ICU bed capacity in Riverside county and SoCal at 0% - I clearly get that you the to read this in the media, but this is the department of public health:
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The king of Sweden said this week their response has failed. Yet people still like to talk about them as some great example of how it’s done.
lockdowns and masks do work it’s very simple they work. They’re not a cure though I don’t think anybody has claimed them to be a cure.
LMAO you're either kidding or you're deep in your utopia and haven't realized that NY is just as much or even far more of a mess than most of the other states.
Meanwhile in Wuhan…
All it took was actually welding people inside their houses.
Well that’s weird because they have the third lowest positivity rate in the country.
and the Swedish government is changing course, no lockdown yet but restrictions in restaurants etc, and, they are now recommending, not enforcing, masks in public transformation.
Link below from a German news outlet as many people here don't trust the "leftish, fake news" American outlets.
Corona-Pandemie: Schweden verkündet strengere Regeln
Im Kampf gegen die Corona-Pandemie wurde lange vom schwedischen Sonderweg gesprochen. Nun verschärft Stockholm die Maßnahmen – und empfiehlt erstmals das Tragen von Masken in öffentlichen Verkehrsmitteln.
Yes, but is it talking about new daily cases per 100k or total cases per 100k? Because now, California is averaging 103 new daily cases per 100k, New York is averaging 54 new daily cases per 100k. New York was ambushed in the beginning, remember that. I like to look at how states are doing now.
Link to CA government dashboard:
1.8M+ total cases, 43k+ just yesterday
COVID-19 Home
Thanks. So 4x the number of new daily cases as New York despite having twice the population, and a twice as high positivity rate. Not to make it a competition, but I'm responding to someone else saying New York is in worse shape than CA, which isn't true.Link to CA government dashboard:
1.8M+ total cases, 43k+ just yesterday
COVID-19 Home
covid19.ca.gov
looks that NY state is not providing as much data as CA on their dashboard ...
COVID-19
Sweden has big problems right now as Covid is spreading like wildfire and the country is on the verge of a lockdown, even the Swedish king came out last week to complain about the policy of herd immunity, which clearly does not work and the Prime Minister is even apologising. I have a lot of Swedish friends and many are really worried there right now. Here in Norway where the authorities after a slow start took things very seriously we have had to date a total of 404 deaths. That is 404 too many. In Sweden next door, it is over 8000 and the Swedish population is about 4 million more than Norway.
But what is ALSO true is that you haven't proved that NY is the 3rd lowest in cases. Also I never stated that NY was worse than California. Please go back and re-read my post.
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Cox was better but not by much. Have not seen a decent California Guv in a while.
You're over-exaggerating things. A lock down or stay-at-home order doesn't mean lock yourself up, put your life on hold, don't go outside, and crawl into bed and hide under a blanket.I go out for a walk or run every single day, sometimes 2x a day. I go to the market for groceries once a week. I go to Costco every 2 or 3 week for bulk supplies. I was just inside a Target store yesterday to pick up an online order (Christmas present). I walk down to Panera to get my free coffee 2x-3x a week. I even helped my friend move into a new apartment a month ago.
No, my life is not on hold and I am not living in fear. For the most part I'm still living life like before. The only difference now is I'm not doing unnecessary things like going out to bars or the gym (places known to easily spread the virus), and I'm following basic health safety practices (i.e. wearing a mask and social distancing).
We've never had a true lock down. A real lock down would be what China did.
Americans would never be able to handle a true lock down.
Just because your friends are RN's doesn't mean they know everything or fully understand what's happening.
There have been numerous doctors who said hydroxychloroquine was a proven cure for Covid-19 (and 🤣 at demon sperm)
Report: Texas doctor who went viral with unproven COVID-19 cure believes in 'demon sperm'
AUSTIN, Texas (CBS Austin) - The Houston doctor who was part of a controversial viral video touting hydroxychloroquine as a "cure" for COVID-19 has said certain gynecological issues are caused by sexual encounters with demons in dreams, along with other dubious medical claims. The Daily Beast...
local12.com
and some doctors still insist coronavirus is no more dangerous than the seasonal flu
Doctors falsely claim coronavirus no worse than the flu
CLAIM: The coronavirus is no worse than the flu and the pandemic is a hoax. AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. A group of health professionals who call themselves the World Doctors Alliance make multiple false claims in a video being shared online, many of which have been debunked by experts working to...
or a hoax
Did Dr. Roger Hodkinson Call COVID-19 a Hoax?
Whoever that person on the viral call may be, you should know Canadian medical organizations have released statements refuting his comments.
www.snopes.com
I never said third lowest in cases, I said third lowest positivity rate. As in the percent of all tests that show up positive, which is the best indicator of how uncontrolled the spread is.
