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Apple Teases 'Black Friday' Sale in Online and Retail Stores

"what time do you think online sale will start? will it be midnight or 8 AM?"

I may be wrong, but I believe I remember from prior years that it begins at midnight, but that's midnight Pacific time, which is 3 a.m. for us on the east coast.
 
I'm thinking of getting an iPod Touch 32gb. Does anyone know if at the retail stores in the uk, it will be possible to trade in an old iPod and get an additional 10% off on top of the Blck Friday discount?
 
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