You say if Apple allows multiple stores, Facebook will get it own store. Well, Android allows multiple stores and Facebook doesn't have a store.
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You say if Apple allows multiple stores, Facebook will get it own store. Well, Android allows multiple stores and Facebook doesn't have a store.
I think tvOS can make that happen. For example, it can require an application to define a search API and refuse to run it if not provided.
It was just an example, perhaps Facebook isn’t the best example although considering what Mark Z mentioned the other week and how they want to distribute their own games not that bad of an example.
You can put any company name there if you like. And likely some other new ones that may spring up. EPIC or their significant investor is definitely one of those 👍
It’s about as reasonable as being in a restaurant with a menu in front of you and turn to the waiter to say “I ask that you clearly inform me of everything that’s on your menu”. The App Store guidelines are out there. Compare what you’re doing to the guidelines that Apply to companies like Amazon. Do you meet those requirements? Wonderful! You’re good to take advantage of the same rules Amazon does.
'This isn't the 1990s': Apple under pressure from app developers
Facebook, Amazon and Google all have their problems, but Apple is losing friends fasterwww.theguardian.com
“I ask that you clearly define the conditions that Amazon satisfied for its arrangement so that DCN’s member companies meeting those conditions can be offered the same agreement,” Kint’s letter concluded.
Is this a reasonable request?
The matter here appears to be that they have looked at the rules, they know that their applications don’t fit the rules, so it’s a PR move to try to show the rules as being unclear.
If companies spent more effort trying to come up with better products and services to BEAT Apple, we’d be seeing some real innovation. Apparently, the entire mobile development industry has decided that Apple can’t be beat with products and services, so they just want a way to ride Apple’s success for free.
Well that is blatantly false.
Can I run PlayStation games on Windows 10?
Can you show me where developers of MacOS are pulling similar stunts their apps don’t work on Windows?
Can I run windows executables on android?
Can I play Xbox games on a Nintendo Switch?
An Operating System is designed to run whatever software the creator intends it to. The market leaders in operating systems (Microsoft and Android) let you run pretty much anything and that is what has made them so big. That however does not mean you are entitled to that from everyone. Nearly every other tech device from MP3 players, kindles, smart TVs, games consoles etc runs their own operating systems as the designer intended. Many steps are taken to protect these from being abused.
Edit: It’s also worth mentioning that Windows and Android are the products in themselves. They are the entire product. Their purpose is for hardware manufacturers to use them to allow a wide range of companies to release devices and systems without having to create hundreds of different operating systems from scratch. This is why they’re so open.
Apple’s iOS on the other hand isnt a standalone product. The IPHONE IS THE PRODUCT. The hardware and software is a combination that creates a whole system. Apple has every right to create their product however they want. Then people can decide if they want to buy it or a competitor like android.
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Plenty of products do the very same.
Your washing machine has an OS and you could probably re-program the spinner to get it going 500rpm faster, but that functionally has been locked out.
Your car has the fuel/air ratio locked out so you can't go as fast because they wanted to prioritise efficiency.
Your Smart TV runs Android, but they locked out the ability to side load normal android apps so you will use whatever service they want you to use.
Your Huawei phone can't install google apps, despite android being a Google OS
Yet you buy all those products without a second thought.
If by giving the users that functionality it opens up the device to a multitude of security threats then it would affect the functionality of the phone negatively.
In turn alter the customers perception of those devices as previously secure it would then affect future sales.
Also by doing so, it also risks the legitimate sales of Apps from developers who do not rely on subscriptions, A downloading pirated copies (something that is rampant on Android) would be far easier.
In a perfect world extra functionality might be perceived as better, but not the world we currently reside in.
If YOU want that extra functionally - Jailbreak YOUR device by all means, but I do not see why its something that should be allowed whatsoever, and even then without jumping though a multitude of hoops.
You want to leave your backdoor open at night, have at it - some of us have the sense to lock it up tight.
Again nobody's asking you to use anything other than App Store. You can lock the backdoor if you want. But don't block it simply because you don't like it or you don't use it.
That sums up nothing.
Google makes its money in other ways on android and the web (like by aggregating and selling information about what you do).
Are we not allowed to have companies that have different business models, where we pay for things with money and in exchange get to keep our privacy?
1. You washing machine has a circuit board, not an OS. You don't understand what an OS is.
2. Not Huawei's fault you can't install Google. (Google doesn't come preinstalled. You can still install it if you want.)
Give me one example of an actual OS (Android, macOS, any Linux or BSD flavors, Windows).
Apple charging premium for nothing "sums up nothing".
Most of Google's avenue comes from search engine ads, not selling your data.
Apple makes tons of money selling iPhone, much more than whatever Google has ever made, and yet you still beg Apple to charge more.
It's not mine to block or not block or even manage. If one doesn't like the policies they are more than welcome to create their own infrastructure and distribution network. But don't come in to "my turf" and tell me how to run my shop.