You can check each state’s up to date info on John’s Hopkins-
Daily Testing Trends in the US - Johns Hopkins
See daily changes in tests performed and positivity rates in the US
coronavirus.jhu.edu
Let's all be honest with ourselves.
Hospitals are slammed every FLU season (see below).
Anybody that has been to Apple lately knows how strict they are. Capacity is limited, clerks stand behind a table and masks are enforced. Closing just means they don't even believe these measures work.
Aside from that, essentially nobody is getting sick from Apple store. Even restaurants are not high risk places where spread occurs, this was concurred by a CA judge that mandated the government allow all San Diego restaurants to open. The vast majority of spread occurs at home, and nobody is wearing masks at home.
This is an anecdote but every person that I know that has been sick recently has been from FLU and not COVID.
Hospitals are slammed every FLU season (see below).
Anybody that has been to Apple lately knows how strict they are. Capacity is limited, clerks stand behind a table and masks are enforced. Closing just means they don't even believe these measures work.
Aside from that, essentially nobody is getting sick from Apple store. Even restaurants are not high risk places where spread occurs, this was concurred by a CA judge that mandated the government allow all San Diego restaurants to open. The vast majority of spread occurs at home, and nobody is wearing masks at home.
This is an anecdote but every person that I know that has been sick recently has been from FLU and not COVID.
I was dubious of that claim, and looked it up:
Excess Deaths Associated with COVID-19
Excess Deaths Associated with COVID-19, by Age and ...
This report describes the estimated excess deaths reported in the United States from late January through October 3, 2020, with 66% excess deaths attributed to COVID-19.
www.cdc.gov
Average number per day in 2017
QuickStats: Average Daily Number of Deaths, by Month — United States,
In 2017, an average of 7,708 deaths occurred each day. January, February, and December were the months with the highest average daily number of deaths (8,478, 8,351, and 8,344, respectively).
www.cdc.gov
He's right about 250k per month in the US historically. Covid death is about an additional 20k per months so far, about 7-8% of the 2020 annual death, if I calculated that right.
I was dubious of that claim, and looked it up:
Excess Deaths Associated with COVID-19
Excess Deaths Associated with COVID-19, by Age and ...
This report describes the estimated excess deaths reported in the United States from late January through October 3, 2020, with 66% excess deaths attributed to COVID-19.
Average number per day in 2017
QuickStats: Average Daily Number of Deaths, by Month — United States,
In 2017, an average of 7,708 deaths occurred each day. January, February, and December were the months with the highest average daily number of deaths (8,478, 8,351, and 8,344, respectively).
He's right about 250k per month in the US historically. Covid death is about an additional 20k per months so far, about 7-8% of the 2020 annual death, if I calculated that right.
Sharing more homework, as the numbers continue to astound...
I couldn't care less about what happens to people based on the decisions they make. What angers me is when people needlessly put others at risk of harm because they feel entitled. Ignorance kills.
The phrase is "Live free or die", not "Live free and kill those around you". The doctrine of personal responsibility does not mean "every man for himself", it means taking responsibility for ones actions and the impact of those actions on oneself and one's community.
So your argument is that there's a global media conspiracy manufacturing news and only the most passionate American "conservatives" can see see through the ruse? This is all a ploy by the liberal media to scare only liberals into making decisions detrimental to their livelihoods?
This seems like a major violation of Occam's Razor, no?
I think you're confusing "responsible" with "scared". I find this happens with people who lack a sense of personal responsibility-- they only thing they care about is their own survival so the only reason they wouldn't do something is if they feel it puts them in danger. I'm certainly not scared. I'm not in a high risk group, it's not likely that I'll be personally affected. I just happen to cross paths with people who may be more vulnerable, and I owe them the courtesy of not endangering them and those they cross paths with.
It's the same logic behind not letting people drink and drive. It's not really about protecting the driver from their own idiocy. Whisky isn't known for inducing cowardice, so getting liquored up and taking the wheel isn't an act of bravery that us common folks can't muster. Banning drunk driving is about protecting others from the irresponsible behavior of the few.
True, NY and NJ got their rates lower at one point, but it took shutting down the economy 3 additional months, and after all that, their daily Covid numbers are now basically in line with Georgia’s so what exactly did they accomplish other than putting more people out of work, more businesses out of business, and driving up their debt?
As of today, GA has 10k deaths. NY, with double the population currently has 35K deaths. NJ, with about 10% less population has 18k deaths. I don’t see how Georgia got hit much harder. I’d check your data sources again.