple need from Netflix? Netflix's value is in their content. Without it, their members stop subscribing. Apple has been making content deals that rival Netflix. Apple doesn't need Netflix's distribution channels or technologies; Netflix's distribution channel is Apple and with regards to the technology, Apple has been doing this with iTunes for far longer than Netflix has even existed.

It'll be fantastic to have this kind of competition. Netflix, Apple and Disney will push each other and the audience will win with better content. Notably, if Netflix doesn't get in on the TV app, then Apple wins because Apple's content will be there, front and centre while Netflix's will be boxed within an app by their choice.

I like your analysis, but you underestimate Amazon, by far.

 

[Arran]

The point is, the majority of people are happy with Apple or Apple would be updating the Mac Mini and other products the vocal minority keep complaining about. It’s simply not as big of a deal as they think.

You're assuming all Mac users are happy. You're also assuming that the "right and good" thing always happens. It doesn't.

If you're a long-time mac user, you can't just walk away and give up your investment in Mac hardware, software, and workflows. It would be a painful and costly transition. Stuff you need in your everyday work would break and you'd have to spend time (you don't have) finding alternatives.

So you stay put. Not because you're happy. Because you're trapped. This is going to bite Apple.

 

[ipedro]

I like your analysis, but you underestimate Amazon, by far.

There’s Amazon, there’s Facebook, there’s HBO, CBS... the list goes on. I didn’t mention them all but the point is that Apple doesn’t need to buy Netflix to build an online TV network since they own the final experience where people “watch TV”, they’re experts at online distribution and they have a virtually unlimited budget to buy and produce content.

 

[Glideslope]

Pathetic. Apple is abandoning their core products and really losing the essence of what it is.

Apple lost it's Core Essence in two phases. First, the change from Apple Computer to Apple Inc. This signaled the start of the 'Gadget Era." Second, the passing of SJ released the flood gates of " every release is a beta." The QC at todays Apple is sub par at best. Margins are paramount not quality, reliability, or innovation. I'm trying to be positive and take iOS 12 as a sign of a future road map for expectations. Mac OS is slowly being genetically mutated for the eventual merging and creation of Apple OS. Sorry, I don't buy one word from Hair Force One when he states it's not happening.

So, I'm not so sure I would use the word abandon as perhaps, recklessly assuming they know more about what the base wants than the base? If the new strategy toward increasing iOS market share with the "low priced" 6.1" LCD is not ginormously successful, trouble will be closer.

 

[Aldo Ferrel]

How about teaming up with famous scientist and engineers to make new products?

 

[Jimmy James]

This is where they spent their billion dollars. Sigh.

 

[normanfox]

sigh... just canceled Netflix because I don't want to fund Netflix politics with Obama deal. Now Apple...

 

[Rogifan]

Pathetic. Apple is abandoning their core products and really losing the essence of what it is.

What was/is the essence of Apple? I remember when people went nuts because Apple created the iPod. No way in heck Apple would be where it is today if it was just a niche company making desktop and laptop computers.

 

[Baymowe335]

You're assuming all Mac users are happy. You're also assuming that the "right and good" thing always happens. It doesn't.

If you're a long-time mac user, you can't just walk away and give up your investment in Mac hardware, software, and workflows. It would be a painful and costly transition. Stuff you need in your everyday work would break and you'd have to spend time (you don't have) finding alternatives.

So you stay put. Not because you're happy. Because you're trapped. This is going to bite Apple.

Im assuming most are happy because if it were a big issue, Apple would address it. It’s that simple.

 

[jjjoseph]

Oprah is not for sale, but she’ll take half a billion to pitch her ideas. I wish I could get 500mil to pitch a few shows.. ok you got me, ide take 50bucks.

 

[Abazigal]

How about teaming up with famous scientist and engineers to make new products?

You do realise that this is the exact opposite of how Apple works, right? Their product design is determined by designers, not engineers. Coding control back to the latter would be a recipe for disaster.