Has anyone from Apple commented on the short support time of some Intel Macs? That is IMHO more critical.
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Apple Tested Stage Manager on iPads Without M1 Chip and Wasn't Satisfied
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Wait, so complaining about past user experiences that didn’t work perfectly is supposed to make them want to release a new user experience that they don’t feel works perfectly? Why, so they can receive more complaints about it? Your comment basically confirms for them that they made the right decision.
For me that's really the baseline. I'm admittedly not a developer and my computing needs are -- both professionally and on my private device -- rather limited. I'm pretty sure I could live with an iPad-like device if the operating system was a bit more like MacOS.
Whether it's the SoC, the RAM, the flash storage, poor system design or aggressive business decisions, the fact is that Apple is drip-feeding very basic features that were standard on computers 20-30 years ago.
Unless you have a very specific use case, the iPad (Pro) just seems like a very bad investment to me. If my battery hadn't swollen to the point of no return, I'd still happily use my rMBP from late 2013. Even without the latest operating system it still very much did everything anyone could expect from a personal computing device including running apps in multiple windows. An iPod Pro from two years ago now is so outdated it can't display multiple windows. It's ridiculous.
The iPad Pro with a keyboard etc is ridiculously expensive and you still don't get the promise of your device growing with developments for at least a while. I'm sticking with the Mac.
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They were not satisfied because this would not push people to buy the latest product. Nothing but greed made then restrict the gesture to M1. Had it been a performance problem they could have simply reduced the number of apps that can be open at once.
I have an M1 iPad and I am still waiting for something that uses its power. This feature is definitely no that, and the fact it’s restricted to M1 is just marketing, there is no technical reason why it should be.
Nope, that's the worst thing they could do. They NEED to start rolling out new features and growing the platform to hardware that is capable of running them as soon as possible. That's the very definition of INNOVATION. If Apple always waits that's the recipe for a product becoming stagnant and developers and consumers becoming weary of them.
Innovation happens when a company decides to forge forward and ignores views like yours.
Apple can’t fix the problem because under the hood iPadOS is iOS base.
Microsoft would love to make windows like MacOS or iPadOS but they can’t because of windows NT and code going back to the 90s and because of businesses.
You can’t even do this on MacOS.
People use to windows and Linux work flow and way will be very different at doing things.
Apple wants user friendly and stable OS than freedom or power user way.
That us go back to windows 95 and Windows 98 days because of the swamp file and no limits on running apps the user not buying enough RAM for the task would be very slow computer and crashes.
This is what is confusing the boomers not use to app refresh and killing the apps and app limits because Apple does not want a Windows or Linux experience of crashes or slow computer because the person not having enough RAM and CPU.
And Apple will dumb down the file manager to make it more friendly. Microsoft does not care if you mess with the registry and brake your system well Apple does.
Well downloading themes and install things and change things like in the three videos above Apple does not want to support OS bloat to support system like Windows and Linux and wants to make sure malware does not get on the computer.
It is called the dumbing down effect that 90% of the users are the Mom,Dad, kids and grandma and can hardly use a computer so that make it super friendly and safe to point you hands are tied. Apple been running with this philosophy for years and years way before iOS and iPadOS.
What has changed is iPadOS was not build for a PC or Mac replacement at the start and Apple is adding more pro features every year with under the hood iOS framework holding it back. But at the start that was not Apple philosophy at all.
Windows NT, Unix and Linux go back to 90s with idea of client and server model and many user accounts well Android and iOS is mobile operating system with one user not built on a client and server model and many user accounts.
You not going to have marketing team of business ABC using Android or iPadOS with lock down account well the system admin logs in his or her account and change user profile permissions and add and remove users and set file permissions. And upload files to server and run back up scrips to back up drives. Yes iPadOS will never be using in business that need that control and running full Microsoft office and full Photoshop.
So no Apple will not take the iPad serious because they not trying to gain businesses shares in businesses world.
And even in year or two if Apple does take the iPad very serious I don’t think they can with iPadOS being build on iOS with out making new OS from the ground up.