There is nothing forcing you to use my infrastructure.
“Most.”
And you do realize the ads are targeted - which means that google knows enough about you to target you. And since the ad buyer knows what categories it targeted, if you interact with the ad buyer in response to the ad, they know about you too.
I value privacy. You may not.
That’s why competition demands that Apple be permitted to offer a product that I prefer, and Google is free to offer its products to those with different priorities.
Xbox
Playstation
NES
All have app stores as well, you cannot install whatever you want on them.
Autonomous Car OS's are Locked out.
Windows 10S has is also locked to their App Store unless you pay for Full blown Windows.
Precisely, it's more like buying a house in a nice gated, secure subdivision. You own your own house, but you must pay your yearly dues and can only use one particular contractor to make certain allowed modifications. e.g. you can't add a second floor, park your RV in the front yard etc.
You bought this house and lot and signed off on those restrictions prior to purchasing because you felt the trade off between a nice community and free for all was worth it.
You are perfectly free to move to a neighbourhood with far less restrictions on what you can, and cannot do to your own house.
Really? Can you explain how the anti-trust action against Apple that handed 90% of the eBooks market to Amazon was of benefit to "powerless consumers"?
And... how do you think google ads are so good for advertisers? Because your privacy is what google sells.
Apple makes a lot of money, everybody knows that, but they sell goods and services, not our data.
And if someone values more his privacy, he might be willing to pay more for that.
One of the benefits of the App Store is the restrictions that Apple puts on apps it allows to be sold. As a consumer I benefit from those restrictions. Right now, apps have no choice if they want to be in the App Store. Where the world you want to come to pass (a situation where every one can install anything from anywhere, many apps that now live with those restrictions would move to an store or installation method that that did not have them.
That would harm me.
In addition, I like that I only have one source for all apps, one place to go to do upgrades, restoring my device is simple and fast because of that.
Your argument seems to be that no company would be in another App Store, so I would not have to deal with it, but my life would be better if developers had choice.
I agree that my life would be different, and somethings might be better for some people, but most things would be worse for me and those who share my views.
No, but piracy is a serious problem on Android because of side loading, and it is not on iOS. Again, this benefits me as a consumer. I am glad there is another platform that offers substantially the same functionality as iOS, but with different choices around privacy, tracking, permissions, etc.
More than enough competition in the market without needing to destroy iOS/iPadOS/tvOS/WatchOS to "increase" it.
Most perfect example ever !!😂
If there are 10 stores and all have only one app each that I want. As a customer I now need to handover my credit card details to 10 different companies rather than one.
How does that benefit me, the consumer ?
More fun!
Russian lawmaker tries to curb mobile app payouts for Apple and Google - Reuters 9/1/20
MOSCOW (Reuters) - A Russian lawmaker submitted draft legislation on Tuesday that would cut and cap the commission on the sale of mobile applications by tech giants Apple and Google.
The bill, submitted to Russia’s lower house of parliament by lawmaker Fedot Tumusov, stipulates that commissions on the sale of applications be capped at 20%. Apple currently collects a 30% commission on sales in its App Store.
The bill, if adopted, would also oblige app sellers to pay a third of their commissions to a special training fund for IT specialists on a quarterly basis.
“Lowering the commission and having the ability to bring products to users is a growth opportunity for IT developers,” Tumusov wrote on social media.
The news comes as app makers, including Epic Games, have challenged Apple’s and Google’s right to take a large commission on their sales.
Last week a U.S. federal judge blocked Apple Inc from shutting down an Epic Games tool that is relied upon by hundreds of other app makers but had become the subject of an antitrust battle between the companies.
Russian lawmaker tries to curb mobile app payouts for Apple and Google - Reuters 9/1/20
MOSCOW (Reuters) - A Russian lawmaker submitted draft legislation on Tuesday that would cut and cap the commission on the sale of mobile applications by tech giants Apple and Google.
The bill, submitted to Russia’s lower house of parliament by lawmaker Fedot Tumusov, stipulates that commissions on the sale of applications be capped at 20%. Apple currently collects a 30% commission on sales in its App Store.
The bill, if adopted, would also oblige app sellers to pay a third of their commissions to a special training fund for IT specialists on a quarterly basis.
“Lowering the commission and having the ability to bring products to users is a growth opportunity for IT developers,” Tumusov wrote on social media.
The news comes as app makers, including Epic Games, have challenged Apple’s and Google’s right to take a large commission on their sales.
Last week a U.S. federal judge blocked Apple Inc from shutting down an Epic Games tool that is relied upon by hundreds of other app makers but had become the subject of an antitrust battle between the companies.
Apple doesn’t even need good lawyers. They can just buy their way at this point.
"Some modern and recent (when I write the answer) washing machines have operating systems as advanced and flexible as Tizen (based on Linux)." So point 1 dies a twitching death