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Because other devices don't require instant responsiveness of an iPad. They explained that. My iPad Pro will stutter once in a blue moon - and when it does, it's incredibly jarring because it's a touch device. On a Mac, even when the beachball appears, I still move my cursor, it doesn't feel like everything froze. There's no cursor on an iPad and you touch it, manipulate things directly and move things around at 60 or even 120 fps - stuttering of the interface would be a very bad experience. Of course, it happening from time to time, rarely - that's ok. But, having this happen every time when you use multi-window multitasking - that would really be a bad experience. And it's no secret that the big reason why iPhones and iPads are so snappy is because they hold everything in RAM. Macs (and their way of working) reached that level of responsiveness (like instant wake) only with the M1.
Now, again, you don't have to agree with Apple here - but don't compare apples to oranges.
Great idea, cripple the UI and maybe some features for newer more capable ones just so old devices can support it, thinking like that just holds everything back. People complain about new iOS versions being laggy and slow on old iPhones, if they brought it to the old devices they would just complain as usual. Damned if you do, damned if you don't, Apple can't win.
You can't support old devices forever, stage manager never existed when the old iPads were new so they never bought it for that, nor were they promised as brand new features a few years down the line. You want new features?, then buy the new hardware.
Ipad pro 3rd Gen had faster flash than M1 air. They all are fast. Apple says not fast enough is excuse.
6gb ram is enough for any retail OS
And yet the perpetual stream of excuses and explanations pours from Apple’s public relations network. It’s comical how many “accounts” continuously spew Apple garbage reasoning to “justify” Apple’s position or “critique” any who dissent. This whole “here’s why you can’t have X” stream of consciousness wreaks of “trying too hard”.
And I’m done with “air quotes”. LOL
Using a computer doesn't make you a software (or hardware) engineer. Driving for 30 years doesn't mean you can build a car better than, say, Toyota.
They obsoleted some very expensive 2020 products in 2022. And now the spinning and fake excuses when the blowback was more intense than they expected. This is why you don't get emotionally invested in one of the world's wealthiest corporations. They got rich for a reason, and it wasn't by being nice.
iPad Pro 3rd Gen doesn't have the M1 SSD controller and its chip doesn't support paged memory management. And it's just one test. Also, you can't possibly know if 6Gb is enough or not for what Apple had in mind.
Finally, there is no financial reason for Apple to withold this feature from older iPads (even though people here think this is the case). This is the biggest one for me: why would they do this? The short-term profit gains from upgrades would be basically nothing, the profit would actually be bigger if they made more iPads competitive and having this feature on as many iPads as possible would certainly be beneficial to their long-term iPad strategy. The only logical explanation not to do it is the one they gave: they didn't like how it worked on older iPads.
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What 2020 products have they obsoleted in 2022? I don't see a single one.
I'm not emotionally invested, but the explanation they gave for withholding this feature from non-M1 iPads seems reasonable to me.
I don’t know it. How do you?
And no, the Mac Dev Kit is not proof, for reasons that have been explained multiple times.
So, I ask you: how do you know A12 can run it with enough responsiveness?
Which 2020 products were obsoleted? I get that we needn’t get emotionally invested in Apple, but they clearly didn’t get rich by not being nice. That’s just false. They got rich by having a suite of excellent products.
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PS. The youngest obsolete iPad is 2012 iPad (4th generation)
It had 2.5x the RAM, it had a faster SSD, it didn’t run at 120hz, the responsiveness requirements were nowhere near as high as on a touch-based device, also it was a developer device with different experience expectations that was sent to developers - not end users and reviewers - and we don’t really know how well it worked with lots of memory-intensive apps open.
That’s just some of the reasons, there could be others.
I made comment before that I was reminded of lesser systems of yesteryear that was able to do things of a similar nature including OS/2. I find this a bit curious as to why there is such a challenge and, the amount of memory they are talking about makes me personally wonder if the programming went in a direction that is overly resource-hungry. All very curious.
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6gb ram is enough for any model OS